mamoon2

Android is on many handsets by many different manufacturers, so this is to be expected and is meaning less.

Read the thread above, someone put it well.... its like saying Diesel is out selling the Ford Fiesta

Jimbob

iTrader: (13)

Lol how many got one because of its spec sheet and technical abilities, and how many bought it because its an iPhone?? I can say the former is a negligible number and the latter being the main.

99% of people don`t use their phones to the max of their capabilities, and the majority of people don`t need a smart phone, yet they get one because everyone else has one.

Cannon Fodder

iTrader: (100)

You have just proven my post aboveto be correct, you really do suffer from some form of angry person/victim complex.

As for paying over the odds my iPhone didn't cost me a bean I had it as a FREE upgrade from O2, plus I had a better deal on the tariff than what Joe Public would pay as well.

As for the branding then so what? Nokia was once a brand that people aspired to own, rather than now where it is clearly in the bargain basement bucket. But that was NOT my reason for choosing an iPhone, I had a list of functions required which included the iPod functions so my natural choice was an iPhone.

I dare say one day you will grow up and own an iPhone, but until that day comes just be happy with your N8.

As for pslewis I actually have a lot of time for Pete, his posts do have some thought behind them and can stir up a good debate; perhaps you could study a few of them and learn.

JackClark

I have an N8, it's terrible, looks pretty.

Free maps are good if you're a tightarse.

mamoon2

What do you mean, "majority of people don't need a smart phone"? How do you know this? What a wildly unaccurate presumption

How many people use the following?:

Email
Facebook
Twitter
Mobile internet
Camera
Video
MP3

I'd say the majority, but i'll refrain from posting made up statistics based on my own personal understanding.

I think your brain is running on Windows Vista judging by some of your comments

Jimbob

iTrader: (13)

Lol your so full of crap. Laughable.

You suffer from putting people down, lording it over people and bitching.
If you think your above everyone then thats your opinion, but your just like everyone else in that your a sheep.

People follow trends, call it fashion. Yet you stubbornly refuse to accept that.
The herd mentality is built into human nature, so you obviously can`t be human. Free will is a subjective thing, in that you think you have it, but you don`t, its the biggest flaw of human nature. But again you must be different, as your not like this.

When speaking in general terms you ALWAYS make it personal, so maybe have a look a bit closer to home before you try and make assumptions as to personality disorders lol.

BLU

iTrader: (27)

Quote of the week now in my Sig

I love these ***** waving threads

Jimbob

iTrader: (13)

So you NEED to look at emails, check Facebook, internet, etc??

No, its your choice to do that. Needing something and choosing something are 2 different things.
You need water to live, you don`t need flavoured Evian.

How many people need to check emails during the day, that if they didn`t would affect their lives be it their job or similar??

Its a simple fact that we don`t need these things, its our choice.

mamoon2

You said "most people don't need a smartfone yet get one because everyone else has one.

You really are not making any sense now.

Jaybird-UK

How does that perform? I used a few FM transmitters a while back and to be honest the performance was terrible. It was worse still when travelling up and down the country where a new local radio station would bleed over.

I bluetooth stream audio to my car speakers which I have no issues with

Jimbob

iTrader: (13)

Yeah most people don`t need a smartphone, those that do for business purposes are few and far between. As most people have a computer, that they perform their tasks on. And apart from Facebook etc, most people text or phone each other.

Cameras were on non smart phones, internet (albeit basic) was on non smart phones via Wap.

The majority of people only really need a phone that can ring people, send text messages, then there is the extras like send emails, and have mp3. All of which can be done on a non smart phone.

The trick these companies create is making us need something we don`t really need.

Question yourself, do you really need a mobile phone??
Could you manage without one??

Most people would be able to, but lack the convenience, but some need to be able for their work.

Jimbob

iTrader: (13)

I find it great tbh, occasionally have to re-tune it.
But all in all its good, does play music at a lower volume than other radio channels, so if you swap you`ll be in for a small shock lol.

But saves any leads, and carrying CD`s and having extra MP3 players, etc etc.
And as I`ve worked in Lorries and vans etc, saves having loads of adapters, and no matter how old, as long as it has a radio it`ll work.

Will also work with bluetooth, but my headunit in my Scoob is old lol, has MP3 and Aux in but can`t be bothered to buy cables.

Ant

who told you it was the best phone on the market? the spotty kid at phones4u so he could get commission on phones they are struggling to shift.

Jimbob

iTrader: (13)

Lol typical.
I have had it for a year. I looked for what I use my phone for the most and chose the best available. It was free direct from Orange, and had a superb deal with all the bells and whistles on. I even ordered the phone 2 months before it came out, as nothing in the pipeline to come out, or was already out, was as good or better than what I wanted the phone to do.

