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Old 31 December 2011, 01:15 AM
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iPhone = head up my own ***
Any other brand = normal human being
Old 31 December 2011, 01:25 AM
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You an iPhone owner then ;-)
Old 31 December 2011, 07:11 AM
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Good choice going for the S2. I've got an iphone 3gs, my wife has a iphone 4s and we also have an Ipad2 plus Macbook Air, so do like our Apple products, but I recently upgraded my 3gs for a galaxy S2 and love the phone.

I have had some issues with it though:

* in-call volume when using the headset is too low (but is fine when playing music).
* sometimes get call echo (for the other party) when using a case (this can be fixed to some effect when using a customer rom with a tweak to turn off noise cancellation). This doesn't happen when using a headset.
* the phone sometimes (couple times a month) seems to just switch itself off (could be down to the custom rom).

things I love about it:

* FM radio - amazed how much I use this!
* custimisation - I'm a techie at heart so love how much messing about you can do with it and running a custom rom with most of the core apps replaced
* that screen - which is just fantastic.

I prefer the iOS experience to Android - though the keyboard (via Swiftkey) is MUCH better on the S2.

Overall, I would choose the S2 again over the iphone - the screen is just wonderful and makes the iphone screen appear tiny and compromised (though I never felt this prior to having the S2).

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Old 31 December 2011, 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Scotsman
Good choice going for the S2. I've got an iphone 3gs, my wife has a iphone 4s and we also have an Ipad2 plus Macbook Air, so do like our Apple products, but I recently upgraded my 3gs for a galaxy S2 and love the phone.

I have had some issues with it though:

* in-call volume when using the headset is too low (but is fine when playing music).
* sometimes get call echo (for the other party) when using a case (this can be fixed to some effect when using a customer rom with a tweak to turn off noise cancellation). This doesn't happen when using a headset.
* the phone sometimes (couple times a month) seems to just switch itself off (could be down to the custom rom).

things I love about it:

* FM radio - amazed how much I use this!
* custimisation - I'm a techie at heart so love how much messing about you can do with it and running a custom rom with most of the core apps replaced
* that screen - which is just fantastic.

I prefer the iOS experience to Android - though the keyboard (via Swiftkey) is MUCH better on the S2.

Overall, I would choose the S2 again over the iphone - the screen is just wonderful and makes the iphone screen appear tiny and compromised (though I never felt this prior to having the S2).
That is a key issue. iPhone owners criticise other products without actually trying them.
Old 31 December 2011, 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Flaps
Based on what evidence?

Me and a mate tested them side by side, with me (on a 4) and my mate (on a 4S) standing next to each other and taking a photograph of exactly the same thing. The image was then viewed on a computer and there wasn't that much of a difference! The file size on the 4S wasn't that much larger either!
Based on the fact I am a photographer with a great deal of experience on a range of cameras and at least 10000 captures on both 4 and 4S. The 4S has a substantially improved sensor.
Old 31 December 2011, 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by ChefDude
Based on the fact I am a photographer with a great deal of experience on a range of cameras and at least 10000 captures on both 4 and 4S. The 4S has a substantially improved sensor.
If you are a photographer, why the hell would you use a mobile phone as your weapon of choice?
Old 31 December 2011, 08:24 AM
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Not all photographers walk around with a DSLR round their necks
Old 31 December 2011, 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Ant
Not all photographers walk around with a DSLR round their necks
They do if they are a professional photographer.
If an occasional snapper, then that's different.
Old 31 December 2011, 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Gear Head
If you are a photographer, why the hell would you use a mobile phone as your weapon of choice?
The best camera is the one you have on you.
Old 31 December 2011, 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Gear Head
They do if they are a professional photographer.
If an occasional snapper, then that's different.
Not true
Old 31 December 2011, 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Chip
So, the winner is:

SAMSUNG GALAXY S2
good choice. now get her rooted...........oooohh err missus. on second thoughts,

1. do you have a life?
2. are you an uber geek?
3. do you expect to use even 10% of the features on the phone anyway?

as i expect the answers are YES, NO, NO then don't bother. just wait for samsung to do an over the air update of Ice Cream sandwich and you will have an even better phone than you have now.

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Old 31 December 2011, 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by ChefDude
Based on... at least 10000 captures on both 4 and 4S.
'AT LEAST 10,000' pictures on a phone that only came out on the 14th October? That must be what, 130 pictures a day?!? Why would a photographer use an iPhone if you are that serious about photographs? Even you must admit that your post sounds a bit like bull ****. I still stick by my test.
Old 31 December 2011, 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Flaps
'AT LEAST 10,000' pictures on a phone that only came out on the 14th October? That must be what, 130 pictures a day?!? Why would a photographer use an iPhone if you are that serious about photographs? Even you must admit that your post sounds a bit like bull ****. I still stick by my test.
it was a 4 and 4S. i wonder how many self shot **** pictures there were?
Old 31 December 2011, 09:39 AM
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You can't beat cynicism

I take a lot of photos and, no bigsinky, not one photo of you sir
Old 31 December 2011, 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by ChefDude
You can't beat cynicism

I take a lot of photos and, no bigsinky, not one photo of you sir
ahh touche mon ami
Old 31 December 2011, 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Flaps
'AT LEAST 10,000' pictures on a phone that only came out on the 14th October? That must be what, 130 pictures a day?!? Why would a photographer use an iPhone if you are that serious about photographs? Even you must admit that your post sounds a bit like bull ****. I still stick by my test.
That's what I thought.

