i checked the dipstick and it was between full and minimum when i got the car back.

 

That thread is different to yours as these were new engines at the time which obv will need running in and can use some oil during this process. People argue wether you need to run in or not. Personally I'm for running in as it let's you keep an eye on things and let's you bed the rings in properly to avoid future burning oil issues. I'm convinced your car has never been filled correctly with oil ie. Amounts and procedure. If you follow my previous advice this will ensure the correct amount of oil is in the engine regardless of the dipstick. With regards to dip stick marking,the bottom dot is minimum, next dot up is cold max and the notch above that is max hot fill mark. I always fill to 1/8th of an inch below top dot when doing oil change. Run the car for 5 let stand.nip filter and check dip stick, job done. some 2.5 engine use oil some don't, that's just how it is.often you can't see it being burnt but you can smell it. In your case, if you had used 7 Ltrs of oil in 400 or so miles that's a diff story and as said earlier, you would either see a leak or see it being burnt. If it was being burnt the car would be running like a sack of spanners as bores would be glazed and plugs would be saturated. Other thing is to whip a plug or two out and see what's goin on there. It's hard to diagnose as various posters have said without seeing the car or doing the investigative work ourselves.

 

Im inclined to think you are just miss reading the oil or it's never been filled correctly. Again follow my advice in my other thread and see what's what for yourself. It's either using it or it's not. Simple as. It cannot disapear unless it's hudini oil! Keep us posted as said before. Where are you based out of curiosity?[/quote]
I agree thats the only logical explanation,ive had problems reading mine at times and it would be easy to misread it low (after a run) top up when it doesnt need it and then it burns the excess off.Perhaps its using a bit anyway especially if all the carbon was cleaned out and over filling is just magnifying this.

 

trust me i am not reading it wrong, its pretty clear when there isnt a single drop showing on the dipstick. its dry right down to the tip mate

 

What are you going to try then? The only other option is hand over cheque book at a reputable place near by you if you won't try anything that's suggested. Blue John knows his stuff as do I. As said we can only go off the info you are giving us. By changing the hg it should not have messed with any oil Parts apart from the heads which now should be fine due to new hg's. It's is physically impossible to use 7 Ltrs of oil in so few miles without it leaking or showing signs of it burning. If it was a leak it would be catastrophic and the same if it was burning it. Have you checked the water and overflow res for gunk as I suggested yesterday? Have you tried tightening oil filter as you have a leak arround there as told in previous post? Have you wiped away an oil you can see like in the pics you posted to double check it's bot leaking? Have you taken intercooler off to check its not caked in oil? Have you removed undertray and left off so you can properly see if it's leaking. If it's not leaking, burning it, pushing it through intercooler or mixing it with water due to notch head gasket Job, then there is nowhere for it to disappear to. Out of curiosity, which side of the dip stick do you read off? And do you put the stick in with the oil can logo facing you? Sounds silly but my dipstick shows different if I put it in wrong way or read opposite side to one with the marks on, sounds silly I know but that's how it is on mine.....

 

Bugeyejohn sorry

 

Close enough Ive gone through all possible causes on this one and in 20 odd years its the first time im at a total loss, as when i rule out what it cant be theres nothing left.Still as the old saying goes you live and learn so will stay tuned and hope to learn something new.

 

he is not reading gearbox level is he by mistake

 

prosport stockport book it in there

 

i just cant afford it after spending just under 2k 2 months ago to be spending it again. so going to another garage who charge £80 an hour just to get advice isnt something i have the luxury of at the moment.

i may spend £80 to get told the bottom end has gone and its 2k. then what? i have to think logically and try to use the garage that has done the job to keep the costs down as they must have some responsibiltiy as this happended 30 seconds after i got the car back

 

Pm me ya postcode. I'll see how many miles you are away from me and ill see if I can free up some time to pop down and check it out for you and see if we can shed some light ob the matter.

 

sent mate thanks

 

Really? What about all the rocker cover seals, front and rear crank seals, the cam seals etc etc.

Fingers crossed for the OP that you might notice something he's missed, as just reading it, it's an odd one.

