Geometry settings
By running more static negative camber, you're reducing the tyre contact patch, in a straight line.
Last edited by 2pot; Apr 28, 2016 at 12:44 PM.
Start at Neg 2 deg 30mins camber = neg 2.50 deg camber - reduce, if excessive tyre wear.
Use the front and rear tyre pressures and the smallest bars possible, to get the balance you like.
If your bars aren't giving you quite the balance you want, then:
0.04mins = 0.07deg Toe-in per side, sharper turn-in - might induce mid-corner understeer
0.04mins = 0.07deg Toe-out per side, if car too responsive or twitchy. Turn-in less sharp. Gives throttle controlled oversteer.
Leave the rear as is.
Last edited by 2pot; Apr 28, 2016 at 02:04 PM.
Well i tried to set my rear toe to toe in as it was toe out quite a bit which wasnt great, not knowing how each notch on the adjuster bolt was measured i went on the 4th notch and went for a free alignment check, my rear toe in is now currently at 40 minutes. im guessing that will eat my rear tyres in no time ?
Cheers
Cheers
Well i tried to set my rear toe to toe in as it was toe out quite a bit which wasnt great, not knowing how each notch on the adjuster bolt was measured i went on the 4th notch and went for a free alignment check, my rear toe in is now currently at 40 minutes. im guessing that will eat my rear tyres in no time ?
Cheers
Cheers
Yeah I hear you , will redo it onto the 1st notch as I'm guessing each notch is around 10 minutes of adjustment on the standard bolt / washer . Is it worth having slight toe in over 0 for a daily driver ?
Yes, a little toe in for DD
Ok thanks
yeah I could of had it tweaked but at £30 for the tweak of the bolt I thought I will have a go myself for now until after payday
currently the front is all ok but I'm assuming if I remove 30 minutes of toe in this will throw the fronts out and I will need front tracking doing again ?
yeah I could of had it tweaked but at £30 for the tweak of the bolt I thought I will have a go myself for now until after payday
currently the front is all ok but I'm assuming if I remove 30 minutes of toe in this will throw the fronts out and I will need front tracking doing again ?
Ok thanks
yeah I could of had it tweaked but at £30 for the tweak of the bolt I thought I will have a go myself for now until after payday
currently the front is all ok but I'm assuming if I remove 30 minutes of toe in this will throw the fronts out and I will need front tracking doing again ?
yeah I could of had it tweaked but at £30 for the tweak of the bolt I thought I will have a go myself for now until after payday
currently the front is all ok but I'm assuming if I remove 30 minutes of toe in this will throw the fronts out and I will need front tracking doing again ?
If it's 30 all-in with the VAT then acceptable I guess to get things all spot on?
Well it was £29.95 for adjustment of front or rear but then if Rear needed it was then £47 , I thought if they adjusted just rear it would throw out the front which would warrant the £47 not £29.95 for just a rear alignment ?!?!
Either wsy way I was looking at £30 or nearly £50 lol
Either wsy way I was looking at £30 or nearly £50 lol
Last edited by The Rig; Jan 28, 2019 at 07:36 PM.
They're not adjustable at the rear, unless using aftermarket camber bolts. Front has camber bolts as oem.
But, there is play in the rear strut, lower, bolt holes when you slack off the 2 lower bolts, each side.
Your only 36mins apart at the rear - with pushing and prying, you could even that camber out.
But, there is play in the rear strut, lower, bolt holes when you slack off the 2 lower bolts, each side.
Your only 36mins apart at the rear - with pushing and prying, you could even that camber out.
Yeah mine seems to have the same oem lower shock bolts as the front
I initially only had a front setup done hence the rear not being equal , if I now wanted the rears doing I would have to pay the whole amount again to have it all done
I'm happy with how it is , my rear toe could be a smudge less I was aiming for positive 15 so not bad via guesstimate to get 24 I'm hoping it won't wear rear tires much more if any than if it were at positive 15 ?
cheers
I initially only had a front setup done hence the rear not being equal , if I now wanted the rears doing I would have to pay the whole amount again to have it all done
I'm happy with how it is , my rear toe could be a smudge less I was aiming for positive 15 so not bad via guesstimate to get 24 I'm hoping it won't wear rear tires much more if any than if it were at positive 15 ?
cheers
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Forgive me if this is obvious, but it's late & I am done in: If I am reading the below quote correctly is flipping that alignment bolt a free anti-lift kit?
