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Old 27 October 2013, 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by RoyPinhey
Get it fired
If I can sort the alternator and find where to plug a few rogue pipes then hopefully that's what I will do.
Old 27 October 2013, 09:25 AM
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Bet your ****ting yourself
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I very much am, lol, thanks....
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What pipes? whats up with the alternator?

Make sure to prime it with no ignition leads out (crank it over to get the oil circulating without it firing for a while first
Old 27 October 2013, 09:39 AM
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Your welcome
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Originally Posted by JGlanzaV
What pipes? whats up with the alternator?

Make sure to prime it with no ignition leads out (crank it over to get the oil circulating without it firing for a while first
Just need to put the alternator back on. The pipes are vacuum pipes and one I'm a bit miffed by is a plug that goes into the inlet pipework. On the V4 (possibly others as well) is a chamber that comes from the drivers side wing into the engine bay then meets up with this...



As i've now got FMIC pipework running through the wing the "chamber" can't go back on and so this pipework, and thus the plug have nowhere to go. I'm just worried that plug gives the ECU information on air intake?

Oh and I know sod all about DV's, and have to work out how this now goes on the FMIC.

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Old 28 October 2013, 08:23 PM
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Oohhhh is she alive ????
Old 28 October 2013, 11:35 PM
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Just read all 18 pages mate. Cracking thread. I think that's you passed the worst of it now bud.
You gonna do a run in with mineral oil etc?
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Kwik, I have the same issue with that sensor, as im not running an fmic I can leave the ducting there but I want to take it all out
Old 29 October 2013, 07:19 PM
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C'mon alex is she alive then ?
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Old 29 October 2013, 10:43 PM
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Well done bud
You must be well happy, and even happier once it's run in
Any teething probs ?
Hope you put your crankshaft oil seal in properly
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Sounds like a biscuit tin with nuts and bolts inside.
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Old 30 October 2013, 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by savage bulldogs
Well done bud
You must be well happy, and even happier once it's run in
Any teething probs ?
Hope you put your crankshaft oil seal in properly
Funny you should say that.....
Just after that video was taken I looked underneath to find a puddle of fresh oil. It was getting dark so I couldn't see where from really and was resigned to the fact that I would probably have to take the engine back out. When I messed about with the clutch I didn't pay particular attention to where the seal was and although I'd taken 2 steps forward by starting it, I was going to take 1 step back in removing it again lol.
Anyways, after some investigation I found I hadn't put the clip down all the way on the crankcase breather .

As I said, two steps forward (As now I can run it for a while, I've found a water leak ).


Originally Posted by ditchmyster
Sounds like a biscuit tin with nuts and bolts inside.
Lol, that would be "The Beast" (my mrs' Scenic that's jumping mine). Can't fault the beast, it took me putting £20 of petrol in it last weekend

Anyways, no readings from the prosport gauges, power steering acting crazy and a water leak to keep me busy. But I did drive it 10ft yesterday
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Originally Posted by Kwik
Funny you should say that.....
Just after that video was taken I looked underneath to find a puddle of fresh oil. It was getting dark so I couldn't see where from really and was resigned to the fact that I would probably have to take the engine back out. When I messed about with the clutch I didn't pay particular attention to where the seal was and although I'd taken 2 steps forward by starting it, I was going to take 1 step back in removing it again lol.
Anyways, after some investigation I found I hadn't put the clip down all the way on the crankcase breather .

As I said, two steps forward (As now I can run it for a while, I've found a water leak ).




Lol, that would be "The Beast" (my mrs' Scenic that's jumping mine). Can't fault the beast, it took me putting £20 of petrol in it last weekend

Anyways, no readings from the prosport gauges, power steering acting crazy and a water leak to keep me busy. But I did drive it 10ft yesterday
Getting there then, small steps mate,

How much more to do?
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Good news as it's only Minor stuff
Can't help you with the power steering probs , as I left mine connected to the car.
I did have a minor water leak at the front (one of the small pipes off the water pump) and no matter how tight I did the jubilee clip once it got warm it weaped
In the end I put the heat shield back on the headers which stopped the pipe getting to hot and therefore stopped it leaking
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Originally Posted by JGlanzaV
Getting there then, small steps mate,

How much more to do?
Sort the water leak
Power Steering
Gauges
Front bumper back on
Bloody good clean inside and out
MOT
Tax
Remap

Originally Posted by savage bulldogs
Good news as it's only Minor stuff
Can't help you with the power steering probs , as I left mine connected to the car.
I did have a minor water leak at the front (one of the small pipes off the water pump) and no matter how tight I did the jubilee clip once it got warm it weaped
In the end I put the heat shield back on the headers which stopped the pipe getting to hot and therefore stopped it leaking
It sounds very similar. I ran it up a few times and didn't have any water leaking. It was only when I sorted the oil leak and allowed it to tickover for a while did it show itself. It's dripping from the brand new water pump, which also has a new seal and the r/h pipe above it looks at a jaunty angle.

