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Old Jun 21, 2011 | 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by pinkypurkhardt
tell that to vietnam and the russians in afghan
here are afew more

Eight major wars were lost by the power that enjoyed air superiority:

1937-1945 Second Sino-Japanese War
1939 Soviet-Japanese Border War (Japanese air superiority was probably limited to air combat superiority)
1939-1940 Winter War
1954-1962 Algerian War of Independence
1959-1979 Vietnam War
1964-1979 Rhodesian Bush War (much more than a civil war)
1965-1989 South African Border War
1979-1989 Soviet invasion of Afghanistan
The next time you are trying to find some kind of significant shelter from the enemy ground attack aircraft taking you apart, you tell me how important air superiority really is!

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Old Jun 21, 2011 | 10:07 PM
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well i have watched the taliban do it and it dont seem to phase them
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Old Jun 21, 2011 | 10:50 PM
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Originally Posted by ^Qwerty^
The Ascension Islands are British as far as I know, so they would be still available. But available for what is the big question? I could only see them as a stop off point for supply aircraft to refuel, so if we lost the Islands that would be it, game over, we have no way of taking them back.

In terms of the Black Buck missions, from what I've read, their success was more to do with the Argentinians realising we could bomb their home land, rather than bombing the Falklands themselves?

If you've not read the book, Vulcan 607 make sure you do. It's an amazing story.
Correct, the one big thing the Argentinians were really scared of was a single, quick and effective nuclear strike on their Capital. They really believed it was a likely event. But then Maggie, over lunch one day decided to take a cruiser with all hands.. end of the Naval war, then our chaps ended the ground war..



No points for the song reference by the way
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Old Jun 22, 2011 | 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by pinkypurkhardt
well i have watched the taliban do it and it dont seem to phase them
They have a death wish!

How many of your mob have done a bit of suicide bombing?

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Old Jun 22, 2011 | 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by what would scooby do
Correct, the one big thing the Argentinians were really scared of was a single, quick and effective nuclear strike on their Capital. They really believed it was a likely event. But then Maggie, over lunch one day decided to take a cruiser with all hands.. end of the Naval war, then our chaps ended the ground war..



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Just for interest, the round trip from Ascension to the Falklands took some 14 hours. You can take my word for it that was a very uncomfortable and painful experience.

The inflight refuelling was incredibly complicated by the Victors and the modified Vulcans, but with a broken fuel receive nozzle as did happen in one case, they had a very difficult time to find somewhere to land because it was not possible to reach Ascension.

This should reveal how difficult it would be now to threaten the Argentines with significant reparation should they try it on.

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Old Jun 22, 2011 | 06:28 PM
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Send a sub up rio de la plata they will soon shut up
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Old Jun 22, 2011 | 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Leslie
They have a death wish!

How many of your mob have done a bit of suicide bombing?

Les
i asure you most dont, it works the same way when our troops come under mortar and rocket attacks you go to ground until bombardment stops then you crack on
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Old Jun 23, 2011 | 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by pinkypurkhardt
i asure you most dont, it works the same way when our troops come under mortar and rocket attacks you go to ground until bombardment stops then you crack on
Yes I understand your point, but the fact is, air superiority does make an immense difference to the ability to win with the least casualties on your own side.

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