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Old Nov 26, 2012 | 02:02 PM
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WTF
Good luck pressing the brake pedal with that mess
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I'll keep you posted.
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Old Nov 26, 2012 | 02:55 PM
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Who drilled those discs, Stevie Wonder??? I've seen less wholes in a dart board

That is trully shocking. Your just asking for the disc to snap, If I was you I would just start again or bite the bullet and buy the correct ones

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Old Nov 26, 2012 | 10:45 PM
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Who drilled those discs, Stevie Wonder??? I've seen less wholes in a dart board

That is trully shocking. Your just asking for the disc to snap, If I was you I would just start again or bite the bullet and buy the correct ones

dont be silly fella stevie was on a day off ray charles did them,


please please dont fit those fella,

either never use your car again or ring godspeed or as performance and get the right parts fitted, if you have an accident how on earth would you explian that away?

nobody likes paying out for things but that kind of thing is just crazy imho,
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Old Nov 27, 2012 | 07:28 PM
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...explain what?
the whole kit was never road legal,
As it turns out Prodrive never made an effort to homologate it for road use,so a car fitted with this kit makes it MOT fail and in case of a lethal traffic accident a major problem, even when bought at and installed by an official subaru dealer.
This statement comes from the BeLux main aftersales person,Mr.François Demaret.



So I'm scrapping everything....the end

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Old Nov 27, 2012 | 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by gunman-13
...explain what?
the whole kit was never road legal,
As it turns out Prodrive never made an effort to homologate it for road use,so a car fitted with this kit makes it MOT fail and in case of a lethal traffic accident a major problem, even when bought at and installed by an official subaru dealer.
This statement comes from the BeLux main aftersales person,Mr.François Demaret.



So I'm scrapping everything....the end

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Old Nov 28, 2012 | 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by gunman-13
...explain what?
the whole kit was never road legal,
As it turns out Prodrive never made an effort to homologate it for road use,so a car fitted with this kit makes it MOT fail and in case of a lethal traffic accident a major problem, even when bought at and installed by an official subaru dealer.
This statement comes from the BeLux main aftersales person,Mr.François Demaret.



So I'm scrapping everything....the end
What on earth are you talking about ??

This kit does not have to be homologated to use on the road , homologation is only for parts used on the rally cars , its has nothing whatsoever to do with road cars , or parts , the kit is road legal and is perfectly safe to use.

What you have done to bodge those discs onto your car however is certainly not safe to use and should never ever be anywhere near a public road !

Whats going to be your next move , put some grooves in with an axe ??!!

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Old Nov 28, 2012 | 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by gunman-13
have I been busy during the weekend ...?

see the result and decide yourself!





so, the pads fit, and the discs are redrilled...

still to follow : a new coat of paint & stickers...on the calipers,of course.
and then...fitting all of it.
Do not fit these discs. An accident waiting to happen.
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Old Dec 4, 2012 | 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by gunman-13
...explain what?
the whole kit was never road legal,
As it turns out Prodrive never made an effort to homologate it for road use,so a car fitted with this kit makes it MOT fail and in case of a lethal traffic accident a major problem, even when bought at and installed by an official subaru dealer.
This statement comes from the BeLux main aftersales person,Mr.François Demaret.



So I'm scrapping everything....the end
not flaming you mate just cant believe you think that doing that to a disc is the right way to go about sorting out the braking on a car with at least 200bhp, so your saying my scoobyclinic 6 pots wont pass an mot?!! because they are aftermarket?!crazy talk fella,

if your getting rid ill be happy to take the prodrive capliers as they wont pass an mot ill put them on my go kart
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Old Dec 5, 2012 | 09:05 AM
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Give the bloke some credit for having a go, granted the holes should of been drilled a few degrees away from existing holes etc but why is it a disaster waiting to happen, surely once bolted up they aint going any where, and the studs aint gonna rip through the disc under hard braking, at least give some positive feedback on ways to improve instead of flaming all the time jeez
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Old Dec 5, 2012 | 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by StefanW
Give the bloke some credit for having a go, granted the holes should of been drilled a few degrees away from existing holes etc but why is it a disaster waiting to happen, surely once bolted up they aint going any where, and the studs aint gonna rip through the disc under hard braking, at least give some positive feedback on ways to improve instead of flaming all the time jeez
Credit for what ? for putting a death trap on the road ?