But then I sat down and looked at what I wanted and chose, instead of buying something that other people had cos they had it.

J4CKO

iTrader: (1)

One thing I like is the fact that no matter who you are, billionaire or otherwise you cant get a btter phone than someone who can spend £500, sometimes less for the latest, ok there are those Verti or whatever but its just some ***** old Nokia with some jewels glued to it, it doesn't have the functionality and it takes a special kind of bellend to buy a jewel encrusted 3310 for 50 grand or whatever just to show your wealth, you can glue what you want to an Iphone as well but its still an Iphone,

Ant

i bought the iphone 2g on release day so tell me how that's copying?

you just sound like a tight ****

Jimbob

iTrader: (13)

Cos all your mates were getting one and you wanted to feel part of the group.
And there was the original iPhone, so you were copying.

Its the people cueing outside Tesco for the Call of Duty game to come out, not because its ground breaking and only available for a short period of time. Its the "Look what I`ve got" mentality, "look at me and give me Kudos", its office mentality meeting the outside world. Extremely sad.

Ant

2g was the first , you clearly don't have a clue do you

Jimbob

iTrader: (13)

I don`t care.
There is a massive difference.

Ant

But care enough to keep posting

Cannon Fodder

iTrader: (100)

I do not Lord it over anyone, if you knew me at all rather than using your Jeremy Kyle like very amateur analysis of people then you would realise that I far from follow the crowd or flock for that matter.

You will learn it time that Google is not the best place for borrowing quotations or even psychiatry.

So if something becomes popular because it is good at what it does then the customers who buy it are following fashion?

Don't talk such absolute twaddle, just because something is in fashion does not make it good agreed but I bought my iPhone 2g, 3g and 4 because they are very good at what I want them to do ie send and receive calls, internet access, email, SMS/MMS, camera, music, mobile gaming, Facebook etc etc.

I have free will and exercised it when I went for any of the iPhone's I have owned, when I was looking at the 4 I also considered a Samsung Galaxy tried it out in store and tried a workmates but decided it wasn't for me as I prefer the iPhone GUI plus it's structure.

As for being human, then who actually confirmed that you are and is a second opinion available?

Pot, kettle and black etc. plus I would have thought given your use of 'lol' you would know how to tell when something is tongue firmly in cheek. lol

Jimbob

iTrader: (13)

Well I was discussing lol.

Hanley

Jimbob

Surely based on the figures it's the Android users who are the sheep?

JackClark

How the tide has turned.

Jimbob

iTrader: (13)

Speak to a few specialists in Morriston Hospital, as they can confirm I have a brain and working quote "Normally" after a MRI a CT and an EEG, a specialist in Singleton Hospital can confirm my head is not up my own ****, as a camera has been exploring as far as my stomach. So more than some can say lmfao.

Back onto topic, watch the up coming programme by Derren Brown as its been known for years that free will is *****. Any psychiatrist will tell you that, Paul McKenna has made his living off it.

Google isn`t an educator Swansea University is on the other hand

The iPhone was sold out before one had even been used, so how is that sold because its good?? Its sold and marketed as a fashion accessory, the odd tagline doesn`t make it great.

For what you need any smart phone will do the job, no one phone will do it a lot better as they are limited by the networks and also current technology. So how can you say that its soooooo much better?? All I say is that a LOT of peope get them as they are following a crowd, and not because its any good, a LOT of people pay a lot of money to do this. Only to then assume that because theirs has a big price tag and a brand associated with "cool" is somehow better.

Most technology is roughly comparable and mostly the same, and occasionally you get a leap forward. The iPhone wasn`t a leap but a step, the leap was made by Nokia the Communicator phones, as they were the start of the smartphone era.


Hmmmmm I try and discuss things but no I apparently am educated by Jeremy Kyle, must be a Chav. All because you cannot find an appropriate way of countering my points without getting chirlish and personal.

Cannon Fodder

iTrader: (100)

You really do need to get over yourself, your points consist of calling iPhone users sheep and mainly telling us all how we shouldn't be fashion victims.

Well going on the figures posted on this thread relating to mobile OS use it would appear that Android users are the new sheep; but as you dismiss all opinions other than your own as dross then there is no discussion as such is there? lol

And for the record the Nokia Communicator may have started the smartphone era but the iPhone popularised and revolutionised the market.

Jimbob

iTrader: (13)

Hmmmm no your wrong again. The trend was to smart phones well before the iPhone, but don`t tll me it was a "Game Changer" lmfao.

