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Old May 4, 2011 | 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by WildPikey
Where are the engine failures then


If you read back through all my posts on this thread you will not find one mention of engine failures from me.

As I clearly said earlier in the thread (post 151 I think) VTA DVs can lead to problems such as poor idling, lumpy running, misfiring, poor performance and bad MPG and that this evidence was available via the search.

You said it wasn't, I proved you wrong so why not leave it there as you are really beginning to embarrass yourself now.
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Old May 4, 2011 | 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan


If you read back through all my posts on this thread you will not find one mention of engine failures from me.

As I clearly said earlier in the thread (post 151 I think) VTA DVs can lead to problems such as poor idling, lumpy running, misfiring, poor performance and bad MPG and that this evidence was available via the search.

You said it wasn't, I proved you wrong so why not leave it there as you are really beginning to embarrass yourself now.

No I think you need to go back and read through the posts, I never once said that ALL VTA dump valves work perfectly, I have said time and time again that people should be helpfull and tell people about the ones that work and don't work and I also keep asking people who say they cause engine damage to please kindly show me some proof, I'm not sure where your going with your replies to me but you keep saying the same thing over and over and I never had any debate about SOME certain dump valves causing problems, I only ever disputed the fact that NOT ALL dump valves cause problems and that people should not tell others they will cause engine failure if there is no proof, Why is it so difficult for you and the others to understand this, You embarrass yourself, Not me
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Old May 4, 2011 | 09:44 PM
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As usual same old same old.

Spelling / text speak police taking a thread off topic and dare i say it becoming little more than troll's.

Back on topic, IM AN ADDICT, to the sounds that my car makes that is, it had a vta on it when i bought it, and guess what "I LIKE IT" there i said it out loud i'm a chav and i'm proud.

And i'm having a simtec fitted next week and guess what i'm having anti-lag and launch control
And i really could not give a flying **** what anyone thinks about me in my chav chariot driving down the road with my sub booming dump valve wooshing exhaust popping and banging and flames shooting out the back

I'll be grinning like a cheshire cat felling like i'm giving it large on the WRC

Thats why most of us buy these gas guzzeling money pits.

TO ENJOY
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Old May 4, 2011 | 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by WildPikey
No I think you need to go back and read through the posts, I never once said that ALL VTA dump valves work perfectly, I have said time and time again that people should be helpfull and tell people about the ones that work and don't work and I also keep asking people who say they cause engine damage to please kindly show me some proof, I'm not sure where your going with your replies to me but you keep saying the same thing over and over and I never had any debate about SOME certain dump valves causing problems, I only ever disputed the fact that NOT ALL dump valves cause problems and that people should not tell others they will cause engine failure if there is no proof, Why is it so difficult for you and the others to understand this, You embarrass yourself, Not me
No, sorry but you are furiously back pedalling now.

Here is what I said:

Originally Posted by f1_fan
As I said twice already on this thread if you just do a search you will find a myriad of posts regarding VTA DVs and various aspects of poor running....
Here is your reply:

Originally Posted by WildPikey
Have done a search many times as I keep getting told there are lot's of threads regarding VTA dump valves and funnily enough there isn't
You clearly replied to my post saying what I said wasn't true and there were no threads of that nature.

So I showed you that there were and your assertion was in fact completely wrong.

Now you are still going on about engine failures despite the fact I have pointed out to you I never once mentioned engine failures

Please just stop replying and let it go as you know what they say.... when you are in a hole you sould stop digging!

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Old May 4, 2011 | 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
No, sorry but you are furiously back pedalling now.

Here is what I said:



Here is your reply:



You clearly replied to my post saying what I said wasn't true and there were no threads of that nature.

So I showed you that there were and your assertion was in fact completely wrong.

Now you are still going on about engine failures despite the fact I have pointed out to you I never once mentioned engine failures

Please just stop replying and let it go as you know what they say.... when you are in a hole you sould stop digging!
Yes you should definately stop digging and you really really need to go back and read my posts aswell as yours as I have never debated the fact that SOME vta dump valves may cause problems, I have said this time and time again but you deliberately ignore the facts You replied to my post where I was asking for proof of engine failures with a load of tosh about some certain 'NOT ALL' vta dump valves that have caused problems, Your going on and on and on about something which I wasn't talking about to start with Read my posts properly and you will find that half the time what I was saying wasn't even relevant to you, It might help if you get someone to read my posts to you and expalin this better

