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Old Dec 10, 2011 | 04:34 PM
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"there's no file system to download to" What! Email me a file, I'll edit it and send it back, if you're a **** you'll now list some obscure file that I can't open.

If like all the hip dudes you've given up email what about Dropbox? Heard of it?
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Old Dec 10, 2011 | 05:03 PM
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Why deliver something that can't be used. Seriously, go to Apple/YouTube on a few different browsers see what gets delivered.

Go to YouTube.com/html5 first.
That didn't answer my question which was why is trying to deliver the same file to all similar devices (e.g. mobile plaforms) silly?

You say it's because it can't be used..... yes exactly and why not? Becuase Apple do not know their **** from their elbow that is why not. Videos that play on one device won't play on another... both Apple/IOS devices... because Apple keep changing the specs... yet all these play on all Android decices... so you tell me which is best for the real world!!!

Now go to a website in your iPad and find a video or audio file and save it with one click to your file system like you can on that pesky notebook .... good luck.

Sorry, but as good as Apple are at some things they are very bad at others and for no good reason. Fine kill off Flash video if they must, but if their much touted replacement is virtually impossible to get working on all their devices without creating several different versions what is the point!

My clients website is going to look great:

Mobile video versions for this media (please click the appropriate link):

iPod
iPod Classic
iPod lastest
iPhone 3
iPhione 3/IOS5
iPhone 4
iPhone 4/IOS5
iPhone 4S/IOS5
iPad
iPad2
iPad2/IOS

Note to Android users: click whichever you like, they will all play

LOL!

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Old Dec 10, 2011 | 07:32 PM
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Old Dec 10, 2011 | 07:52 PM
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Go to YouTube on any iOS device and the video will play, must be either Donkey magic or you're doing something wrong.
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Old Dec 11, 2011 | 01:56 AM
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Originally Posted by JackClark
Go to YouTube on any iOS device and the video will play, must be either Donkey magic or you're doing something wrong.
Although I was being a little facetious in the above post YouTube have just got to where I am with their encoding in that they have a couple of H.264 encodes that cover most IOS devices... but not all. Just search the web for the amount of people who have a problem using YouTube on older and some very new IOS devices as well as the other classic Apple issue of sometimes it plays sometimes it doesn't. There are plenty!

Also let's not be fooled here... YouTube do an awful lot of browser sensing and then send which ever version of the video is right for the browser. They didn't used to do this as they didn't need to when Flash ran on everything only changing over to this model in 2007 with the advent of the first iPhon and no Flash support for it. No one really knows how many formats they have for their videos, but they do support Flash, H.264 and WebM encodes in various guises.

That's all very well for a big business like that, but for smaller operations like my client creating multiple versions all the time and having to have a website that has to sense whch mobile device is accessing it is a pain in the ****.... it isn't progress really is it? And all that is after spending an age finding the encode paramaters that work for all devices/IOS combinations.

Google Chrome is about to drop support for H.264 citing WebM as the future yet other browsers don't support WebM as yet and some older browsers support neither. Luckily JWPlayer provide a soleution that allows one video container to select from multiple source files as to which should work on the platform it is running on and that is about the best we can do right now.

Happy days... not!

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Old Dec 11, 2011 | 09:50 AM
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I fully understand the apple haters. I even got fed up of the hand cuffs a bit after having iphones for years. I keenly awaited the release of the HTC Sensation to break me free of the apple cuffs... It went back to O2 within 14 days and I went back to my old 3GS. I tried the samsung s2, plastic fantastic. Everything else is just frustrating to use.

I know the ipad has its flaws but I can just hope they sort the software issues. The main thing is in over a year of using my ipad every day (for hours a day) it's never once been snarled up and slow like the samsung I spent 10 minutes with! That's worth a lot to me. I just use my ipad for surfing the net, if I want to do computer related things I'll fire up my pc (and wait for it to warm up and snarl up with pop ups of updates and expired antivirus bollox)

It's when you jailbreak the iphone you realise why they devices might seem restrictive. All the unstable software causes crashes, battery draining and the slick device ends up feeling like a ***** up. You go back to how it was intended and then appreciate their work.

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Old Dec 14, 2011 | 10:14 PM
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Just a heads up (until apple update the software)

Turn of Java in settings/safari

It's not crashing on here anymore when replying. It always shows java errors on here when you run the debug console, turned it off and it seems stable.
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Old Dec 15, 2011 | 07:45 AM
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Originally Posted by jameswrx
Just a heads up (until apple update the software)

Turn of Java in settings/safari

It's not crashing on here anymore when replying. It always shows java errors on here when you run the debug console, turned it off and it seems stable.
Just tried it and it still crashes on my iPad2
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Old Dec 28, 2011 | 01:11 AM
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This problem also happens on my ipad2 when replying AND sending PM's!!!
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Old Dec 28, 2011 | 01:34 AM
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Weirdly, I've just turned off cookies and it hasn't crashed since either.

