Mitsubishi Evo V111 MR 320 power figure.
13 April 2011, 10:38 PM
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It is compensated with a coastdown run. Whilst not perfect, the majority of losses are related to rotational speed rather than loading, so it makes more sense to use coastdown than a fixed multiplier which is mainly idiocy that the MLR are fascinated with.
13 April 2011, 10:47 PM
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http://www.lancerregister.com/showpo...3&postcount=55 is an interesting counterpoint to the popular notion that "Power at the wheels is all that matters."
14 April 2011, 07:17 AM
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Tony don't get me wrong, in stock guise it's a close battle with th STi losing http://www.fastestlaps.com/compariso...er_evo_ix.html
However as soon as you want to start throwing some money at your motor the evo is the better base car to work with. Bang for buck the impreza doesn't come close! I don't expect anyone to agree with me on a Subaru forum, lucky I have had both cars in stock trim and modded them unto 400bhp so I can speak openly and honestly without the rose tinted glasses the audience here have
However as soon as you want to start throwing some money at your motor the evo is the better base car to work with. Bang for buck the impreza doesn't come close! I don't expect anyone to agree with me on a Subaru forum, lucky I have had both cars in stock trim and modded them unto 400bhp so I can speak openly and honestly without the rose tinted glasses the audience here have
I agree that you can "probably" tune an evo slightly better without opening the engine up (on its stock turbo) where as you would have to replace the twin scroll unit on the JDM car to get 400+, but you dont have to replace anything after that, no rods, no pistons etc, and you have a car that STILL handles better than the evo
Oh and the link up there, dunno where they got their figures from for the subaru at the "Ring", but its about 25 seconds out (and 12 seconds minimum quicker for a subaru round there
)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPPXZGmfS9c
And subaru test from standing starts
(this was back in 2004, the latest scoob does it in 7.55, not even matched by an evo 
)Tony
14 April 2011, 09:47 AM
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That seems a bit high especially as the stock motor just has 320.
14 April 2011, 09:53 AM
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i dont have rose tinted specs on
i know that a car 17 years newer than mine, will have a better developed chassis and as standard, brakes, infact a lot better everything.
i like evos, but the 6 is the one id get, after that they become a bit wrong imo
yeah ive spent a **** load on mine - but not nearly as much as a new evo - and you cant beat it when they see the l plate and come right up your ****,
i like to pull over let them get along side then watch the faces as they try to get it too keep up
i know that a car 17 years newer than mine, will have a better developed chassis and as standard, brakes, infact a lot better everything.
i like evos, but the 6 is the one id get, after that they become a bit wrong imo
yeah ive spent a **** load on mine - but not nearly as much as a new evo - and you cant beat it when they see the l plate and come right up your ****,
i like to pull over let them get along side then watch the faces as they try to get it too keep up
I'm not saying it's right or wrong but they are hard to crash and for gheys ultimately.
14 April 2011, 09:54 AM
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14 April 2011, 10:11 AM
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Bottom line is EVO > STi....anyone who is impartial would agree
14 April 2011, 10:54 AM
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I took an Evo 1X not a V111 sorry. to Dazteck for greersport racing today. Greers only put a fuel pump, air filter, forged actuator, and ported the turbo elbow. And this car made 404bhp, and 370lbft on 1.7 bar, on a standard engine. Now try doing that in a uk spec 2.5. Not a hope in hell. I was impressed how it drove as well. The only thing it missed was the noise. 
I SAID, TRY DOING THAT IN A UK SPEC 2.5
Not a JDM car........
14 April 2011, 11:17 AM
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14 April 2011, 11:26 AM
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I challenge you to get oyur facts right! Standard 9 turbo runs out of puff at 410bhp at the crank, so there is no way in hell it is making 400 at the wheels. The 404bhp and 370ftlbs you mentioned are very close to expected crank hp.....ergo i reckon you got yourself confused
I am sorry i just got out of bed the wrong way and i am going back you are correct it read 304bhp at the wheels SORRY 
14 April 2011, 11:28 AM
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14 April 2011, 12:02 PM
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14 April 2011, 12:07 PM
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http://www.lancerregister.com/showpo...3&postcount=55 is an interesting counterpoint to the popular notion that "Power at the wheels is all that matters."
15 April 2011, 01:43 AM
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I challenge you to get oyur facts right! Standard 9 turbo runs out of puff at 410bhp at the crank, so there is no way in hell it is making 400 at the wheels. The 404bhp and 370ftlbs you mentioned are very close to expected crank hp.....ergo i reckon you got yourself confused
15 April 2011, 06:42 AM
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410 @ the crank? John@evobreakers Evo 8 MLR sprint series car has recently achieved 515 bhp 520 Ib/ft @ the flywheel, running 2.4 bar on a Evo 9 80 series turbo on TRL's rollers. Fair enough he was using Sunaco 190GT race fuel and the boost was later turned down for reliability.
Is that the yellow fq300?........tis my old car if it is, good to still see it going strong
15 April 2011, 10:52 AM
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Here's a link to the car on the Dyno.
http://www.youtube.com/user/greerspo.../1/YM1_wIv-mVk
This one is a Evo V1
http://www.youtube.com/user/greersport?feature=mhum
http://www.youtube.com/user/greerspo.../1/YM1_wIv-mVk
This one is a Evo V1
http://www.youtube.com/user/greersport?feature=mhum
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15 April 2011, 11:39 PM
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(mine did have cams though which are cheap and easy to fit)The scoob sounds better though and is probably easier to find the handling limits, whereas the evo you tend to run out of bottle before you get to the limits. I have more confidence in my current megane sport handling wise as I know what the car is doing, whereas the evo I knew it was planted however the feel wasnt neccessarily there.
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17 April 2011, 08:57 PM
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What made you get rid off the evo and get a Scoob again? I assume the running costs of the evo are much higher than the Scoob? 10k service interval for the Scoob and 5k for an evo if I remember..big difference. I personally think the Scoob has far more character, despite it being less focused and less powerful. Although the ease at which you can get 400 bhp is impressive!
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