clocked doing 98mph on the motorway!!
05 August 2011, 11:31 AM
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15yrs ago ish I was caught at an average of 99.5mph over a few miles stretch ... 6pts & a few £'00 was the fine. You'd be well unlucky to get a ban below 100mph imho.
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05 August 2011, 11:38 AM
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Here's a possibly relevant story...
I was caught 56 in a 40 a few years back. Roadside advise was std 60 quid & 3pt's. I was going to Spain in the next fw days so produced and asked the Station lady what to do as I needed my licence to drive there. She said don't pay and send it back and you will have a court summons. Write a letter explaining why and it will would dealt with the same way...
What I was given was 5 pts and £300!
This is because the magistrates have discretion to give out whatever they feel fit, so anything betwen 3 and 6
I was caught 56 in a 40 a few years back. Roadside advise was std 60 quid & 3pt's. I was going to Spain in the next fw days so produced and asked the Station lady what to do as I needed my licence to drive there. She said don't pay and send it back and you will have a court summons. Write a letter explaining why and it will would dealt with the same way...
What I was given was 5 pts and £300!
This is because the magistrates have discretion to give out whatever they feel fit, so anything betwen 3 and 6
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05 August 2011, 12:25 PM
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Here's a possibly relevant story...
I was caught 56 in
a 40 a few years back. Roadside advise was std 60 quid & 3pt's. I was going to Spain in the next fw days so produced and asked the Station lady what to do as I needed my licence to drive there. She said don't pay and send it back and you will have a court summons. Write a letter explaining why and it will would dealt with the same way...
What I was given was 5 pts and £300!
This is because the magistrates have discretion to give out whatever they feel fit, so anything betwen 3 and 6
I was caught 56 in
a 40 a few years back. Roadside advise was std 60 quid & 3pt's. I was going to Spain in the next fw days so produced and asked the Station lady what to do as I needed my licence to drive there. She said don't pay and send it back and you will have a court summons. Write a letter explaining why and it will would dealt with the same way...
What I was given was 5 pts and £300!
This is because the magistrates have discretion to give out whatever they feel fit, so anything betwen 3 and 6
If you are stopped and cant prove you are who you claim to be then a producer is the least of your worries.
05 August 2011, 02:26 PM
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the downside is the points are on your license for FOUR YEARS. 
Only 3 points I got back in May 2007 have only just cleared. Shining license again (for how long god knows, the first 3 point were on my scoob. 76 in a 60)
Only 3 points I got back in May 2007 have only just cleared. Shining license again (for how long god knows, the first 3 point were on my scoob. 76 in a 60)
05 August 2011, 02:30 PM
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they only count towards the totting up procedure for 3 years, 4 years is the time at which you can have them physically removed from your licence.
05 August 2011, 02:35 PM
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Hey don't worry too much, Look North the other night revealed there are people in Bradford and Leeds still driving with 20 points on their licenses! One owned an I.T. firm employing 6 people, he told the court without his license not only would his business suffer but also all the people who worked for him. Court let him off and he is still driving...who insured him with that many points i have no idea.
05 August 2011, 02:53 PM
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Have a word here http://www.5ive-o.org/forum/forum.php these guys are traffic policemen and magistrates, they are not their too judge but to give you information that may help you in a case like this.
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05 August 2011, 04:11 PM
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Send them a letter saying you have no idea who it was and that it most definatly was not you as you were no where near that road at the time and all that you can think is that someone must have cloned your car.
It's got to be worth a punt you have nothing to lose so give it a try.
If the worst comes to the worst you get what you would have got in the first place so alls well that ends well.
It's got to be worth a punt you have nothing to lose so give it a try.
If the worst comes to the worst you get what you would have got in the first place so alls well that ends well.
05 August 2011, 04:39 PM
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I like your style but...... I was caught doing 68 in a 50 two ish years ago. I responded with i can not remember who was driving at the time of the alleged offence as it could have been one of three drivers.. Simples right, wrong!!! Copper said as the driver of the vehicle it was my responsibility to know who drives my car at all times, subsequently i was not acting with good due diligence to find out who was driving.. My case goes to court i get 6 points and a £600 pound fine. good news is i still have not be done for speeding, Money grabbing barstuerds if you can fight them go for it, you do however have my sympathy. good luck to all as the motorist is a very well hunted animal 
Firstly as the Registered keeper you have to meet certain condition if sent a S172 notice. You dont need to know who was driving at any given point whilst the car is not in your possession.
Secondly its not due diligence, it is reasonable diligence, which is completely different in level of action . If you check the RTA & RTOA, you will find that its says 'reasonable'.
Your best bet in fighting unjust actions is to join pepipoo.com. They will help sort out the misinformation and lies touted by the police/safety partnerships.
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05 August 2011, 05:04 PM
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August 2005 joining the motorway I got pulled for doing three figures as I pulled out in front of an unmarked car, not the smartest thing to do, and tbh I have done some serious growing up since 
I sweet talked them down to a two figure speed, got a producer, slap on the wrist, 3 points, with £60 fine.
To say I was only too happy to get of lightly is an understatement. Never been pulled over or caught for speed since (touch wood).
