Head of IMF : Sex Charge : Why?
17 May 2011, 09:05 AM
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Too many vested intersts in this, at one point he 'fled to the airport' not even stopping for his phone, Then it is alleged that he actually phoned the hotel and asked them to send his phone to the airport, thats how the police knew where he was. He apparently raped this woman, went to lunch with a friend then headed off to the airport. Whole thing seems odd, he is either innocent or a complete sociopath who needs to be locked up for a long time. The issue I have is that the IMF has had a political agenda for years and its main job has been to force struggling nations to accept free market economics.
With him being a socialist both Sarkozy and the Yanks have a very strong interest in getting rid of him.
With him being a socialist both Sarkozy and the Yanks have a very strong interest in getting rid of him.
17 May 2011, 09:13 AM
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Too many vested intersts in this, at one point he 'fled to the airport' not even stopping for his phone, Then it is alleged that he actually phoned the hotel and asked them to send his phone to the airport, thats how the police knew where he was. He apparently raped this woman, went to lunch with a friend then headed off to the airport. Whole thing seems odd, he is either innocent or a complete sociopath who needs to be locked up for a long time. The issue I have is that the IMF has had a political agenda for years and its main job has been to force struggling nations to accept free market economics.
With him being a socialist both Sarkozy and the Yanks have a very strong interest in getting rid of him.
With him being a socialist both Sarkozy and the Yanks have a very strong interest in getting rid of him.
As much as there are many people who would like to see him out of action, I still find it hard to think he is innocent. However I can also see it from both sides, DNA evidence does not prove it was rape, it just proves that they did have sex.
I would have thought that a naked man terrorising a woman in the hallways of a new York hotel might have been seen or heard by someone or caught on CCTV?
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17 May 2011, 09:20 AM
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But I still think it's going to be a difficult case to prove. Rape cases usually are, especially under these circumstances. It a simple case of one word against another, unless there can be other evidence to actually prove he did it.
I will be suprised if they convict him 'because she said so'.
17 May 2011, 09:23 AM
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He allegedly attempted to rape his daughters best friend nine years ago, and another journalist has described a physically aggressive 'chatting up'. Like Tiger I am sure there is plenty more to come!
17 May 2011, 09:32 AM
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I hope he goes down. He obviously deserves it.
17 May 2011, 09:32 AM
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Yes, exactly, he has a history of this type of behaviour.
But I still think it's going to be a difficult case to prove. Rape cases usually are, especially under these circumstances. It a simple case of one word against another, unless there can be other evidence to actually prove he did it.
I will be suprised if they convict him 'because she said so'.
But I still think it's going to be a difficult case to prove. Rape cases usually are, especially under these circumstances. It a simple case of one word against another, unless there can be other evidence to actually prove he did it.
I will be suprised if they convict him 'because she said so'.
Remember the prosecution just have to convince a jury, it's not an scientific exercise in 100% proof.
17 May 2011, 09:48 AM
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Yes that's how it works, let's hope it's all done properly, no bribes etc.
17 May 2011, 10:00 AM
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when boiled down -- it looks like
big powerfull man forces himself one young attractive powerless girl
like so many brought down by hubris -- I suspect he just assumed he would get away with it
it looks like he has done in the past
big powerfull man forces himself one young attractive powerless girl
like so many brought down by hubris -- I suspect he just assumed he would get away with it
it looks like he has done in the past
17 May 2011, 10:07 AM
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Which is completely insane. I have no idea how anyone can think they have so much power as to do that and not get caught. Or to think it doesn't matter if you get caught. You can do that if you run a cartel and you are in a friendly location, not the head of the IMF in a hotel.
On the other hand it IS easy to set up a big powerful man, as arrogance naturally assumes that the attractive young girl wants him ...
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On the other hand it IS easy to set up a big powerful man, as arrogance naturally assumes that the attractive young girl wants him ...
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17 May 2011, 03:54 PM
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The latest is that this is not the first chambermaid in that hotel - they just cover it up. A little gift and move on.
This is going to be a very big smear on the French - where the cinq a sept culture has been prevalent so long - but a serial sexual harrasser/assaulter being uncovered in such high office is not as acceptable.
This is going to be a very big smear on the French - where the cinq a sept culture has been prevalent so long - but a serial sexual harrasser/assaulter being uncovered in such high office is not as acceptable.
17 May 2011, 04:01 PM
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a few weeks ago DSK said in an interview to French press that he could be the victim of a honey trap in which his political opposition may bride a woman to claim she was raped.....
On a side note- i have a french consultant and he was nosing around yesterday and said this sort of behaviour in France is less serious than a speeding ticket.....now that was obviously said slightly tongue in cheek but he did conclude that it was very much only a mister meaner....pretty shocking!
On a side note- i have a french consultant and he was nosing around yesterday and said this sort of behaviour in France is less serious than a speeding ticket.....now that was obviously said slightly tongue in cheek but he did conclude that it was very much only a mister meaner....pretty shocking!
18 May 2011, 05:56 PM
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Either was this stinks for France.
A) He did it and the French political system and media are complicit in covering his tracks...
B) He was set up and the French political systems stinks...
A) He did it and the French political system and media are complicit in covering his tracks...
B) He was set up and the French political systems stinks...
18 May 2011, 06:05 PM
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18 May 2011, 06:21 PM
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18 May 2011, 07:27 PM
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In developing nations the free market does not work it destroys the economy and leads to MASSIVE gaps between rich and poor. Besides the point that America pescribes far stricter free market terms on other nations than it is prepared to swallow for itself.
18 May 2011, 08:51 PM
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I don't doubt people in the Sarkozy camp must be loving it, but then again you could hardly expect them not to.
18 May 2011, 08:54 PM
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Capitalism is a churning force, it's dynamic....old elites and economic orders go down.
The only alternative to that is state planning and that fails again and again.
Besides your primitivist utopias never existed. Look at say the feudal systems in India etc, you had huge gaps between rich and poor.
18 May 2011, 09:14 PM
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That is just leftist propaganda.
Capitalism is a churning force, it's dynamic....old elites and economic orders go down.
The only alternative to that is state planning and that fails again and again.
Besides your primitivist utopias never existed. Look at say the feudal systems in India etc, you had huge gaps between rich and poor.
Capitalism is a churning force, it's dynamic....old elites and economic orders go down.
The only alternative to that is state planning and that fails again and again.
Besides your primitivist utopias never existed. Look at say the feudal systems in India etc, you had huge gaps between rich and poor.
what about corporatism?
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18 May 2011, 09:30 PM
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Free trade enriches as history shows.
18 May 2011, 10:39 PM
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Back to DSK. Looks like if he's been set-up then someone has done a very good job .... http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/i...uJ14RHw1434HvJ ...
" ... The IMF chief's alleged sex-assault victim lives in a Bronx apartment rented exclusively for adults with HIV or AIDS, The Post has learned. ..."
For those wondering about CCTV ... "... Hotel video cameras show the maid running from his room after the alleged attack, which occurred after noon, and into the maid service area on the floor, one source said. ..."
Hmmm. Gets more interesting/furtive/sordid/demeaning(*) by the minute ....
Dave
* - depending on your point of view ...
" ... The IMF chief's alleged sex-assault victim lives in a Bronx apartment rented exclusively for adults with HIV or AIDS, The Post has learned. ..."
For those wondering about CCTV ... "... Hotel video cameras show the maid running from his room after the alleged attack, which occurred after noon, and into the maid service area on the floor, one source said. ..."
Hmmm. Gets more interesting/furtive/sordid/demeaning(*) by the minute ....
Dave
* - depending on your point of view ...