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Old 03 September 2011, 05:12 AM
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nuff said
Old 03 September 2011, 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Myles
It'll never be held in the same esteem as the RS500, same as the 22B, Integrale, Quattro, M3 E30 either. No pedigree and I dont personally dont think it brings anything new to the table.

I was followed by a white one some time back which booted past me, it looked like a washing machine.
I see the Focus RS 500 in the same light as the original Clio Williams. Arguably the most desirable hot hatch at the moment (at the right price) but long term I see it being worth 10% more than a standard Focus RS, no more.
Old 03 September 2011, 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by paulwrxboro
nuff said
Now that looks really nice
Old 05 September 2011, 12:52 PM
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Mmm, time will tell. I think we are looking at £30k in 3 years time.
Then a slow decline to about £10k over the following 10 years.
Might then start to see values pick up after that, probably.
A 2010 Focus RS in 2023 will be worth about £4k I reckon.

Its hadly an investment, but I dont think its going to drop like a stone.

IMHO!
Old 05 September 2011, 12:58 PM
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Not on the same level obviously !! but seen a one owner 2003 mazda rx8 for sale the other day, full mazda service history and just over 32k on the clock at just £2700.

thats what you call depreciattion !! yet to here off anyone who has kept one for longer than a couple off years at most !!

but yep totally agrea with the above poster re values off the rs in years to come.

dont seem particularly rare the amount you see up for sale ??!!
Old 05 September 2011, 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by chrispy200+
Now that looks really nice
Yep lovely but black ?? never, ever ever again !! not sure iff the matt black off the rs would be any easier either so nope has to be white or... nope deffo not that green colour !!!

must admitt seen a white focus rs with matching white alloys and it actually looked very, very nice !!
Old 05 September 2011, 01:02 PM
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tbh was never gonna hold its value, very poor value for money and sold on its name, not on the car itself. bit like the cosworth sti
Old 05 September 2011, 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Myles
I was followed by a white one some time back which booted past me, it looked like a washing machine.

Old 05 September 2011, 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Myles
I dont know, that is like losing 15k twice. Once when you pay 15k over the odds, then the second time when the furore dies down and the car is worth 35k again. And you still only have a Ford Focus.
How is that like losing it twice? If you pay £50k for something worth £35k, then sell it for £35k, you have still only lost £15k once
Old 05 September 2011, 06:18 PM
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Maybe special numbered ones went for a premium, without the awd/4x4 system it was only ever a posh ST.
Old 05 September 2011, 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Mollymoo666
How is that like losing it twice? If you pay £50k for something worth £35k, then sell it for £35k, you have still only lost £15k once
You pay over the odds by 15k......ONCE, then sell it for 15k less pretty soon after.........TWICE. I said its LIKE losing 15k twice, not actually losing 15k twice.

Do keep up!!
Old 05 September 2011, 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by paulwrxboro
nuff said
Needs a wash, lol

Nice car mate
Old 05 September 2011, 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Tidgy
tbh was never gonna hold its value, very poor value for money and sold on its name, not on the car itself. bit like the cosworth sti

Aye. If it was AWD I think it would have had a stronger following. The crying shame is the chassis IS AWD capeable - you can swing a cat under the rear axle and still have room to store a few illegal immigrants under there ( Its a similar issue with the Scirocco R, but that's for another thread).

This kind of car is never going to be a strong seller especially as its not really adding anything that beneficial over a sorted ST. Its just another special edition.

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Old 05 September 2011, 07:12 PM
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[QUOTE=Anders_WR1 Needs a wash, lol

Nice car mate[/QUOTE]

not mine mate just a pic i seen on RSOC
Old 05 September 2011, 07:34 PM
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Looks so much better without the black stick backed plastic on it !

35 grand was always ambitious for a Focus, however talented, with only 2wd, however effective.
Old 05 September 2011, 07:42 PM
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The last good Ford was the Cosworth. There's been nothing since.
Old 05 September 2011, 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by CREWJ
The last good Ford was the Cosworth. There's been nothing since.
The Mk 1 Focus RS was pretty good, if you knew how to handle the supposed 'torque steer'.
Old 05 September 2011, 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Myles
You pay over the odds by 15k......ONCE, then sell it for 15k less pretty soon after.........TWICE. I said its LIKE losing 15k twice, not actually losing 15k twice.

Do keep up!!
Your logic is ****.

