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Old 10 August 2011, 03:39 PM
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SocGen been on wires to deny market rumour....they will have to come out with official statement to explain their understanding behind todays move....expect it after the close
Old 10 August 2011, 03:59 PM
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now the rumour is "a french asset manager".....people just guessing and capitalising from the fear that such gossip creates....market manipulation, the regulators really need to nip in the bud...
Old 10 August 2011, 04:01 PM
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I know nothing about buying shares, but BP and HSBC both made good profits recently.
Old 10 August 2011, 04:11 PM
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Bp could be worth it at the moment ?

A good buy as opposed to a good-bye fro 3 months
Old 10 August 2011, 05:41 PM
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Tesco is beginning to look attractive too. Not the best yield in the world, even at this price, but surely still well worth the investment.

Shell coming down into good value territory as well, although I'm reluctant to have too much exposure to oil & gas cos in my portfolio.
Old 10 August 2011, 11:38 PM
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See all the bulls from earlier this morning have drifted quietly away!
Old 10 August 2011, 11:43 PM
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Originally Posted by paulr
I know nothing about buying shares, but BP and HSBC both made good profits recently.
You can make good profits and still have rapidly falling share prices!
Old 11 August 2011, 07:49 AM
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Default Dividends?




Dividends

Latest Previous
Q1 Q4
Ex-Div 05-Oct-11 06-Jul-11
Paid 11-Nov-11 12-Aug-11
Amount 6.50p 6.50p




If this is the information given, is the "ex-div" the date from which you need to hold the shares from? Or do you need to hold them from before the date given?


Thanks..


edit* the copy/paste got muddled, but I'm sure you know what I'm looking at.

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Old 11 August 2011, 08:11 AM
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In the UK companies go ex-div on a Wednesday so you need to own it on the Tuesday night to be entitled to the div
Old 11 August 2011, 08:12 AM
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In the UK dividends are normally paid twice a year, after a company's interim and full-year results. A typical split is one-third at the interim stage and two-thirds at the year-end. Some larger companies pay out dividends each quarter.

When a company publishes its results, normally between one and three months after the end of each half-year period, it will declare how much and when its next dividend payment will be. The exact date of payment will vary from year to year, although last year's payment date should give a rough indication of when you should expect your lolly. When a dividend declaration is made the company will announce three dates alongside the payment. These are the ex-dividend date, record date and payment date.

The first date is when shares go ex-dividend: in other words, only shares bought before this date entitle their owners to that dividend payment. And, as you might expect, on that date the share price generally falls by the amount of the dividend to reflect the fact that any subsequent buyers of the shares aren't entitled to this payout.

The record date (normally a couple of days after the ex-dividend date) is when the company looks at its share registrar and takes the details of everyone who currently owns its shares. On the payment date these are the people that will be sent their dividend payments. Be careful if you do happen to trade in the shares around the ex-dividend date as companies do sometimes make mistakes about who they pay the dividend to. You may need to chase up your broker if you don't receive dividends that you are entitled to.

Note that if you buy the shares between the ex-dividend date and the payment date then you won't be entitled to that dividend. In newspapers this is often denoted by the letters 'XD' (pronounced ex-div) next to the share price. If you sell shares on or after the ex-dividend date you are still entitled to receive that dividend.

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Excellent, thanks guys.
Old 11 August 2011, 08:33 AM
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I see the FTSE is demonstrating that dead cats can bounce today opened a 100 points up as it was dangerously close to the psychological 5,000 mark!
Old 11 August 2011, 08:37 AM
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Did it not start like this yesterday as well. I expected it to drop today looking at what happened to the DJI yesterday.
Old 11 August 2011, 08:43 AM
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On a serious note, RBS look more favourable today down at 24.30 with a 2% stop loss, now that seems favourable risk and reward
Old 11 August 2011, 08:47 AM
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Daughter works for RBS, she is just about to take up the sharesave scheme where the price is set at the average share price of the past 3 days minus 20%. Happy days
Old 11 August 2011, 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Trout
I see the FTSE is demonstrating that dead cats can bounce today opened a 100 points up as it was dangerously close to the psychological 5,000 mark!
Yesterday was pretty much all about that French rumour.....with Fitch, Moodys and S&P all reaffirming the AAA and stable outlook for France after market hours that risk is appeased. It is classic market manipulation, Fed say what they say, BOE say similar tones so how do all the big boys get out of their shorts before the market reaffirms.....create another wave of fear in an already fragile market buy back all their shorts and i think this market has seen it's lows now for the moment IMO we bounce back towards 5380.....volatility will still feature strongly because confidence will remain brittle

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Old 11 August 2011, 08:57 AM
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Well I've just funded my IG account. Oh dear...

Old 11 August 2011, 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by GlesgaKiss
Well I've just funded my IG account. Oh dear...

Leveraged trading in this market....good luck with that
Old 11 August 2011, 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by alloy
Leveraged trading in this market....good luck with that
I'm thinking more along the lines of maximum loss = £5. Just stuck a grand in with the goal of making £50 in a year! Seems reasonable.
Old 11 August 2011, 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by GlesgaKiss
I'm thinking more along the lines of maximum loss = £5. Just stuck a grand in with the goal of making £50 in a year! Seems reasonable.
you're better than that
Old 11 August 2011, 09:15 AM
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300 quid up on Centamin already this morning
Old 11 August 2011, 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by alloy
you're better than that
Aw... shucks, Andrew.

Old 11 August 2011, 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by GlesgaKiss
Aw... shucks, Andrew.

I retract my previous statement....
Old 11 August 2011, 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by alloy
I retract my previous statement....
Haha. On a serious note, where do you get your charts? Bloomberg I'm guessing? Do you find the IG charts largely useless, as they only track their own prices? They're still roughly right, but I don't know if roughly is really good enough. They can put certain things like candle formations and averages quite far out over time.
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Originally Posted by GlesgaKiss
Haha. On a serious note, where do you get your charts? Bloomberg I'm guessing? Do you find the IG charts largely useless, as they only track their own prices? They're still roughly right, but I don't know if roughly is really good enough. They can put certain things like candle formations and averages quite far out over time.
I use Bloomberg, i've used loads of bespoke software but really couldnt use it to extend my edge so was just an unnecessary expense. Haven't ever used IG charts are you on IG Index or IG Markets?
Old 11 August 2011, 10:18 AM
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IG index.
Old 11 August 2011, 10:20 AM
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i think if you use IG Markets they are DMA CFDs so the charts will reflect live market price and data....
Old 11 August 2011, 10:29 AM
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Yeah true. I have a CFD account with someone else so I could just use that.
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These banks are lairy, been in RBS long at 24.30 out at 25, back in at 24.20 stopped out at 23.90 back in at 23.70.....really got to be on the ball if your trading them at the moment!
Old 11 August 2011, 11:37 AM
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24.3 with 2% stop loss would have been triggered I think, sounds like you're busy with it I'm in at 25.5. Had I sold yesterday it would have bought me a new cludgie I think.


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