 

Rocker cover should have been u bonded surely. Ok cam seals should be done but if they were ok before they should still be ok but to do the job right they should have been replaced and I would of for the cost involved. Front and rear crank seals shouldn't have been touched for the work he's had done. Again they can leak but op says no oil present under car. Half a litre from a rear crank seal makes a real mess...... Did one last week do I can vouch first hand on that one.

 

He's best off dropping the oil on his drive and seeing how much actually comes out, i've over filled mine before because my dipstick doesn't seem to register when the car is cold, let the car run for 10, then let stand for ten and the dipstick reads spot on. bet about 5 litres comes out when he does it, just like mine did, so measured the 4.5 litres of oil and put it back in!

 

this sounds like a life line, did you see or find out why yours did this. i thought tthe thread i linked sounded exactly the same as my problem.

I do check mine at different times, warm and cold etc. very very strange, i thought the sump was at a crazy angle or something

 

I told you to do this in my first or second post on this thread regarding you drop the oil and measure the correct amount in as stated in the method I gave you. It won't do itself, you will physically have to do it!!!!! Lol. The other thread is different as said previously as the engines were new and will use some oil whilst running in, however the issue with inaccuracy with the dip stick as mentioned in one of my other posts remains an issue.

 

You overfilled because of dip stick inacuracy, he simply says he has no oil on his dip stick at all and he gas checked when engine warm and cold. You are right tho, the only way to be sure is to drop the oil and put the measured amount in as I have already stated previously. A phrase with wall and head springs to mind......

 

its been one day since you posted that give me a chance.

i appreciated your post and will try it but i havent had time.

Its only been a day ;(

 

Just went for a drive and wanted to see how the car reacted and noticed splats of oil as you can see in the pics. this is just looking like a oil leak from the filter.?

 

If its loosing the amount you stated I would expect to see a LOT more oil then that, having said that looking at a few pics isnt an ideal way of making a diagnosis .... I would expect to see (several litres of) oil absolutely everywhere under the car from the source of the leak backwards . A mess a layman couldnt mistake for anything but a leak, I cant stress enough the importance of getting an expert to examine your car before it suffers a catastophic failure, ( insert wallet busting estimate here)

 

matey trust me if it had lost a litre of oil from the filter the under neath of the car would be covered let alone 7 ltrs, have you done as suggested and dropped the oil n measured it yet ?

 

Any update on this?

Still losing oil like a BP rig?

 

Update matey?????

 

ok quick update the oil filter had a faulty seam, not the rubber seal but the actual seam holding the filter together which explained the huge loss as it was basically just dropping straight from the faulty filter so thats sorted with regards to the rattle (heat shield)

After alot of problems with the scooby i think i am down to the final issue, i get a annoying rattle and tinny noise when in the low revs in high gear. i have been told its a heat sheild but its the heat shield under the turbo so will be a huge pain to sort,

The garage said he rang subaru who stated all the heat sheilds come together and cost between £200-£300. no idea if this is true.

He states its the heat shield just under the turbo on the down pipe on the drivers side.

this is the same garage who has only just put my engine back in due to new clutch and head gasket, i am guessing he put the heat shield back on wrong but he wont accept the blame. he states the turbo has to come off to get it sorted and is a big job.

does anyone know if you can buy this on its own and not as a set? also has anyone had this problem aswell?



the arrows are on the metal rod he used to show me where the heat shield is and he hit it to show me the noise.

 

Glad you got your oil problem sorted mate, i was waiting for an update on this thread to see what you found.

Have you tried posting in the traders section for the full cars that are being broken. that would probably be your cheapest option.

 

MY ****ING GOD.

Oil has gone again. no sign from either underneath or smoke from the exhaust. to say i am pissed of is a understatement.

the garage had the car 3 weeks this time and 219 miles later and the oil has gone again.

is there anywhere i can take this without being charged 100 for someone to say erm not sure?

subaru is 80 just to look for an hour, what if they cnat find it? then that 80 down the swanny.

HELP ME

 

Take it to a proper specialist and find the fault. If its down to the first garage you took it too, get the specialist to confirm that in writing.