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Old May 4, 2011 | 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by WildPikey
Yes you should definately stop digging You replied to my post where I was asking for proof of engine failures with a load of tosh about some certain 'NOT ALL' vta dump valves that have caused problems, Your going on and on and on about something which I wasn't talking about to start with Read my posts properly and you will find that half the time what I was saying wasn't even relevant to you, It might help if you get someone to read my posts to you and expalin this better


You actually said

Originally Posted by WildPikey
Just in general! I look at these threads quite often in the hope of someone providing some proof of what is preached about dump valves'
What is preached about VTA dump valves is they cause many Scoobs to run badly .... oh sod it... it's not worth it. You're just going to come up with some more excuses so bollocks to it

VTA DVs are cool, they are the best thing for your Scoob... get one now... no in fact get two and stick the other one up your **** so when you talk it will make that lovely whooshing noise

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Old May 4, 2011 | 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan


You actually said



What is preached about VTA dump valves is they cause many Scoobs to run badly .... oh sod it... it's not worth it. You're just going to come up with some more excuses so bollocks to it

VTA DVs are cool, they are the best thing for your Scoob... get one now... no in fact get two and stick the other one up your **** so when you talk it will make that lovely whooshing noise
Yayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy, Thank ****!! Finally you have realised there is no getting through to this guy!

He's been on here since last November so obviously he knows better than everybody else!
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Old May 4, 2011 | 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan


You actually said



What is preached about VTA dump valves is they cause many Scoobs to run badly .... oh sod it... it's not worth it. You're just going to come up with some more excuses so bollocks to it

VTA DVs are cool, they are the best thing for your Scoob... get one now... no in fact get two and stick the other one up your **** so when you talk it will make that lovely whooshing noise

I'm not going to come up with anything other than the truth, I did say that yes but your taking it out of context and you know this, I was referring to the people who say they cause engine failures But you know this and still want to keep on about the fact that SOME dump valves cause problems Not all which is what you were implying to start with, I don't have a problem with people who run dump valves, You still deliberately ignore most of what I have said just so you can pick an argument and try to make yourself feel better by gettin one over on someone, Well it won't work with me and I'll keep on for as long as you do, I notice you have gone from implying all vta dump valves cause problems to now saying they "cause many scoobs to run badly" This was my point from the beginning and this was also made clear in the majority of my replies to you, Anyone who bothers to read this whole thread will infact see wat I mean, You just want to argue and have no case except you don't like dump valves, The argument never was about SOME causing running problems, I'm not sayin "oh sod it" I'm enjoying myself
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Old May 4, 2011 | 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by RA Dunk
Yayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy, Thank ****!! Finally you have realised there is no getting through to this guy!

He's been on here since last November so obviously he knows better than everybody else!

Why does it matter how long I have been on here for, You obviously have no experience working with engines since before you joined either then Your just another one who obviously doesn't have a very satisfying life and feels the need to try and belittle others when infact what you are saying isn't correct, I have never said I think I know better than anyone but I know there are VTA dump valves on peoples cars that aren't and haven't caused any issues and if you know of one that's caused an engine failure then show me the proof

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Old May 4, 2011 | 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by WildPikey
Why does it matter how long I have been on here for Your just another one who obviously doesn't have a very satisfying life and feels the need to try and belittle others when infact what you are saying isn't correct, I have never said I think I know better than anyone but I know there are VTA dump valves on peoples cars that aren't and haven't caused any issues and if you know of one that's caused an engine failure then show me the proof
your right again, you really are some guy for one guy!
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Old May 4, 2011 | 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by WildPikey
I'm not going to come up with anything other than the truth, I did say that yes but your taking it out of context and you know this, I was referring to the people who say they cause engine failures But you know this and still want to keep on about the fact that SOME dump valves cause problems Not all which is what you were implying to start with, I don't have a problem with people who run dump valves, You still deliberately ignore most of what I have said just so you can pick an argument and try to make yourself feel better by gettin one over on someone, Well it won't work with me and I'll keep on for as long as you do, I notice you have gone from implying all vta dump valves cause problems to now saying they "cause many scoobs to run badly" This was my point from the beginning and this was also made clear in the majority of my replies to you, Anyone who bothers to read this whole thread will infact see wat I mean, You just want to argue and have no case except you don't like dump valves, The argument never was about SOME causing running problems, I'm not sayin "oh sod it" I'm enjoying myself
Sorry all I can hear is a load of whooshing noises
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Old May 4, 2011 | 10:56 PM
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Originally Posted by RA Dunk
your right again, you really are some guy for one guy!
Originally Posted by f1_fan
Sorry all I can hear is a load of whooshing noises