Might be worth a go?
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Old Dec 28, 2011 | 09:52 AM
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Work fine on my 18 month old pokey netbook Jack!
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Old Dec 28, 2011 | 11:55 AM
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Try, Safari>advanced>website data> and then clear it all. Also I have an app 59p called 'process killer' that helped.
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Old Dec 28, 2011 | 12:02 PM
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Doesn't work Azz, the problem is with Vbulletin it affects all forums that use it. Unfortunately Forums are a dying game so I doubt there's any money to fix it.
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Old Dec 28, 2011 | 12:17 PM
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Does it happen with other browsers on the iPad2 or just Safari?
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Old Dec 28, 2011 | 12:21 PM
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All browsers I've tried.
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Old Dec 28, 2011 | 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
Does it happen with other browsers on the iPad2 or just Safari?
It's happening on other browsers too and in apps! Only since the 5.0.1 update mind. I try to use Dolphin browser usually. The above was a suggestion on the endless forums I've visited and worked for about half an hour, but sadly back to normal. The other day it happened loads but thought I'd sorted it some how, didn't do it at all last night for about the 5 hours I was on it, then this morning it won't stop!
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Old Dec 28, 2011 | 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
Does it happen with other browsers on the iPad2 or just Safari?
No it happens with Safari when used on iOS5 plus any broswers that use the Safari webtools such as Atomic browser, browsers such as Dolphin HD (which do not use Safari webtools) do not suffer the same problems.

That is how I overcame the problem, plus Dolphin HD is a better browser than Safari (and Dolphin HD was recommended by JackClark).
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Old Dec 28, 2011 | 01:24 PM
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I'll give dolphin HD a try later
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Old Dec 28, 2011 | 01:33 PM
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It's not easy to say where the issue is really.

vBulletin isn't very standards compliant in some areas so it may well be part of the problem, but it hangs together in other browsers on other platforms well enough so some of the blame must lie at the IOS/Safari/Atomic door.

Either way I wouldn't expect a fix from either side any time soon! If Dolphin works use it would be my advice.
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Old Dec 28, 2011 | 11:44 PM
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Just downloaded dolphin hd so will see how it goes for an hour
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Old Dec 29, 2011 | 06:11 PM
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Just downloaded dolphin hd so will see how it goes for an hour
Any better?
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Old Dec 29, 2011 | 06:39 PM
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So far, so good, although I haven't used it alot, maybe 1hr max. Will give it some more browsing later one tho.
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Old Dec 29, 2011 | 07:24 PM
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Dolphin HD works for me, cured my problems but like I've said before its a pity that the supplied browser falls over when iOS 5 is installed when it didn't on previous firmware versions.
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Old Dec 30, 2011 | 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
Any better?
Dolphin HD Just crashed...

App version: Dolphin HD 2.0
OS Name: iPhone OS
OS Version: 5.0.1
Device Model: iPad
Exception reason: Signal 10 was raised.
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Old Dec 30, 2011 | 02:23 PM
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It does it on every browser I've tried, don't know if this matters but it doesnt do it if I'm not logged in
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Old Dec 30, 2011 | 02:30 PM
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Mmmm beginning to look like an IOS 5 issue then. I have more faith in Apple fixing it than if it was down to vBulletin so I suppose that is sort of a positive albeit not in the short term. Does it definitely happen on all vBuelltin sites? Or is it just SN?
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I'll register on one and try.
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Old Dec 30, 2011 | 03:00 PM
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On the up side, Dolphin HD recognised the crash and prompted me to email them a crash report, hence the detail.

Hopefully, they can sort out it with Apple.
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Old Dec 30, 2011 | 03:09 PM
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On the up side, Dolphin HD recognised the crash and prompted me to email them a crash report, hence the detail.

Hopefully, they can sort out it with Apple.
I've sent two crash reports too
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Old Dec 31, 2011 | 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
Mmmm beginning to look like an IOS 5 issue then. I have more faith in Apple fixing it than if it was down to vBulletin so I suppose that is sort of a positive albeit not in the short term. Does it definitely happen on all vBuelltin sites? Or is it just SN?
I'd say it's deffinately an ios5 issue as my apple devices never crashed until latest update.
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