Facebook IPO
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i heard that General Motors have already pulled all advertsing from FB
Advertising on the internet is a funny old game, I always find it ironic that click thru sites and aggregators, who's message to their customers (the ultimate service or product supplier) is the power of the internet, resort to advertising themselves on good old fashioned TV or Radio or Billboards
Advertising on the internet is a funny old game, I always find it ironic that click thru sites and aggregators, who's message to their customers (the ultimate service or product supplier) is the power of the internet, resort to advertising themselves on good old fashioned TV or Radio or Billboards
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All figures quoting growth miss the fact that the main growth comes from new regions/ groups joining. The original users are maturing and already beginning to migrate away, but their exits are hidden by new sign ups. Once growth flattens off completely , which it will, then their model is based on getting 10X the current revenues from a plateaued user base - cue lots of ads, etc, cue lots of people leaving saying " they've sold out, man"
Well timed from the man himself - already peaked in my view
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I assume you mean Google from 5 or 10 years ago. The difference back then with Adwords, for example, was that people using Google were and are actively searching for something, thus ads based on the searched keywords are extremely relevant for them, people on Facebook aren't looking to buy anything, it is a passive service.
Facebook's valuation wasn't based on their current revenue. It was based on potential revenue, but if they ever properly use the information they have data-mined from the users, then that will just wreck the public's relationship with the company.
It is already the next Myspace imo, like anyone with an internet connection, i had an account and couldn't believe how much spam and advertising i was getting and that was well over a year ago, it can only get worse.
The next big thing in mass social networking, Social http://www.so.cl
For everyone else, watch FB bomb in real time
Facebook's valuation wasn't based on their current revenue. It was based on potential revenue, but if they ever properly use the information they have data-mined from the users, then that will just wreck the public's relationship with the company.
It is already the next Myspace imo, like anyone with an internet connection, i had an account and couldn't believe how much spam and advertising i was getting and that was well over a year ago, it can only get worse.
The next big thing in mass social networking, Social http://www.so.cl
For everyone else, watch FB bomb in real time
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I assume you mean Google from 5 or 10 years ago. The difference back then with Adwords, for example, was that people using Google were and are actively searching for something, thus ads based on the searched keywords are extremely relevant for them, people on
Facebook aren't looking to buy anything, it is a passive service.
The next big thing in mass social networking, Social http://www.so.cl
Facebook aren't looking to buy anything, it is a passive service.
The next big thing in mass social networking, Social http://www.so.cl
Love your Next Big Thing... Sign in with Facebook LOL
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It appears Zuckerberg sold 30 million shares at the IPO, so at $38 each that would have given him $1.14bn. He doesn't really need to worry about money anymore, even if the shares go to zero which is unlikely.
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I would have done the same I think. You never know what might happen, so if it went belly up at least you'd walk away with 'never have to work again' money.
He has over 500 million shares, so selling 30m of them isn't a big thing.
He has over 500 million shares, so selling 30m of them isn't a big thing.
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People search Google when they want to buy something. You don't think to yourself "I need to buy x. I'll search facebook".
Facebook may have a large reach, but if they are purely fans and not buyers parting with cash, those fans are worthless.
Facebook may have a large reach, but if they are purely fans and not buyers parting with cash, those fans are worthless.
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Yep, he is still the major shareholder and still has a controlling interest in FB. He sold a small proportion of his shares but doesn't mean he has bailed out, he is still in control and FB is still generating revenue and more importantly, profit. Still overvalued, I reckon it will dip and finish this week in to the high twenties. If you have shares, I'd hold, you haven't lost anything unless you sell now.
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Down another 10% today, why anybody would think this is a good investment at $30+ I've no idea, this'll be $10 shortly.
Down another 10% today, why anybody would think this is a good investment at $30+ I've no idea, this'll be $10 shortly.
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Alot of the drop is attributable to the NASDAQ f**k up. Traders went for over 2 hours not knowing if they had bought/sold and at what price. The consequence is that NASDAQ sent out a form asking for how many you thought you had sold/bought what price you thought you had and then confirmed against the actual amount you had confirmed bought/sold and the actual price. Therefore if you thought you sold and you hadn't sold you were forced to sell as the form had to be submitted by noon and couldn't be submitted if it wasn't fully completed.....either which way it was overpriced IMO
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Hi Alloy, what makes you think that? It's a very difficult business to price because it's not really heading where other businesses have gone before. You may as well make up a number and I think that is what many Analyst do despite their (pseudo) scientific valuation methods.
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I use Ad-Block+ as an add on in my browser . So that totally ***** FB
http://adblockplus.org/en/chrome
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Hi Alloy, what makes you think that? It's a very difficult business to price because it's not really heading where other businesses have gone before. You may as well make up a number and I think that is what many Analyst do despite their (pseudo) scientific valuation methods.