Perhaps if you removed your head from your own *** you could see other points of view, but you can`t. And before you try and say pot/kettle, I`m yet to hear any meaningful retort from you other than drivel.

The whole Android thing is much better as its on so many other phones so people have the freedom to choose a particular handset then keep the same o/s, which is true freedom of choice. This coming from a Symbian user who likes Symbian.

I`m NOT a fan of Windows phone, as its not fit for purpose as yet. But with Symbian and Windows joining force this may change.

And the majority of iPhone users are sheep, and bought the phone because of social trends NOT because its any good, and refusing to change as your used to a o/s doesn`t make it any more acceptable.

If the iPhone did something majorly different and better then fair enough, but it doesn`t. So a massive price tag, and loads of hidden costs, softare that is controlling doesn`t float my boat. Yes its pretty, but useability and functionality are more important to me, hence the choice I made.

Not myfault your trying to stay "down wid tha kids" but failing miserably lol.

Anyways I`ve said enough, I`ll leave you to retort in your usual manner, to try and convince yourself that on one level you made a purposeful decison, and on the other to distract yourself from the paradox that you follow the crowd whilst advocating free will.

Spoon

Hi, my name is Jimbob.

DJ_Jon

iTrader: (7)

Jimbob - I can see your point, the Iphone 2g sold out before it even went on sale - to a load of "fashion victims/Sheep" then they released the 3g & again it sold by the bucket load - is this because the iphone is a good bit of kit or because the people buying it have no free will to choose any other phone?

Moving on then, the 3gs is release, again sells out, this is where I decide to start my Apple "shiney shiney" journey & lose free will.. I had HTC windows phones before, the iphone wasn't just better, it was vastly better, it had a capacitive screen, nothing new I grant you, but by christ it actually worked, compared to the HTC resistive screens it was a joy. I wanted to consolidate 2 items into 1 - my phone & my ipod, job jobbed. So After 18 months I buy the iphone 4 - now by this time there are a good few Android phones out there, some very nice handsets, trouble is they are like TV's, too many models & how do you know which one is any good? Well thats where Apple has got the market/marketing right - 1 phone, 1 operating system, you know its going to work, you know its going to be easy to sync stuff (yes I know itunes isn't perfect) & you know your phone isn't going to be out of date in 5 mins (compared to Android handsets that are akin to PC's - you buy the best gaming rig evAr, 1 week later its last years dross)

Oh yea, the depreciation on Apple stuff is good - this is because its quality kit... baaaa etc

Now, after having my iphone for a while I needed a new PC, my old one was dead. I looked at loads of different computers, end result, I ended up with a 27" iMac - not the cheapest, but again, it does everything I need & even runs windows when I need it. 3 Years later, it still frikking works like the day I bought it, no slowdowns, no blue screens of death, no viruses, nothing but a joy to fvcking use. I guarantee if I had bought a windows PC or built one It would be on its last legs by now. I just want a PC that works - I spend all day working with windows machines, coming home to use a mac & my iphone is a pleasure, not a chore.

Android phones are great, strike that, the Android operating system is great, the phones are hit & miss. I will be joining the other sheep tomorrow to buy the iphone 4 S though, I have no free will remember... Apple products, like heroin but actually useful.

Cannon Fodder

iTrader: (100)

You pass off your hair brained ideas as well informed opinion but quite frankly you don't have the slightest clue about what you are talking about.

Whilst you choose to compare the Symbian OS I suppose that anything is better than that out of date, poorly conceived OS and yes I have owned a Symbian powered Nokia and it would only ever be any good as a door stop. I suppose if Windows and Symbian do join forces then your might get an OS which is not nearly as bad as Symbian, as crap plus crap still equals crap.

I can understand other points of view very well, and if they hold merit then I will even change my mind but guess what with yours I just thank SN for this new smilie.

As for the placing of your head I wouldn't recommend sticking it your own **** as quite frankly with a brain the size of yours you will never be able to remove it, but having said that you talk out of your rear end so you may as well store your brain there as well.

And as for Apple controlling the software then I don't mind that, after all better to have QA before release rather than the Android method of QA which occurs only when a user reports a problem. Apple for the record cannot remotely remove software from your iOS products unlike Google who can remove software without your permission.

Carry on convincing yourself that your choice of an N8 means that your a maverick bucking against the tide of consumerism that is the evil Apple Corporation.

As for the Apple iPhone users (also referred to as sheep) we will continue to enjoy our Apple products. I mean imagine Apple designing the software and hardware of a product that the geneal public want to purchase and consume. I wish you well with your N8, and remember don't let the green eyed monster envelop your whole life and effect your obviously good taste.