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Old 24 August 2011, 11:12 AM
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And just for the record me personally I would have the Porsche on my drive all day long..
Old 24 August 2011, 11:14 AM
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Old 24 August 2011, 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Trout
Just as a sensible question - what luxuries does the GTR have that the GT3 doesn't other than rear seats?

I would also be interested in others views who have been in both - the RS is more supple on the road than the GTR - so track oriented yes, road capable, more than?
I'm meant to be heading mates bbq on sat who has one so going to bag a ride and drive then, he's heading to the ring with us in Sept too so will be able to do some comparison
Old 24 August 2011, 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Trout
Just as a sensible question - what luxuries does the GTR have that the GT3 doesn't other than rear seats?

I would also be interested in others views who have been in both - the RS is more supple on the road than the GTR - so track oriented yes, road capable, more than?
This is no dig or anything but I wanted to ask a GT3 owner this question for a while and now is my chance.

You know my history ex GTR master Tech but I used to work for a Porsche specialist years ago too so love both cars.

My question is : Why do all GT3 owners try to compare there car to the standard GTR R35 when it should be compared to the standard 911 turbo ?
Your car is the GT3 RS it should be compared to the GTR V Spec in my eyes, they are based on the same Idea, a track variant of the standard road car, and my point is the V Spec is even quicker than the standard GTR so why always compare the two ??
Old 24 August 2011, 11:21 AM
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Don't know what spec your GT3 RS is, but GTR has useable boot, rear seats, heated electric leather front seats, hard drvie, dual climate control, automatic wipers, auto headlamps, proper interior door handles, enamel badges haha
Old 24 August 2011, 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Cammy5106
My question is : Why do all GT3 owners try to compare there car to the standard GTR R35 when it should be compared to the standard 911 turbo ?
Your car is the GT3 RS it should be compared to the GTR V Spec in my eyes, they are based on the same Idea, a track variant of the standard road car, and my point is the V Spec is even quicker than the standard GTR so why always compare the two ??
Because they struggle with the base model, they wouldn't want to go up against their closer "peer"

Services my point brilliantly though, it is all just one big fillip for the GTR
Old 24 August 2011, 11:26 AM
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Wrote a really sensible decent answer to this and my connection failed - doh!
Old 24 August 2011, 11:31 AM
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Trout, you got the ceramic brakes on yours?
Old 24 August 2011, 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by alloy
Don't know what spec your GT3 RS is, but GTR has useable boot, rear seats, heated electric leather front seats, hard drvie, dual climate control, automatic wipers, auto headlamps, proper interior door handles, enamel badges haha
Some other features I love

Bluetooth
USB
Ability to change the car from road use to track use and back on the fly and with 3 simple buttons.
Coat hooks
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Here is a pic of my old demo



PS I did not own this car Nissan gave me it to me
Old 24 August 2011, 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Cammy5106
Here is a pic of my old demo



PS I did not own this car Nissan gave me it to me
Im in two minds about the car in black, one the one hand it looks mean, on the other though it hides all of its lines.....
Old 24 August 2011, 11:42 AM
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See what your saying but i don't think a picture tells the whole story. If Nissan want to give me a black GTR to help me form an opinion then i guess i'd have to accept
Old 24 August 2011, 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Brun
See what your saying but i don't think a picture tells the whole story. If Nissan want to give me a black GTR to help me form an opinion then i guess i'd have to accept
Old 24 August 2011, 11:46 AM
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Here is mine again next to the M3


I loved them in the red to be honest but the black is a nightmare for paint swirls and scratches but looks good though
Old 24 August 2011, 11:48 AM
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....it's not often an M3 is made to look like a plain reps car like that
Old 24 August 2011, 11:51 AM
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Just to put the cat among the pigeons! Evo COTY past winners:-

Past winners since 1999:

99-Porsche GT3
00-Porsche Turbo
01-Pagani Zonda
02-Acura NSX-R
03-Porsche GT3 s2
04-Porsche (997)Carrera S
05-Ford GT
06-Ferrari 599GTB
07-Porsche GT3RS
08-Nissan GTR
09-Lotus Evora
10-Porsche GT3RS
Old 24 August 2011, 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Brun
....it's not often an M3 is made to look like a plain reps car like that
Exactly my point about the GTR

It's much faster than the M3 too my mates very words that day were " It will need to be some car to beat the speed of the M3 " after he jumped in the drivers seat and we pulled out the drive and he pressed the fun pedal he said " Holly S@$T F@%K me that's much faster than the M3 how much is it I want it " hahaha

So just shows until you have driven one you don't know how quick they can be..