By having only a few of the stud holes complete will put more stress on the other area's of the bells which could end up shattering the disc , so yes in my opinion it is a disaster waiting to happen
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Old Dec 5, 2012 | 09:43 AM
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I agree with you on that point about the hole drillings, but as i said previously if the holes were drilled where there was no interference then that would elimiate the potential of a catastrophic failure.

Thing is if the prices for aftermarket discs for this setup were not so over inflated there would be no need to find alternatives like this anyway !
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Old Dec 5, 2012 | 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by StefanW
I agree with you on that point about the hole drillings, but as i said previously if the holes were drilled where there was no interference then that would elimiate the potential of a catastrophic failure.

Thing is if the prices for aftermarket discs for this setup were not so over inflated there would be no need to find alternatives like this anyway !
Those discs are made in such a way that where ever you redrill the new stud holes to suit the Subaru you will be cutting into the existing holes , so it can't be done.

The only discs for this set up that is over inflated are the original one piece discs that can with the kit , the 2 piece discs and bells we make are far from being over inflated considering they are a 2 piece disc and bell , once you have our bells , from then on you only need to change the rotors , which we are currently doing for £325 a pair , hardly breaking the bank on parts for a high performance car !
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Old Dec 5, 2012 | 04:21 PM
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Well i had a look at the CAD for those discs earlier as found a copy and there is space if you move them round 18 degrees from the exsisting holes so it can be done, sorry i like being pedantic, and as to your other comment think we will have to agree to disagree as im assuming your an engineer too we both know material costs and to manufacture those isnt alot of work, granted theres development costs but to design and make a set of bells is easy specially on most modern CAD systems like pro/e solid works etc
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Old Dec 5, 2012 | 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by StefanW
Well i had a look at the CAD for those discs earlier as found a copy and there is space if you move them round 18 degrees from the exsisting holes so it can be done, sorry i like being pedantic, and as to your other comment think we will have to agree to disagree as im assuming your an engineer too we both know material costs and to manufacture those isnt alot of work, granted theres development costs but to design and make a set of bells is easy specially on most modern CAD systems like pro/e solid works etc
Then there's the Vat amount , then take into account advertising , rent , rates , electric , wages ect ect .
If there wasn't any of that involved we could sell them a lot cheaper , I take it you don't run your own business ?
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Old Dec 6, 2012 | 08:44 AM
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Not officially, I do bespoke work on the side for a few select customers but wouldnt call it a business as such, so yes you have me on that one.
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Old Dec 6, 2012 | 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by StefanW
Give the bloke some credit for having a go, granted the holes should of been drilled a few degrees away from existing holes etc but why is it a disaster waiting to happen, surely once bolted up they aint going any where, and the studs aint gonna rip through the disc under hard braking, at least give some positive feedback on ways to improve instead of flaming all the time jeez
fella sorry if iam the one your saying about flaming but when people dont listen, they tend to come back a few weeks/months later saying this xyz has happened poor me,

have you read the thread at its not just the drilling, the disc doesnt fit into the caplier as it is to thick also?!

so if he cant get pads in maybe best to use chocolate digestive biscuits chocolate to act as copper slip, biscuit as a nice compound for the best bite as we wouldnt want the disc's getting hot would we.

credit for thinking outsie the box yes, flaming for clearly wanting not to spend the money to keep an classic car on the road, and put others in danger
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Wow - just read this as I was looking for history on redrilling 114.3PCD into 100PCD discs.

Surely this can be done without redrilling existing holes?

Robert.
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Old Nov 22, 2017 | 10:32 PM
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mate my jaws have dropped after seeing the pictures. Trust me I see alot of brakes. This is just simply shocking.
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Originally Posted by Godspeed Brakes

All discs have vanes , but our own make are straight vanes , AP's are curved , I'm yet to be convinced it makes a difference when the wind is flying past the discs at up to 150mph when your driving along !

Cheers Ian
the rotor acts like an air pump, it's kind of like a desk fan with a flat and solid front and rear casing.

some Brembo vane designs to consider here:
https://goo.gl/images/e9MYhR
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Originally Posted by Rob Day
Wow - just read this as I was looking for history on redrilling 114.3PCD into 100PCD discs.

Surely this can be done without redrilling existing holes?

Robert.
yes, you can drill a new set of holes, spaced evenly between the existing holes is the best solution
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