Facebook IPO
01 February 2012, 10:00 AM
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Facebook IPO
I'm tempted but more than a little worried, social media doesn't have a great history on the markets and MySpace didn't take long to go down the pan.
Anyone else?
Anyone else?
01 February 2012, 10:05 AM
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Yep I reckon it could vanish as easily as it rose.
Its market is its product as far as I can tell. It's like an average bar where everyone goes because everyone else goes there..until they don't.
Still people said google was a bubble at one time.
Its market is its product as far as I can tell. It's like an average bar where everyone goes because everyone else goes there..until they don't.
Still people said google was a bubble at one time.
01 February 2012, 11:20 AM
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Given the amount of investment other companies are making in the Facebook platform to conduct a lot of their own marketing and advertising I think they'll stick around for a while. How many times do you see a TV advert with a Facebook URL at the end of it, or a newspaper ad. Companies are betting big on it.
Even if a new competitor appeared tomorrow, it would take a bit of time before the rest of the business world up sticks and moved platform.
Even if a new competitor appeared tomorrow, it would take a bit of time before the rest of the business world up sticks and moved platform.
01 February 2012, 12:46 PM
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And if it did you'd be able to see it coming a mile off.
01 February 2012, 04:54 PM
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It'll get flooded with ads almost overnight and everyone will stop using it.
Did you know, in the UK, 1/3 of all divorce petitions now mention Facebook as a contributing factor?
Did you know, in the UK, 1/3 of all divorce petitions now mention Facebook as a contributing factor?
02 February 2012, 10:17 AM
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Smacks of the .com bubble to me.
Google just seems to have worked - luck IMO has something to do with it.
Bit like Sega Vs Nintendo. Sega offering wasn't bad it just didn't work or wasn't marketed as as good as Nintendo.
BBC breakfast said Facebook could be valued at $23bn - how? in what way? I don't pay to use Facebook and I've never bought anything as a result of using Facebook. I don't really understand how something that is free to use can be worth billions of dollars. I understand the advertising but internet adverts have always seemed like a waste of time to me.
Take ebay, you pay fees for buying and selling. There are adverts on the page - same as there are adverts when looking on SNet but I've never and will be unlikely to ever buy something as a result of an online advert on SNet, Ebay or Facebook.
Google just seems to have worked - luck IMO has something to do with it.
Bit like Sega Vs Nintendo. Sega offering wasn't bad it just didn't work or wasn't marketed as as good as Nintendo.
BBC breakfast said Facebook could be valued at $23bn - how? in what way? I don't pay to use Facebook and I've never bought anything as a result of using Facebook. I don't really understand how something that is free to use can be worth billions of dollars. I understand the advertising but internet adverts have always seemed like a waste of time to me.
Take ebay, you pay fees for buying and selling. There are adverts on the page - same as there are adverts when looking on SNet but I've never and will be unlikely to ever buy something as a result of an online advert on SNet, Ebay or Facebook.
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02 February 2012, 10:25 AM
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The value of the company is based on how much this powerful marketing tool can be sold for. That's the advantage.
As with all things though, this will have a finite life until the next big thing comes along. Some people will get rich, some will lose all their money and there will be a great gnashing of teeth when it all comes down.
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02 February 2012, 10:58 AM
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The bubble is going to burst just like it did with friends reunited and myspace. Bebo was another that has pretty much become extinct.
Twitter seems to be the new craze, people are deleting their FB accounts left right and centre, fed up of reading the drivel that is posted on there day in day out.
I think its a disastrous move for anyone to put money into it. Look at bebo, started in 2005 and bought by AOL for $850m in 2008. fast forward to April 2010 and AOL then sold it for less than $10m. In the UK, both bebo and Facebook were as popular as each other back in 2007/2008, bebo lost out, facebook gained.
Same thing is happening with FB/Twitter, Twitter has the celeb element, facebook is getting far too intrusive for some, bye bye facebook in the next 5yrs as people get bored easily and IMO facebook has had its day.