I suppose I am photographer too then, if by that, he just means someone that takes a photo.

May be the reason he has taken 10,000+ photos on his iPhone is because it was very hard to find one that looked half decent.
Old 31 December 2011, 10:02 AM
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The iPhone 4s camera is astonishing, it keeps taking better photos than friends compacts. My compact is still slightly better and it has zoom of course but this is the first time I wouldn't replace it.

The video camera is equally astonishing with auto stabilisation and simple on device editing. I'm getting a waterproof mount for mine, stack it up against the ubiquitous GoPro.
Old 31 December 2011, 10:30 AM
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All you have to do is take photos and you *are a photographer

Are you a decent one? There's the question

It doesn't sound like it
Old 31 December 2011, 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by JackClark
The iPhone 4s camera is quite good as a phone cameras go. My compact is still much better and it has zoom of course but this is the first time I wouldn't replace it.

The video camera is equally good with auto stabilisation and simple on device editing. I'm getting a waterproof mount for mine, stack it up against the ubiquitous GoPro.
Edited for reality
Old 31 December 2011, 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by ChefDude
All you have to do is take photos and you *are a photographer

Are you a decent one? There's the question

It doesn't sound like it
And you are because you have taken 10,000+ on two mobile phones?
Old 31 December 2011, 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by andy97
Edited for reality
Try one for a while, especially in low light, it's astonishing. And lets not forget that the pictures are on my iPad, Laptop and Desktop moments after I take them, no apps to buy, no special cards. Another job for my compact was being a document scanner, iPhone now has that job as well. I'll buy a nice SLR next, couldn't justify one before as I'd always needed a compact.
Old 31 December 2011, 10:45 AM
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Low light was always an issue with the iphone 3gs/4 pictures I had, the sensor should improve that (hopefully) as everyone use to get very grainy pictures

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Old 31 December 2011, 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Gear Head
And you are because you have taken 10,000+ on two mobile phones?
I'm a pretty good tog, but not for quantity of images.

michaeltoyeimages.com
Old 31 December 2011, 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Gear Head
They do if they are a professional photographer.
If an occasional snapper, then that's different.
Sorry but Chefdude is spot on with this, you shoot with whatever you have to hand.

I know of one very famous tog who shot an entire fashion shoot for a website on his phone because his client dared him too and he used the phone camera's shortcomings as part of the artistic make up of the shoot. The client loved it!

Everyone who has a camera can take pictures, but few of them are photographers.

All these people who buy top of the range cameras and argue for days about whether Canon or Nikon are best make me laugh as most of them couldn't make use of the extra quality of a top of the range camera over a middle of the road offering yet they think they can..... that was why I bailed from the Photgraphy forum on here all those years ago!!
Old 31 December 2011, 11:01 AM
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They both have their merits.... the Androis OS is ok as an OS but being as it has to fit a million devices it never really performs as well as it should! Most andorid devices are running huge spec hardware underneath them and they still perform no faster than the lesser spec'd Apple products.

It's like Windows and MAC OS, Windows will fit any system... Eventually once you have faffed and fiddled to make it work, MAC OS just works and that is the beauty of the Apple, Everythingjust works and it works well.

I own an Iphone and to be honest I do really like it, it gets all it's updates and as I say, everything works all the time. The androids are a bit clunky at times.

Apple release IOS updates that are compatible with the last 3 Gen of phone (normally) where are Android release an OS update that might be compatible with your phone, it might not, then you have to wait for service carriers to stick their nose in to it, riddle it with crap and then it runs like poo.... The android does have a good custom ROM following though.

Like I say Apple Products just work and will be updated regularly, it's like a perfect fit trainer, the android you'll be lucky if you get updates and when you do it's not specifically for your product.

As it's been said before, which ever phone you plup for now is the OS you will stay with forever probably........ I don't intened to buy any other phone than an iPhone now and that's just because I am used to the OS, good support from Apple and zero agro.
Old 31 December 2011, 11:03 AM
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DSLR > compact camera > iphone, galaxies, etc.
It's a simple fact that small sensored smartphone cameras and worse optics (glass) can ever compete with DSLR or even compact cameras. Just try to take some pictures in lowlight situations as an example. I don't even start with DOF, etc. Every decent photographer will agree on this. Current technology simply doesn't allow high pixel density on such small sensors as they are used in current smartphones. The sonsors get too hot and will show lots of noise on the pictures. Still, I very often use the iphone as me too do not allways have a camera at hand and I totally agree with ChefDude, that the best camera ist the one you carry with you.
Old 31 December 2011, 11:08 AM
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Its whats inside the head not whats inside the camera !
Old 31 December 2011, 11:14 AM
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Kim! You ready to jump off a mountain yet?!
Old 31 December 2011, 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Gear Head
And you are because you have taken 10,000+ on two mobile phones?
You're making yourself look like a idiot .

Take it you've not seen chefs work?
Old 31 December 2011, 11:15 AM
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Here's one for the Photographers, Apple claim that the 4s captures 75% more light than the 4, this is obviously of benefit and obviously due to the addition of a new lens, making a total of 6 I think. Are they lying?


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