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Old 31 December 2011, 11:21 AM
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IT has some sort of backlit CMOS sensor in it as well, the cameras are totally different.
Old 31 December 2011, 11:21 AM
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Good, if a little unscientific, page here:

http://campl.us/posts/iPhone-Camera-Comparison
Old 31 December 2011, 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Stealth
They both have their merits.... the Androis OS is ok as an OS but being as it has to fit a million devices it never really performs as well as it should! Most andorid devices are running huge spec hardware underneath them and they still perform no faster than the lesser spec'd Apple products.

It's like Windows and MAC OS, Windows will fit any system... Eventually once you have faffed and fiddled to make it work, MAC OS just works and that is the beauty of the Apple, Everythingjust works and it works well.

I own an Iphone and to be honest I do really like it, it gets all it's updates and as I say, everything works all the time. The androids are a bit clunky at times.

Apple release IOS updates that are compatible with the last 3 Gen of phone (normally) where are Android release an OS update that might be compatible with your phone, it might not, then you have to wait for service carriers to stick their nose in to it, riddle it with crap and then it runs like poo.... The android does have a good custom ROM following though.

Like I say Apple Products just work and will be updated regularly, it's like a perfect fit trainer, the android you'll be lucky if you get updates and when you do it's not specifically for your product.

As it's been said before, which ever phone you plup for now is the OS you will stay with forever probably........ I don't intened to buy any other phone than an iPhone now and that's just because I am used to the OS, good support from Apple and zero agro.
You've been listening to Jack too much
Honest opinion, went from a samsung pixon 8800 to an iphone 3GS, yes a big jump in what the handset could do, the pixon made better calls and didnt suffer issues that the 3GS did (dropping calls for instance or sticking on 3g then not swapping to 2g/edge, its still an issue apple have not corrected since the iphone 3 came out and its still complained about alot on the apple forums).
I then went from my htc brick works phone to an apple iphone 4, vast improvement (not hard from that phone ) but im so resticted and it suffers issues that have not been fixed from the 3gs.
Software wise, apple OS is ok, its far from perfect but it only has to run on 3 or 4 different types of devices, and the older your device, the more you notice the lag as the OS surpasses what the device is capable of processing (this counts for every OS ive seen, windows, ios or android).

OS's like windows and Android have to fit alot of hands in the same glove, making it a snug fit is very hard to do, the point is, that it actually runs on so many different designs, that in itself is great programming, its better than just being able to run on one type or a very limited hardware build as you have to adapt more, both have limitations, but the more open of the 2 has a greater area for improvement as its more adaptable due to its fexibility.
This is one of the reasons im going off Apple and have now an android phone (it works better than the 4 tbh but im still on ios 4 on that, its definately better than the 3gs and im on ios 5.0.1 on that).

In the end its what you want/like, but having owned apple for 2 years i feel relieved going to android, I no longer feel chained down, maybe more apple owners should try it (actually alot have )

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Old 31 December 2011, 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
Good, if a little unscientific, page here:

http://campl.us/posts/iPhone-Camera-Comparison
I never thought it would happen. You've posted a link to substantiate my claim! And it's still 2011, I didn't think the worm would turn until 2012.
Old 31 December 2011, 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by JackClark
I never thought it would happen. You've posted a link to substantiate my claim! And it's still 2011, I didn't think the worm would turn until 2012.
You have to agree though Jack, the Iphone 4's camera wasnt exactly brill bit of a drop from my N95 (though that was a karl zeiss lense and 8mp )
The 4s has improved it, low light picture comparisons would be better for showing how much more light it can take in though

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Old 31 December 2011, 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Ant

Take it you've not seen chefs work?
Maybe he can post a few pics on here.

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Old 31 December 2011, 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Chip
Maybe he can post a few pics on here.

Chip
Believe it or not there's a photography section on this very board......
Old 31 December 2011, 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by bigsinky
it was a 4 and 4S. i wonder how many self shot **** pictures there were?


I had to tell him to stop sending them to me!



Originally Posted by lozgti1
Kim! You ready to jump off a mountain yet?!

Pretty much! My head is like this.............


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Originally Posted by JackClark
I never thought it would happen. You've posted a link to substantiate my claim! And it's still 2011, I didn't think the worm would turn until 2012.
To be fair Jack I always give credit where it's due and the iPhone4S camera is on paper a big leap from the iPhone4 and that link just backs that up with a real world result. The point is not how it compares to it's predecessors, but how it compares to a compact and on that evidence it does rather well! Anyway it's your New Year's present from me
Old 31 December 2011, 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Chip
Maybe he can post a few pics on here.

Chip
Yep and then the ususal crowd can give their 'expert' opinion.... and won't that be fun for him
Old 31 December 2011, 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Ant
Believe it or not there's a photography section on this very board......
Wow , how clever of you to know that . I was wanting to see pics taken with his phone which I doubt are the ones posted in the photo section.

Chip
Old 31 December 2011, 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Chip
Wow , how clever of you to know that . I was wanting to see pics taken with his phone which I doubt are the ones posted in the photo section.

Chip
You'd be wrong again, there's quite a few in there.

You could get your butler to check.
Old 31 December 2011, 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Ant
You're making yourself look like a idiot .