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Old 24 August 2011, 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Myles
Just to put the cat among the pigeons! Evo COTY past winners:-

Past winners since 1999:

99-Porsche GT3
00-Porsche Turbo
01-Pagani Zonda
02-Acura NSX-R
03-Porsche GT3 s2
04-Porsche (997)Carrera S
05-Ford GT
06-Ferrari 599GTB
07-Porsche GT3RS
08-Nissan GTR
09-Lotus Evora
10-Porsche GT3RS
Even greater achievement for the GTR to sway their bias and take a title
Old 24 August 2011, 11:58 AM
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I didn't once contemplate a GT3, it was far more expensive than I could justify, I couldn't fit my work stuff in it, and I don't think it would be the ideal car in a Scottish climate. I did consider the Turbo, it felt smaller and had a much better ride quality, but I was looking at a model coming out of warranty that needed tyres and brakes for more than the price of a new GTR. I would have struggled to get my stuff in it, but it was mainly price vs age vs condition. Track or acceleration times make no odds. I actually find hard braking on the GTR makes it feel a little unstable at the back, and in standing water it is terrible. It is oddly very impressive in the snow, and just damp road it pulls considerable g forces but doesn't feel dramatic, so when it does slide in the wet you are surprised how easily it does so, then you look down and see 0.6g and realise why. In the dry I still reach corners and think I'll fall off yet it still exceeds my expectation as to just how hard you have to fling it about to slide in the dry.

The servicing costs aren't bad at Nobles if you supply your own oil, remind them they are wonderful and negotiate hard.

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Old 24 August 2011, 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by john banks
I didn't once contemplate a GT3, it was far more expensive than I could justify, I couldn't fit my work stuff in it, and I don't think it would be the ideal car in a Scottish climate. I did consider the Turbo, it felt smaller and had a much better ride quality, but I was looking at a model coming out of warranty that needed tyres and brakes for more than the price of a new GTR. I would have struggled to get my stuff in it, but it was mainly price vs age vs condition. Track or acceleration times make no odds. I actually find hard braking on the GTR makes it feel a little unstable at the back, and in standing water it is terrible. It is oddly very impressive in the snow, and just damp road it pulls considerable g forces but doesn't feel dramatic, so when it does slide in the wet you are surprised how easily it does so, then you look down and see 0.6g and realise why. In the dry I still reach corners and think I'll fall off yet it still exceeds my expectation as to just how hard you have to fling it about to slide in the dry.

The servicing costs aren't bad at Nobles if you supply your own oil, remind them they are wonderful and negotiate hard.
And thank the lord you didn't John otherwise COBB and the GTR tuning community wouldn't be where they are now
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Maybe there would be something to stir up the 911 Turbo tuning market instead
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Originally Posted by john banks
Maybe there would be something to stir up the 911 Turbo tuning market instead
I have noticed that although the GTR is absoulutely insanely quick, the owners strive to increase power and driveability. Whereas Porsche change the odd back box but that is about it. Is it the Jap car owner mentality?
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Originally Posted by john banks
Maybe there would be something to stir up the 911 Turbo tuning market instead
Go and wash your mouth out

I remeber the days bugging you about ECUflash with my Evo 9....miss that car!
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Originally Posted by Myles
I have noticed that although the GTR is absoulutely insanely quick, the owners strive to increase power and driveability. Whereas Porsche change the odd back box but that is about it. Is it the Jap car owner mentality?
No Mate its just GTR owners have cash left to spend unlike the now skint Porsche driver after forking out for the car lol
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Originally Posted by alloy
Go and wash your mouth out

I remeber the days bugging you about ECUflash with my Evo 9....miss that car!
Wash your mouth out!
Old 24 August 2011, 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Myles
I have noticed that although the GTR is absoulutely insanely quick, the owners strive to increase power and driveability. Whereas Porsche change the odd back box but that is about it. Is it the Jap car owner mentality?
I guess when it comes down to spending £400 on a y-pipe and £700 on a COBB and you can get at least 15% more power over stock it is a no brainer. Porsche exhaust probably double what the GTR owner can spend and won't yield the same return in performance hike

Originally Posted by Myles
Wash your mouth out!
Miss the scoob too, appeased now?
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Originally Posted by alloy
I guess when it comes down to spending £400 on a y-pipe and £700 on a COBB and you can get at least 15% more power over stock it is a no brainer. Porsche exhaust probably double what the GTR owner can spend and won't yield the same return in performance hike




Miss the scoob too, appeased now?
I am most impressed with the y-pipe mod, probably the first thing I'd do. (going on the Evo reports when they had one)
I feel better now you admit you miss the Scoob. After all, its what we are all here for!!
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To me the Scoob is like Rambo, the Evo is like 007 and the GTR is the Terminator/robo cop/ optims prime 3 way love child
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Originally Posted by alloy
To me the Scoob is like Rambo, the Evo is like 007 and the GTR is the Terminator/robo cop/ optims prime 3 way love child
Who is the giver, Optimus or Robocop?
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Originally Posted by Myles
Who is the giver, Optimus or Robocop?
Enage your brain, clearly optimus


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