If you pay £50,000 for summat and then sell it for £35,000, you lose £15,000...and that's it. The only thing loosing £15,000 is 'LIKE', is loosing £15,000.
Old 05 September 2011, 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by BOB.T
Your logic is ****.

If you pay £50,000 for summat and then sell it for £35,000, you lose £15,000...and that's it. The only thing loosing £15,000 is 'LIKE', is loosing £15,000.
Its not logic, you plum. If something costs 35k and you pay 15k over the odds for it because you want it, you are in effect throwing away 15k just for wanting it. If you then sell it for 35k (its true worth at sale, before you add your 'I want it' tax), it will feel like losing 30k.
Old 05 September 2011, 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by zip106
The Mk 1 Focus RS was pretty good, if you knew how to handle the supposed 'torque steer'.
Torque steer = flawed. You needed arms of Conan to hold that thing on the road, andarms of Thor if it was mapped.
Old 05 September 2011, 08:50 PM
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I'm off to bang my head on some Titanium, it's LIKE Brick but harder.
Old 05 September 2011, 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by BOB.T
I'm off to bang my head on some Titanium, it's LIKE Brick but harder.
While you are banging, think about this.

I am an ice cream man. I sell 99s for £1. I can see you are well up for a 99 so i decide as I am the only ice cream man round, I will sell it to you for £2. S straight away you have thrown a quid away because you love Mr Whippy.

Then you realise you need a quid for bus fare home (no, you haven't been on Bullseye), and little Tommy, knowing how much you want to go home to use your own toilet, offers you a quid for it. You agree.

So, you blew an extra quid on the 99, so there isa virtual 1 quid loss in your mind, then you sell the ice cream to Tommy for a quid (the one that you value at £2), and there is the real £1 loss.

At least though, you can have a **** at home.
Old 05 September 2011, 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Myles
Its not logic, you plum. If something costs 35k and you pay 15k over the odds for it because you want it, you are in effect throwing away 15k just for wanting it. If you then sell it for 35k (its true worth at sale, before you add your 'I want it' tax), it will feel like losing 30k.
Sorry, I too have to disagree with you. Let me try and explain my way:

The day you buy it: pay £50k, worth £35k, so loose £15k

The day you sell it: worth £35k, receive £35k, loose zero

Net loss £15k
Old 05 September 2011, 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Dave Thornton
Sorry, I too have to disagree with you. Let me try and explain my way:

The day you buy it: pay £50k, worth £35k, so loose £15k

The day you sell it: worth £35k, receive £35k, loose zero

Net loss £15k
Yeah, but do you fancy a 99?

The way I am seeing it in my mind is you physically lose 15k, but in my mind I will also be haunted by the fact I paid 15k over the odds for it in the first place. Please just humour me!
Old 05 September 2011, 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Myles
Yeah, but do you fancy a 99?
Oh OK then. Flake or Saab?
Old 05 September 2011, 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Dave Thornton
Oh OK then. Flake or Saab?
SAAB all the way!
Old 05 September 2011, 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Myles
Yeah, but do you fancy a 99?

The way I am seeing it in my mind is you physically lose 15k, but in my mind I will also be haunted by the fact I paid 15k over the odds for it in the first place. Please just humour me!
You would need humour to pay 50k for that, lol

That company used to be called something else, performance Direct i think, mostly dealt with bmw's.

Obviously RS's make them more money.

do you do ice cream wafers as well?????

Mac
Old 05 September 2011, 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Myles
Yeah, but do you fancy a 99?
Only a Turbo model, first proper nice car I drove as a teenager...

dunx

P.S. I got chased by a "washing machine" and spat dust all over it and ran off laughing... kids today, no respect !

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Old 05 September 2011, 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Myles
Torque steer = flawed. You needed arms of Conan to hold that thing on the road, andarms of Thor if it was mapped.

Like bollox you did!

I must be Charles Atlas then (and I'm not) as I never had a problem with mine.
Yes it torque steered, but no way as bad as some liked to make out.

General journo over-hype.

And mine was Bluefinned.
Old 05 September 2011, 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by zip106
Like bollox you did!

I must be Charles Atlas then (and I'm not) as I never had a problem with mine.
Yes it torque steered, but no way as bad as some liked to make out.

General journo over-hype.

And mine was Bluefinned.
*I don't know if some cars were worse than others, Charles, but I drove an Escort RST which I thought was the worst torque steering car I would ever experience, but a chipped (the description of the mapping by the seller) FRS tried to take me to hell with it a couple of times.

*evo mag seemed to have both our experiences, mine on an early FRS, yours on a later.


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