Take it you've not seen chefs work?
No, I admit I have not. But I am not the only who was slightly perplexed by his comments.
Old 31 December 2011, 01:17 PM
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This thread has come out to be very interesting to read, actually; if you look under the unnecessary eyerolling, "Im right. you are wrong.", "mine is bigger than yours" and some not-required caustic jibes here n' there. This camera talk is quite a minefield. Carry on, geekozoids .
Old 31 December 2011, 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Turbohot
This thread has come out to be very interesting to read, actually; if you look under the unnecessary eyerolling, "Im right. you are wrong.", "mine is bigger than yours" and some not-required caustic jibes here n' there. This camera talk is quite a minefield. Carry on, geekozoids .
Guarenteed to happen where people who love apple products are trying to convert and people who dislike them are trying uncovert.

Apple

Old 31 December 2011, 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by topman2180
Guarenteed to happen where people who love apple products are trying to convert and people who dislike them are trying uncovert.

Apple

You need to catch up. It's nearly 5 years since Apple released the iPhone, in that time Android has been able to capture at least some of the magic. It's the Android geeks that are now on some evangelical march, amazed by the applications that Apple users have had for years and letting everyone know. Smartphones are so yesterday.
Old 31 December 2011, 01:51 PM
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I simply stated the 4S camera is better than the 4. I've never taken a shot with an android device - they could make this iphone camera discussion completely moot!!
Old 31 December 2011, 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by JackClark
You need to catch up. It's nearly 5 years since Apple released the iPhone, in that time Android has been able to capture at least some of the magic. It's the Android geeks that are now on some evangelical march, amazed by the applications that Apple users have had for years and letting everyone know. Smartphones are so yesterday.
I'd like to say I'm neutral but I'm coming up to 3 years of iphone ownership myself. Lets be honest Apple products are very good not perfect but then neither are Andriod. I doubt its the products people dislike its the money making super unstoppable marketing expert juggernaut Apple that people dislike. We are british so we love an underdog and who is the underdog here Andriod/Samsung maybe, Lets not forget Andriod made by Google is a Juggernaut of the search world and Samsung is a Juggernaut in TV's/Monitors and maybe not number1 on mobiles for now. Sorry for a slight change of topic but have you seen the samsung galaxy tab ad looks like an apple ad which begs the question is it all in how clever the marketing departments are. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=Y-GiojYnjgk
Old 31 December 2011, 02:33 PM
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iPhone all the way mate.
Best phone I ever had :-)
Since I got my iPhone I bought a iPad 2 aswell and
I think it's amazing aswell.
Other phones are dull and boring compared to it.
I got gta 3 for iOS for £3 and am playing it on my iPhone
How cool is that
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Ok, has anyone yet seen this news on iPhone 4S Siri?

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2011...n_1176018.html

A 12-year-old boy was called an "ugly tw*t" by an iPhone 4S. He was testing the smartphone in Tesco.

Apple's recently released handset boasts Siri, an intelligent software feature that answers questions.

However, when Charlie Le Quesne asked the phone 'how many people are in the world?', the mucky-mouthed mobile responded with "shut the f*ck up you ugly tw*t".

The child's mother complained to staff, who apologised and blamed the phone's profanity on pranksters who had tampered with the device's setup.

"The phone was a demo version and was low enough on the shelf for Charlie to have a go on it," said his mum.

"He asked it a simple question and we couldn't believe the filth it came out with. I thought I must be hearing things. So we asked again and the same four-letter stuff blared out. I asked for the manager and after staff heard it they agreed to unplug it."

A Tesco spokeperson said the company had launched an investigation into the incident.

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^
sounds like BS to me
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Originally Posted by Ant
You'd be wrong again, there's quite a few in there.

You could get your butler to check.
He's polishing the silver at the moment and what with the New Year hunt catering to organise as well he just hasn't got the time.
Old 31 December 2011, 03:05 PM
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I have noted when passing apple shops the grooming of potential customers starts at a very young age indeed , almost in nappies !

- but what you going to do , how much market share has been lost in the last 5 years ?
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Siri calls me "an ambulance"
Old 31 December 2011, 03:18 PM
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Market share although Its important it's also interesting. How about I let you have market share and I take margin instead. That way the government doesn't come in and break up my company as its a monopoly and I still get to be the richest company in the world. Competition isn't always a bad thing.
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Originally Posted by JackClark
Siri calls me "an ambulance"
Jack, I am deffo upgrading to iPhone 4S after learning about this Siri feature. I am an Apple fan, and I shall remain one to the unforeseeable future. Others can like what they like. I don't give two hoots.
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calls you an ambulance ?!

Not something you said was it ?
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Well I've bought a sim free Galaxy S2, which i will use until the launch of the S3 or iPhone 5, it should be with me around the 5th/6th of January.

I must say I'm looking forward to having a play with the Android OS, does anyone know when the ICS firmware is being officially released? Plus any recommendations for protective cases / screen protectors and other accessories?

Now what to do with the iPhone 4?
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Originally Posted by Cannon Fodder
Well I've bought a sim free Galaxy S2, which i will use until the launch of the S3 or iPhone 5, it should be with me around the 5th/6th of January.

I must say I'm looking forward to having a play with the Android OS, does anyone know when the ICS firmware is being officially released? Plus any recommendations for protective cases / screen protectors and other accessories?

Now what to do with the iPhone 4?


Let me know what you think.
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i have a case by otterbox, could be worth buying a micro sd card as well

it isnt the slimest of cases, but it offers very good protection, but what sold it for me is that it has covers on the power, jack ports, as there can be dust at my work and i have ended up with it under the screen of a phone before (iphone)

get your self onto the XDA forum, and everything that you ever wanted to know about this phone will be on there somewhere.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1055

im running a custom rom called 4 seasons. and it is very fast,smooth and stable. and the battery lasts alot longer as well!


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