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Old Nov 27, 2011 | 02:09 PM
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Wonder if anyone tops themselves just as they find life a pain in the ****, not depressed or even unhappy, just been there, done it and now finds it a bit of a bind ?
Elderly people want to shuffle off, they have had enough really.
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Old Nov 27, 2011 | 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by J4CKO
Wonder if anyone tops themselves just as they find life a pain in the ****, not depressed or even unhappy, just been there, done it and now finds it a bit of a bind ?
Yes i bet they do.


Sometimes i think it's all pointless (not in a depressed i'm gonna kill myself way but just if i think with no emotion and just logic)
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Old Nov 27, 2011 | 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by J4CKO
Wonder if anyone tops themselves just as they find life a pain in the ****, not depressed or even unhappy, just been there, done it and now finds it a bit of a bind ?
The Myth of Sisyphus.
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Old Nov 27, 2011 | 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by J4CKO
Wonder if anyone tops themselves just as they find life a pain in the ****, not depressed or even unhappy, just been there, done it and now finds it a bit of a bind ?
I would think so. Probably not that common though.

They've just had enough.


Originally Posted by davyboy
Selfish bugger.
Never seen it like that but know others who do. Putting those that are left behind to one side I actually think it takes a strong will to kill yourself. Even though those that do kill themselves often appear weak willed.
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Old Nov 27, 2011 | 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by ukjesters
If you've ever been in that dark place where your mind simply isn't your own, then you'd understand.
Originally Posted by alcazar
If you've not been there, you can't know.
But you two don't know either.....or you'd not be able to post!

I do know someone who's husband committed suicide, needless to say she thinks he is a selfish **** for leaving her the kids to cope.
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Old Nov 27, 2011 | 03:05 PM
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R.I.P Gary Speed, one of the Toon's and football's finest
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Old Nov 27, 2011 | 03:17 PM
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RIP Speedo

One of my favourite footballers when i was growing up, am absolutely gutted.

Who knows what happened. He was very much a family man, so i'd assume it was something to do with that.
It's easy to point fingers, and call him selfish. But if he was about to loose the biggest thing in his life, for whatever reason, then who knows what state he was in.
My fiancee means the world to me, and if i was going to loose her god knows what'd go through my head.
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Old Nov 27, 2011 | 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by richiewong
R.I.P Gary Speed, one of the Toon's and football's finest
Ditto

Very sad news

The toon army won't forget him.
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Old Nov 27, 2011 | 03:26 PM
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Sad news I remember him mostly from his days at Newcastle but no matter what team he played for he always put on a solid performance .

Depression is a terrible thing and when that dark cloud descends and clouds your judgement anything can happen.
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Old Nov 27, 2011 | 03:44 PM
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Shocked and stunned at the news.

RIP Speedo

A fantastic player
Very very sad news
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Old Nov 27, 2011 | 04:43 PM
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Don't give a **** what anyone says - selfish **** regardless of his reasons!
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Old Nov 27, 2011 | 04:43 PM
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RIP Gary Speed.

One of footballs honest guys.

Some of the posts regarding this are awful... Im shocked people could write something like that about a good guy

Last edited by craigfturbo2000; Nov 27, 2011 at 04:57 PM. Reason: Simply disbelief in mankind
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Old Nov 27, 2011 | 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by davyboy
But you two don't know either.....or you'd not be able to post!

I do know someone who's husband committed suicide, needless to say she thinks he is a selfish **** for leaving her the kids to cope.
Not going into details, I do know what it's like to be in that frame of mind. I was extremely lucky to be in a professional occupation at the time and the support was second to none. It's obvious you've never been so low in your life that you thought that there was only one option available to you, believe me it's not very nice. As I said earlier, some make it through some don't. And yes it's not nice for those left behind, but you put yourself, if you can, in the mind of the person making that choice, thinking that all avenues are closed and there's only one option left.
Depression/mental health problems are vastly, vastly underrated imho.
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Old Nov 27, 2011 | 05:46 PM
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I don't really follow football but I knew who he was from the TV.

Sorry to hear this news

RIP
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Old Nov 27, 2011 | 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Brun
Don't give a **** what anyone says - selfish **** regardless of his reasons!

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Old Nov 27, 2011 | 06:26 PM
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????
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Old Nov 27, 2011 | 06:34 PM
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There was a point in my life where i had nothing. I'd gone from a lot to very very little in a very short space in time, i won't go into details. I made a genuine attempt to end it all, luckily though i had good people around me that put a stop to it.

That aside Speed had everything going for him, and I'm sorry, knowing people with depression there is no hiding it, someone with depression would be widely known for it within family and peers.

I didn't know him, he wasn't particularly a hero of mine but i'm stunned to hear the news that someone so successful and so well respected, and of course so young has passed away suddenly. His family are probably speculating and trying to find reason, out of respect for them as well as Speed, lets leave it untill we know more.
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Old Nov 27, 2011 | 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by davyboy
I'm not wrong. It is selfish as everyone else has to pick up the pieces.

Imagine what his family are going through.

Sorry, but i'm with Davyboy on that point. Unless you've been on the 'recieving end' then your comments about a 'dark place' are worthless.

Either way, RIP Gary, shame it came to this. Thoughts with his family, especially his kids.
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Old Nov 27, 2011 | 06:52 PM
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Selfish period.

Definitely thoughts with his family! Dealing with a family death as I have found out myself these last couple of weeks is a massive stress, nevermind the actual death of a close one. I cant imagine how bad it would be if the death was due to a suicide as well.
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Old Nov 27, 2011 | 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Brun
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Jamie finds it difficult to express himself using advanced forms of communication like writing, so when his instincts tell him that something's not right he puts up a picture.
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Old Nov 27, 2011 | 07:09 PM
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My uncle jumped out of the loft noosed up due to a bit of debt.....nothing else

Nothing personal but it's the *****'s way out of life
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Old Nov 27, 2011 | 07:22 PM
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some of the post above actually make me laugh ...........its not that easy to commit suicide, some would "say" it takes courage !

RIP Gary Speed and my thoughts goes to his close ones
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Old Nov 27, 2011 | 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by bighead
some of the post above actually make me laugh ...........its not that easy to commit suicide, some would "say" it takes courage !

RIP Gary Speed and my thoughts goes to his close ones
"Some" being complete morons yea
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Old Nov 27, 2011 | 07:27 PM
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RIP A true professional and played in that great midfield of Batty McAllister Strachan Speed
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Old Nov 27, 2011 | 07:36 PM
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I hate threads like this, they are the worst thing the internet has brought us. People should just keep their opinions to themselves.
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Old Nov 27, 2011 | 07:59 PM
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Which would make NSR pointless would it not? This is a forum where everyone can air their opinion - you are entitled to yours and everybody else is entitled to theirs. If you have trouble reading sommat you don't agree with then maybe a forum ain't the place for you???
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Old Nov 27, 2011 | 08:00 PM
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How do we know he wasn't mentally ill, like bipolar?
Sad sad day. RIP Gary you'll be missed
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Old Nov 27, 2011 | 08:19 PM
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I think if he was I'll or had a condition we would have known about it, or someone would.

I have a feeling a news paper was about to report something about him or his wife.
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Old Nov 27, 2011 | 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by JTaylor
Jamie finds it difficult to express himself using advanced forms of communication like writing, so when his instincts tell him that something's not right he puts up a picture.
Freak.
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Originally Posted by Jamie
Freak.
Or monosyllables. He'll include a punctuation mark when really wanting to demonstrate his erudition. I'm honoured.
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