**** me, we'll have no one left at this rate!

 

I also run two cars, pay tax, insurance, and all the other crap that goes with it for both of them, yet still choose to cycle to work most days, and quite often to the shops or the pub, because it bloody well suits me to do so. Will you now shut the **ck up and admit you're wrong?

 

Still here, for now.

 

LOL, what do you think?

 

Ahem, Kieran. ^

 

I really don't get why people hate cyclists..even if they are bell ends etc how hard is it to be curtious for the few seconds they are in your way.

I totally get it when a minority of a cyclist just pulls out and goes up the wrong way of a roundabout etc. yes it's wrong but get over it.

Like someone mentioned above. You give horses a wide birth so why not a cyclist. They may be bell ends but they are fragile! Just think before pulling out and give them space!

I also think its good that they are recording and reading plates out.. It winds me up when dick heads cut me up n I'm in a car! Why shouldn't these people be reported for driving like a ****?

 

I have the utmost respect for cyclists and always try to take care around them, on the roads. But, I do find the camera milarky a little bit weird. I don't have a camera in my car, as I am not remotely interested in what other folks are up to, so why do cyclists?
Any keen riders care to explain, please

 

I don't have one of these cameras myself (I don't see the need, as I do most of my cycling out in the country or in smallish towns) but is it really any different to having a Road-Hawk type camera in a car?

 

Would that be RJ05 EFD?

 

Re the cyclist, just a series of poor observation to the possible dangers. What made me laugh was the woman who drove over the bike and kept going for several yards. Oh what's that noise, ill just turn up the radio

The woman driver caught knocking the pedestrian. What a complete cnnt not to stop or even admit it there and then. I hope she gets fisted whilst in prison, that's where she will be staying for a long time.

 

I don't know, that's why I asked

 

Lots of reasons - there's this one **** head in Stoke who rides around like some kind of arbitrator of everything while breaking multiple road laws himself, all the while hurling abuse at anyone comes within 5' of him. He records it all, posts it up and can't see that he's almost always wrong and often the instigator of the incidents himself.

There's some who have had enough near misses and actual hits to want to use a camera as evidence - there are rolling footage cameras available for cars to aid in insurance claims. I must stress though, that the minefield the cyclists who commute in inner city areas run the exact same gauntlet as all the other road users, they're just more vulnerable.

There are others, like me, who got one because they cycle through the countryside and get to see some amazing sights while cycling along. You rarely get the chance to enjoy some of the scenery in a car and it's great to be able have a record of what you've seen (hence me getting the best camera I couldn't afford). I've been able to see some stunning sunrises these last few weeks. I stopped along one stretch just to watch the sun come up last week - very relaxing start to the day

Personally I'm very fortunate in that I cycle along country roads and on stretches where professional drivers show astonishing courtesy on a regular basis. I've used the footage to send emails thanking the companies involved and had positive responses back. (this was the primary motivator for me buying one in the 1st place)

I think generally (in the case of inner city cycling) you see so many examples of bad road use (car / lorry / bus / cycle / pedestrian) that you feel a need to record some of the worst for posterity. There is one guy who specifically records bad cycling while he cycle commutes - uses it as a kind of education tool

 

Thanks for that, Kieran. Makes sense now

 

I have a camera on my motorbike, for some of the same reasons as Kieran, but there's no way I'd consider putting them up for public consumption

 

Very important to concentrate on driving defensively on a bicycle or a motor bike. People very often just don't notice a two wheeler and you have to ride with that expectation in mind.

Not much good lying on the floor badly unjured saying that it was your right of way. Best to do your utmost to prevent the accident in the first place.

Les

 

Good advice Les.

I drive and cycle to work - same route. For both modes of transport I get cut up, people pull out on me, get too close, reverse into spaces on wrong side of the road, reverse out of junctions/drive ways, etc, etc.

Makes no difference to their driving what I am on/in. The difference is the outcome if there was an accident. Bent bumper versus broken limbs (or worse).

 

I do think there are some really millitant, angry cyclists looking for an opportunity to play the victim but why are they like that, probably becuase they have been treated badly and feel the need to get their own back, they wouldnt be charging round over-reacting and putting the footage on Youtube if they had nothing to trigger that.

I am lucky with my commute as it is mainly rural but it can be staggering how little consideration some drivers will give you, I am always careful around cyclists but it amazes me how few acknowledge you having waited quite a while to overtake them, I always just raise a hand if someone has hung back and waited, just a gesture that may or may not be noticed, I am always chuffed if someone makes the effort to acknowledge my driving and why I get annoyed when you let someome through in the car and they totally blank you like it is your lot to defer to them.

There is a vested interest as I see the same cars day in day out, if they recognise you as having been polite, you go into the mental bin of being OK and next time they make an effort, saw it in action, got a bad overtake on a single track road by a Van driver, didnt hold him up but the next day I used the layby and signalled in and signalled him to pass so he gave me a quick beep in thanks, then for two weeks he let on every day I saw him, another three or four times.

If everyone made an effort I reckon driving would be a lot nicer.

 

That last one told him

 

The camera distorted the clearance of some of the vehicles passing him. Also he didn't always stay in the cycle lane. If you want to stop cars, buses cutting you up, ride in the middle of the lane in towns. A good cyclist can easily ride 15-20mph, which will be quick in town.

I use this method to guard against being cut up, positioning is all important to protect yourself. I would rather hold traffic up than be clipped and squashed without the driver noticing me.

To balance the argument, there were some complete ***** in car, vans who just completely ignored he was there and pulled out on him.

 

Most car drivers are pretty decent as are most cyclists. The Woman in that video should be sent to prison, she had no idea what was going on and then, as if to take the **** tried to keep driving forward once she realised she had run something over. I cannot imagine a sane court in the land not taking her licence away. I can't complain too much about cyclists but those that ride two abrest on country roads deliberately holding up traffic deserve to get knocked off and those that run red lights deserve a smack as well. I recently had to emergency stop with my dogs in the car after a cyclist decided to run a red on a sunday morning, I stopped by instinct but I kind of wish I had ploughed into the **** head on an tought him a lesson.

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-15892074

Would probably help the lad I saw last night, no lights no helmet texting as he cycled weaving along a busy main road, quality......

 

This happened near me last night.

http://www.chad.co.uk/news/local/hit...ries_1_4006591