Facebook IPO
18 May 2012, 05:53 PM
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do you think the advertising, the money grabbing scheme for increasing the importance of your posts etc etc will drive customers away? do facebook do any sort of click through revenue? I don't know as I don't use FB in any shape or form but a Billion potential customers is going to be a big lure for a lot of advertisers
18 May 2012, 06:14 PM
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Google had a unique search algorithm.
It was an actual product over and above the user base. Facebook's product is the user base, it is why you join, you join the community. You never used google to search stuff just because other people were using it per se. Facebook just host the user base or community. The weakness is that it doesn't actually directly control the user base who are free to leave.
It was an actual product over and above the user base. Facebook's product is the user base, it is why you join, you join the community. You never used google to search stuff just because other people were using it per se. Facebook just host the user base or community. The weakness is that it doesn't actually directly control the user base who are free to leave.
18 May 2012, 06:16 PM
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19 May 2012, 10:06 AM
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Google had a unique search algorithm.
It was an actual product over and above the user base. Facebook's product is the user base, it is why you join, you join the community. You never used google to search stuff just because other people were using it per se. Facebook just host the user base or community. The weakness is that it doesn't actually directly control the user base who are free to leave.
It was an actual product over and above the user base. Facebook's product is the user base, it is why you join, you join the community. You never used google to search stuff just because other people were using it per se. Facebook just host the user base or community. The weakness is that it doesn't actually directly control the user base who are free to leave.
19 May 2012, 10:08 AM
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Follow quite a few forest fans so I can keep tabs on rumours and happenings.
Some apple developers*
I find it more as a news feed than anything else.
19 May 2012, 05:00 PM
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I'm not so sure to be honest, it's opening day hardly set the world alight, +0.61% and only because the bank supporting the IPO stepped in to buy $300m of shares, that doesn't bode well and it's opening day failed to live up to the hype. Bandwagon mentality drove the initial surge before falling back before closing. It's easy to get caught up in the frenzy, but when you look at the figures Facebook is massively overvalued, worth $104bn when revenue was £3.7bn and a $1bn profit??!! I would say Facebooks growth forecast is overly optimistic, Facebook membership has nearly peaked and is now pretty much saturated.
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IMO of course.
19 May 2012, 05:28 PM
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I was hoping to sell on Monday for a modest profit, but still don't know if I purchased or not! Things didn't exactly go smoothly. I think Monday will be interesting.
19 May 2012, 07:43 PM
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19 May 2012, 07:49 PM
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Now that Facebook has floated and it's founders raking in the millions from the IPO, will the likes of Occupy etc and anti-capitalists stop using the site in protest?
21 May 2012, 01:00 AM
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Only people who will profit from FB are those who were already in.
It's a way for them to cash out on the back of those buying in right now.
There has been a 30% drop in American advertising on FB in the past three months. There has been a 28% drop in European advertising in the past three months. There has been a global Twitter increase in advertising of 32% in the past three months. (all figures to 15th May).
Go figure.
Anybody daft enough to be buying into FB now are just that, daft.
It's a way for them to cash out on the back of those buying in right now.
There has been a 30% drop in American advertising on FB in the past three months. There has been a 28% drop in European advertising in the past three months. There has been a global Twitter increase in advertising of 32% in the past three months. (all figures to 15th May).
Go figure.
Anybody daft enough to be buying into FB now are just that, daft.
21 May 2012, 09:32 AM
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Cr@p stock, at $38 its on PE ratio of 107, doubts over its advertising revenues, $15bn privacy lawsuit.....the float was a flop, an IPO should be done at a 20% discount to correct theoretical pricing, Morgan Stanley were buying trying to show support at listing price, never bodes well.....might be worth a visit when its in the 20s.....
21 May 2012, 10:15 AM
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Cr@p stock, at $38 its on PE ratio of 107, doubts over its advertising revenues, $15bn privacy lawsuit.....the float was a flop, an IPO should be done at a 20% discount to correct theoretical pricing, Morgan Stanley were buying trying to show support at listing price, never bodes well.....might be worth a visit when its in the 20s.....
21 May 2012, 10:22 AM
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a lot of retail probably jumping on board because they love FB but don't understand that while it has huge membership numbers its pretty hard to monetise that user base as it flies in the face of the company's "hacker" branding, most institutions got in pre-ipo...we had a slab at $33....people are stupid though so they dont mind losing money to say they own FB shares...
21 May 2012, 11:05 AM
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BBC breakfast said Facebook could be valued at $23bn - how? in what way? I don't pay to use Facebook and I've never bought anything as a result of using Facebook. I don't really understand how something that is free to use can be worth billions of dollars. I understand the advertising but internet adverts have always seemed like a waste of time to me.
21 May 2012, 12:23 PM
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NASDAQ opens 2.30pm (GMT) so will be watching with interest. I expect there will be a downward trend this week from here on in now that the frenzy has disapated, may even be a few panic sells!!
21 May 2012, 03:52 PM
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Personally not a fan of FB. Deleted my account. Not tempted at all to go back.
My worry was the data mining, the auto opt in to everything new, etc.
I don't agree that it failing will be seen for ages. One big data scare and it will be game over for FB.
Look at groupon, they were an advertising portal and they crashed rather badly.
My worry was the data mining, the auto opt in to everything new, etc.
I don't agree that it failing will be seen for ages. One big data scare and it will be game over for FB.
Look at groupon, they were an advertising portal and they crashed rather badly.
I would of hated to of bought in on the first day 
21 May 2012, 09:19 PM
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In regards Facebook, it is worthless stock,it is not a service, produces no physical goods and provides what it does for free relying on people to click their ads (half of them don't even do that) or by selling peoples personal information.
Stupid amount of accounts are duplicates or accounts for peoples pets anyway, they have even artificial inflated the user base by counting closed accounts.
How can Facebook be considered to be worth more than, for example, Ford, that notion is just moronic. Should Facebook go bankrupt, there will be nothing of intrinsic value left. Should Ford, go bankrupt, there will be billions of assets to liquidate
Investing in Facebook now is like investing in the yellow pages in the early 90's, the people in the know have already made the money.
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