Is that the best you can do? I expected more but I suppose at the end of the day all you have are your opinions
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Old May 4, 2011 | 11:07 PM
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VTA all the way!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old May 5, 2011 | 08:33 AM
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60 posts ago i asked why a BOV needed a remap, yet the wealth of knowledge has not answered, rather just get ino arguments.....i thought htis was a friendly place, maybe i'm wrong?
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Old May 5, 2011 | 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Pack_Scoob
60 posts ago i asked why a BOV needed a remap, yet the wealth of knowledge has not answered, rather just get ino arguments.....i thought htis was a friendly place, maybe i'm wrong?
Lack of air being passed back from the intercooler to the inlet? Therefore potential to run rich when coming off boost, causing unburnt fuel to run down through the exhaust, making those pops, bangs and occasional flames?

I had a VTA on mine for about a year. Loved it. Put the standard recirc on not too long ago, and it made everything feel smoother, no back firing, slightly better MPG etc.
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Old May 5, 2011 | 08:49 AM
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Nice and easy, thanks!
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Old May 5, 2011 | 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Pack_Scoob
60 posts ago i asked why a BOV needed a remap, yet the wealth of knowledge has not answered, rather just get ino arguments.....i thought htis was a friendly place, maybe i'm wrong?
Friendly place thats a lie and a slur on the snet community
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Old May 5, 2011 | 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
get two and stick the other one up your **** so when you talk it will make that lovely whooshing noise
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Old May 5, 2011 | 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Pack_Scoob
60 posts ago i asked why a BOV needed a remap, yet the wealth of knowledge has not answered, rather just get ino arguments.....i thought htis was a friendly place, maybe i'm wrong?
Your question was answered in post 31, try reading the thread
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Old May 5, 2011 | 10:25 AM
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Right, here's my 2 pence worth!


Here's a car driving witrh a DV

''bbbbrrrrrrruuuuuuuummmmmm (Gear change) cuntsssssssss, bbbbrrrrrrruuuuuummmmmm cuntssssssssss, bbbrrrrrrrruuuuummmmm cuntsssss''

And so on!







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Genius

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Old May 5, 2011 | 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by LeeP
Lack of air being passed back from the intercooler to the inlet? Therefore potential to run rich when coming off boost, causing unburnt fuel to run down through the exhaust, making those pops, bangs and occasional flames?

I had a VTA on mine for about a year. Loved it. Put the standard recirc on not too long ago, and it made everything feel smoother, no back firing, slightly better MPG etc.
Doesn't a re-circ empty the intercooler of air? Or does most of the compressed air shoot straight back through the turbo and fill the intercooler up again?
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Originally Posted by bugeyejohn
Friendly place thats a lie and a slur on the snet community
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Old May 5, 2011 | 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Will
Right, here's my 2 pence worth!


Here's a car driving witrh a DV

''bbbbrrrrrrruuuuuuuummmmmm (Gear change) cuntsssssssss, bbbbrrrrrrruuuuuummmmmm cuntssssssssss, bbbrrrrrrrruuuuummmmm cuntsssss''

And so on!






I take it you have one then
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Old May 5, 2011 | 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
Your question was answered in post 31, try reading the thread
Post 31 relates to a specific BOV that claims to NOT require a remap, how ever you guys say they would all need a remap! so which is it?
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Originally Posted by Pack_Scoob
Post 31 relates to a specific BOV that claims to NOT require a remap, how ever you guys say they would all need a remap! so which is it?
The first part of the quote relates to a Perrin DV that is a recirc DV hence why it does not require a remap... it works on the same principle as the OEM DV. Here is that part of the post:

Originally Posted by Post 31
For clients that demand idle quality, and the best in drivability we offer a fully recirculated BOV. Like the stock BOV, the PERRIN recirc BOV keeps the vented air in the intake system to keep the ECU happy and running smooth.
The second part of the post talks about VTA DVs in general and explains why they often cause running issues and hence why in order to use one remapping the car might be the sensible thing to do. Here it is:

Originally Posted by Post 31
BOVs that vent to atmosphere can run rich between shifts causing backfires, can cause idle issues, and part throttle drivability on cars that have MAF sensors. This is due to metered air,the ECU thinks is being ingested by the engine, being expelled to the atmosphere. Popular cars with MAF sensors, are all Subaru WRX, STI,Legacy GT, Forester
There we go
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Perfect, wasnt hard was it?
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i like my d/v

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Genius

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Originally Posted by Pack_Scoob
I take it you have one then
Nope
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Originally Posted by Pack_Scoob
Perfect, wasnt hard was it?
Not for me, for you however the jury is most deifnitely out
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