I would admit liabilty mate if it was me, ok ignore the letter once if you like, but im guessing its all automated by now so they will catch up with you.
Now this is truth having done a company defender driving course, Gatso's and road side camera vans only use half of the pictures they take as they havent the resources to process them all, this was from a study 2 years ago, things have probably changed since then.
Rob
I sweet talked them down to a two figure speed, got a producer, slap on the wrist, 3 points, with £60 fine.
To say I was only too happy to get of lightly is an understatement. Never been pulled over or caught for speed since (touch wood).
I would admit liabilty mate if it was me, ok ignore the letter once if you like, but im guessing its all automated by now so they will catch up with you.
Now this is truth having done a company defender driving course, Gatso's and road side camera vans only use half of the pictures they take as they havent the resources to process them all, this was from a study 2 years ago, things have probably changed since then.
Rob
09 August 2011, 12:40 PM
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Last week, 40 in a 30. So looking at 3 points and £60. But I am doing a speed awareness course witch cost just over £80 but now no fine and no points. Just 4 hours ish of saying "I won't do it again"
09 August 2011, 05:14 PM
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09 August 2011, 08:09 PM
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i was stopped by a unmarked police car on the M11 in April he said he clocked me at 95 mph but let me of with a warning as he thought it was not excessive these days in modern cars on motorways. he said i was lucky i was not stopped by the white cap traffic police as they are @ss H@les, his words not mine.
my father ignored a speeding ticket for doing 57 in a 50 average speed zone on the A127 southend and eventually they stopped, he heard nothing for 4 months now
my father ignored a speeding ticket for doing 57 in a 50 average speed zone on the A127 southend and eventually they stopped, he heard nothing for 4 months now
09 August 2011, 08:20 PM
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09 August 2011, 08:41 PM
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Unless you absolutely know you were not traveling at the speed alleged and have evidence to support this, or can be 100% confident a loophole does exist I'd be taking the slap on the wrist and accepting it.
In fact I'm not sure I'd even want to go down the loop hole route if I knew I'd broken the law (speeding or other) and could not morally justify doing so to myself. Too many people are happy to find loopholes and wriggle their way out of things for what they believe are arbitrary laws covering petty offenses. They'd be the same people up in arms if someone broke the law damaging them in some way and got off due to a loophole. They'd be moaning from here to eternity about 'loopholes' then
In fact I'm not sure I'd even want to go down the loop hole route if I knew I'd broken the law (speeding or other) and could not morally justify doing so to myself. Too many people are happy to find loopholes and wriggle their way out of things for what they believe are arbitrary laws covering petty offenses. They'd be the same people up in arms if someone broke the law damaging them in some way and got off due to a loophole. They'd be moaning from here to eternity about 'loopholes' then
09 August 2011, 08:50 PM
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I'm not trying to get out with a loop hole. It is what I was told by the police. Been driving 20 years and never had any points and I am a biker to. So I see no harm in doing a speed awareness course for an extra £20 to keep my lience clean. Why not take them up on the offer, if I get that offer of course?
09 August 2011, 08:58 PM
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I'm not trying to get out with a loop hole. It is what I was told by the police. Been driving 20 years and never had any points and I am a biker to. So I see no harm in doing a speed awareness course for an extra £20 to keep my lience clean. Why not take them up on the offer, if I get that offer of course?
10 August 2011, 11:37 AM
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i was stopped by a unmarked police car on the M11 in April he said he clocked me at 95 mph but let me of with a warning as he thought it was not excessive these days in modern cars on motorways. he said i was lucky i was not stopped by the white cap traffic police as they are @ss H@les, his words not mine.
my father ignored a speeding ticket for doing 57 in a 50 average speed zone on the A127 southend and eventually they stopped, he heard nothing for 4 months now
my father ignored a speeding ticket for doing 57 in a 50 average speed zone on the A127 southend and eventually they stopped, he heard nothing for 4 months now
10 August 2011, 01:24 PM
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A lot of the fines and points on this post must have been a while ago as the penalties have gone up.
In Jun-10 I was caught doing 97mph on a dual carriageway, 27mph above limit.
Went to court at the end of Sep-10 IIRC.
They seem to have a strict template of how the fine is calculated.
Basically it's a weeks wages, court fees plus some donation to victims of crime fund.
Best bet, you plead gulity you get a 20% discount WTF!!!
Anyway got the fine as calculated and 6 points on my license.
But I can look on the bright side, the Police do a good job, look at London PMSL! Too busy getting the easy convictions.
In Jun-10 I was caught doing 97mph on a dual carriageway, 27mph above limit.
Went to court at the end of Sep-10 IIRC.
They seem to have a strict template of how the fine is calculated.
Basically it's a weeks wages, court fees plus some donation to victims of crime fund.
Best bet, you plead gulity you get a 20% discount WTF!!!
Anyway got the fine as calculated and 6 points on my license.
But I can look on the bright side, the Police do a good job, look at London PMSL! Too busy getting the easy convictions.
10 August 2011, 01:33 PM
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plus that's only if your offered the course, they don't have to do that either, it's down to their discretion.Tony
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