*When I say "free anti-lift kit" I mean will I get the same (or a similar amount of) caster for fcukall £'s
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*When I say "free anti-lift kit" I mean will I get the same (or a similar amount of) caster for fcukall £'s
Cheers
Here you can see how the pin normally sits:
Attachment 56139
torque specs:
Attachment 56140
With the pin flipped 180 deg and he added a plate for even more caster:
Attachment 56141
Attachment 56139
torque specs:
Attachment 56140
With the pin flipped 180 deg and he added a plate for even more caster:
Attachment 56141
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I have finally got all the suspension work done on my '03 WRX . Have Pedders on now. I live in Hull. Best nearest place to get geometry set up done? Are Kwik Fit fairish?? Last time I had it done was at Litchfield. Don't really want to travel that far again.
I'll jump in as Arnie hasn't come back yet...he's really the best chap to speak and will prolly add something
Below is a fast road geo print out for a classic. The set-up works very well. There is a fair amount of toe-in (front & rear) which can feel slightly disconnected at slowish straight ahead driving, but comes alive when pushing on and is what I use on my classics.
Note the amount of castor which is a fair bit for a classic (you want as much as possible). This was achieved with an ALK. If your Impreza is a New Age you will have this amount of castor anyway (see Arnie's tips for getting more castor below)
Note: Toe settings and measurements for both below are toe-IN
Here is a New Age print out with more castor. The camber is a little excessive and perhaps one and three quarter degrees may be better, but toe-in is the same
Below is a fast road geo print out for a classic. The set-up works very well. There is a fair amount of toe-in (front & rear) which can feel slightly disconnected at slowish straight ahead driving, but comes alive when pushing on and is what I use on my classics.
Note the amount of castor which is a fair bit for a classic (you want as much as possible). This was achieved with an ALK. If your Impreza is a New Age you will have this amount of castor anyway (see Arnie's tips for getting more castor below)
Note: Toe settings and measurements for both below are toe-IN
Here is a New Age print out with more castor. The camber is a little excessive and perhaps one and three quarter degrees may be better, but toe-in is the same
I've just ordered some Tein Flex X and want a local garage to fit them to my 05 widetrack hawk. Should I take the newage layout with me but write over the -2.12 camber and request the 1.75 camber instead. I rarely use the car for fast road and never track it.
Yes, spot on. It's certainly a good starting point. If you've gone to the faff of where you are now, you're keen, and if it were me I would like to try variations on the settings, but that's me.
You certainly won't go far wrong with those settings though. Let us know how you get on
Is the toe in this picture in minutes ?
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Just wanted to say a quick thank you to everyone who posted their experiences and settings. It has given me a good starting point for my own setup on the not so much a Wrx Blob wagon.
Current setup:
Meister R Zeta Crd+ coilovers with front camber plates
Superpro Alk
Superpro car fully polybushed
Whiteline front and rear arb
Whiteline rear adjustable control arms - front and rear
Eibach rear camber bolts
Michelin Pilot Sport 4 tyres (17x8) 225 45 R17
Car is daily driven with the weekend hoons up the Wicklow mountains. Going to be at the first track day with this new setup after 2 years at the end of November. Any suggestions would be well appreciated
Current setup:
Meister R Zeta Crd+ coilovers with front camber plates
Superpro Alk
Superpro car fully polybushed
Whiteline front and rear arb
Whiteline rear adjustable control arms - front and rear
Eibach rear camber bolts
Michelin Pilot Sport 4 tyres (17x8) 225 45 R17
Car is daily driven with the weekend hoons up the Wicklow mountains. Going to be at the first track day with this new setup after 2 years at the end of November. Any suggestions would be well appreciated
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Hahaha. I actually thought about a second set of clothes...just in case :P
Been to that track a few times. Previous setup was 330bhp and currently running 470bhp with better brakes and direct port water meth injection etc on a nearly stock block. So, definitely will be taking it easy initially to get used to it
Been to that track a few times. Previous setup was 330bhp and currently running 470bhp with better brakes and direct port water meth injection etc on a nearly stock block. So, definitely will be taking it easy initially to get used to it
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