Honestly I'm as nervous as **** each time I start it, I can't wait to start using it a bit to get the confidence up.

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Originally Posted by Type_R_1984
Just read all 18 pages mate. Cracking thread. I think that's you passed the worst of it now bud.
You gonna do a run in with mineral oil etc?
Sorry I missed this. Yes mate, running in oil already in it. Luckily I bought 10l of it.
http://www.frost.co.uk/millers-oils-...-5-litres.html
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Originally Posted by Kwik
Sort the water leak
Power Steering
Gauges
What needs doing with the above?

Originally Posted by Kwik
Honestly I'm as nervous as **** each time I start it, I can't wait to start using it a bit to get the confidence up.
Stop starting it up, it needs running in!
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Originally Posted by mickywrx
What needs doing with the above?
Stop starting it up, it needs running in!
For some reason the steering is heavy and notchy, the power steering all stayed connected but I'm guessing would need bleeding??? But saying that how tight should the alternator/PS belt be?.
The gauges light up etc, change colour but aren't giving a reading, on all 3.

It's only been started twice, pre and post oil leak.
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What did you do with the intake sensor in the end?
Old 31 October 2013, 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by RoyPinhey
What did you do with the intake sensor in the end?
I haven't as yet. I was thinking I could put it into the hose on the intercooler on the drivers side?
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Re the gauges; you sure you got the plugs in the correct places because the prosports can be a little confusing and the power will fit where the sensor goes.

And as micky said, don't keep starting it, get it booked in for mot and drive the ******, just go the extra long way to the mot station, book it in for the afternoon and drive it around for an hour or so before, don't forget different loads, take it easy at first and gradually increase the revs up to 5k rpm and stop every few miles and have a look under the bonnet just to check it's ok, take some oil and water with you and a few tools in the boot.

After about 50 miles go back to correct running in procedure.

If it's going to go **** up it will do it in the first 10 mins.

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Cheers Ditch. I wired all the green (application) wires in the dash to separate wires running into the engine bay and marked up those wires accordingly. I thought maybe they had come loose but the oil pressure gauge started working yesterday after I'd reconnected the earths in the bay.
It's the water leak that's preventing me from getting it out on the road, and because it's now getting dark as I'm home from work I can't locate it. The fan is also constantly on, and I think that's because I have the original temp sensor now out of the cross over pipe and the prosport sensor in there instead.

Did you have yours mapped whilst running it in Ditch?
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mine was already mapped and I never added any new mods so no reason to map it.

Have you changed the turbo? and do you still have a maf? what ecu you running?

Actually scratch that yours is a 2.1 so best to get a running in map to be on the safe side.

I did it the easy way, although i'm umming and ahring about building another.
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Originally Posted by ditchmyster
mine was already mapped and I never added any new mods so no reason to map it.

Have you changed the turbo? and do you still have a maf? what ecu you running?

Actually scratch that yours is a 2.1 so best to get a running in map to be on the safe side.

I did it the easy way, although i'm umming and ahring about building another.
Turbo is changed, and on the original MAF. My biggest worry is driving the 40 miles to get it mapped.
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Originally Posted by Kwik
The fan is also constantly on, and I think that's because I have the original temp sensor now out of the cross over pipe and the prosport sensor in there instead.
Get the OEM temp sensor refitted and connected.

Fit the aftermarket sensor in an adaptor in the top rad hose. Something like this. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/34mm-Hose-...item20ca045e1b

What ECU are you starting it on? I forget what decision you made.
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Originally Posted by mickywrx
Get the OEM temp sensor refitted and connected.

Fit the aftermarket sensor in an adaptor in the top rad hose. Something like this. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/34mm-Hose-...item20ca045e1b

What ECU are you starting it on? I forget what decision you made.
Standard ECU at present.


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