I still have my FB but I delete it for months on end and then eventually get nosey again, re-activate it, have it for a few weeks and then delete it again. I seem to be in a cycle of doing this and many of my friends are similar. If you install the unfriend add on, you will pretty much see on a daily basis friends deactivating their accounts and then pop up again a few months later.
Twitter seems to be the new craze, people are deleting their FB accounts left right and centre, fed up of reading the drivel that is posted on there day in day out.
I think its a disastrous move for anyone to put money into it. Look at bebo, started in 2005 and bought by AOL for $850m in 2008. fast forward to April 2010 and AOL then sold it for less than $10m. In the UK, both bebo and Facebook were as popular as each other back in 2007/2008, bebo lost out, facebook gained.
Same thing is happening with FB/Twitter, Twitter has the celeb element, facebook is getting far too intrusive for some, bye bye facebook in the next 5yrs as people get bored easily and IMO facebook has had its day.
I still have my FB but I delete it for months on end and then eventually get nosey again, re-activate it, have it for a few weeks and then delete it again. I seem to be in a cycle of doing this and many of my friends are similar. If you install the unfriend add on, you will pretty much see on a daily basis friends deactivating their accounts and then pop up again a few months later.
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02 February 2012, 11:46 AM
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From a marketing perspective it's incredibly powerful. With 800 million members, you can accurately target specific demographics: For example, males aged 20-30 in the London area with an interest in x,y and z.
The value of the company is based on how much this powerful marketing tool can be sold for. That's the advantage.
As with all things though, this will have a finite life until the next big thing comes along. Some people will get rich, some will lose all their money and there will be a great gnashing of teeth when it all comes down.
The value of the company is based on how much this powerful marketing tool can be sold for. That's the advantage.
As with all things though, this will have a finite life until the next big thing comes along. Some people will get rich, some will lose all their money and there will be a great gnashing of teeth when it all comes down.
Scoobynet holds the only real interest as far as I am concerned.
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02 February 2012, 11:47 AM
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Smacks of the .com bubble to me.
Google just seems to have worked - luck IMO has something to do with it.
Bit like Sega Vs Nintendo. Sega offering wasn't bad it just didn't work or wasn't marketed as as good as Nintendo.
BBC breakfast said Facebook could be valued at $23bn - how? in what way? I don't pay to use Facebook and I've never bought anything as a result of using Facebook. I don't really understand how something that is free to use can be worth billions of dollars. I understand the advertising but internet adverts have always seemed like a waste of time to me.
Take ebay, you pay fees for buying and selling. There are adverts on the page - same as there are adverts when looking on SNet but I've never and will be unlikely to ever buy something as a result of an online advert on SNet, Ebay or Facebook.
Google just seems to have worked - luck IMO has something to do with it.
Bit like Sega Vs Nintendo. Sega offering wasn't bad it just didn't work or wasn't marketed as as good as Nintendo.
BBC breakfast said Facebook could be valued at $23bn - how? in what way? I don't pay to use Facebook and I've never bought anything as a result of using Facebook. I don't really understand how something that is free to use can be worth billions of dollars. I understand the advertising but internet adverts have always seemed like a waste of time to me.
Take ebay, you pay fees for buying and selling. There are adverts on the page - same as there are adverts when looking on SNet but I've never and will be unlikely to ever buy something as a result of an online advert on SNet, Ebay or Facebook.
Massively overvalued, whatever the opening price of the oversubscribed share will be, watch it fall like a stone in the following weeks once the hype dies down.
03 February 2012, 03:07 PM
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Google would help you out, it's really easy to use, honest.
But to save you the effort: http://blog.divorce-online.co.uk/?p=2338
But to save you the effort: http://blog.divorce-online.co.uk/?p=2338
03 February 2012, 05:08 PM
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Apparently there was some guy who spray painted some murals in the early days. They paid him in a few stock - they were unheard of then.
The estimated value now is $200m!!!!!
The estimated value now is $200m!!!!!
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This ^^
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