Saint AAI

Job done.

Will create revenue, save money on life behind bars, and sort sat night tv in one go.

"Who loves you, and who do you love!!!!?"

billythekid

I read somewhere recently that the cost of education in the UK has gone up 10 fold in the last 20 years.

I suspect prisons are similar.

Its a complete joke.

The Zohan

School food v.s prison food
http://www.soilassociation.org/LinkC...Y%3D&tabid=388
School meals for around 35 pence
This pattern reflects how little is spent on ingredients under the ‘Best Value’ approach to the management of school catering contracts. Where a hot meals service survives, ‘food services operatives’ on short-term, low-paid contracts have increasingly replaced skilled cooks. Local authority catering organisations (which do not have to make a profit) commonly spend on average around 35 pence per child a day on primary school lunch ingredients. In areas where wage costs are higher, the food procurement chain more extended, or the provision contracted to a private company (that must generate a profit margin) this figure can be as low as 31 pence.

Better meals in jail
In contrast, the prison service currently spends £1.74 per prisoner a day on food ingredients. Assuming that lunch in either institution should provide around 35 per cent of daily nutritional needs and cost a proportionate amount, this figure suggests we spend roughly double (60 pence per lunch) on prison food compared to school meals (over and above any fresh ingredients supplied free to prison kitchens directly from prison farms). The inadequacy of 31 to 35 pence for school meal ingredients is well illustrated by the Local Authorities’ Caterers Association’s (LACA) annual contest to find the nation’s best school cook. In 2002 competitors were told they could spend up to 80 pence per head on ingredients for “a balanced two course meal.”

Geezer

I'd like to see murderers, rapists, drug dealers, career thieves, you name it, all strung up.

But, executing an innocent person is simply not acceptable. It's not like collateral damage in a war, that is not intended. Executing someone is a very definite and intentional thing to do, not an accident or side effect.

For the people who think it is, imagine if your child was the one who was executed and was not guilty. It's not like having a child run over or killed in some other way, you would know that they were going to die for something they hadn't done, at a certain time and place, and there would be nothing you could do about it. Would that still be acceptable to you?

Still, like I say, I'd still like to see fairly large proportion of the population bumped off

Geezer

bigsinky

i see the risk of the odd wrongful execution outweighing the 1000s of scumbags we would get rid of. and before the righteous brigade say "you wouldn't want it to be your partner,parent,child etc". yes your right i wouldn't, but the chances of that happening are very slim. career criminals and scumbags who offer nothing to society should be offered no quarter. Tougher sentencing, don't make me laugh. the person who planted that car bomb under that PSNI mans car last week, will get 25 years, out in 12 or 13. the loved ones of the officer killed will suffer loss for 50 years or more, how is that justice?

bugeyejohn

iTrader: (11)

Its not quite that simple,for one being in 2 places at once would be difficult what about the real criminals dna?and convictions have more than just dna stacked against it.Our prison are full of nutters that will never be let out and worst than that some that will.If any victim gets the call to say the a release date has been set it must be horrific its like a life sentence for them.My father in law is a probation officer and some of the nutters he deals with glory in there crimes and will repeat them first chance they get so theres only one way to make sure they dont.

joz8968

iTrader: (13)

That is the case that ultimately brought about the DP's demise.

Tidgy

multi offence rapist's, murder's, pedo's should all just be shot and job done.

particularly the later, if you enjoy that sort of thing your never gonna change so why not just get rid?

hodgy0_2

there is no concept of "guilty" or "really guilty", just guilty

and if you want to see how flimsy the evidence needed to convict someone of murder, look no further than the Jill Dando trial

even the prosecuting barrister was surprised Barry George was convicted as the evidence was non existant.

if we had had the death penalty for the last 30 years, many tens of people may well have had the noose put round them as innocent men.

RobJenks

Any individual attempting to cause death by whatever means to innocent people should be strung up. ie terrorists

bugeyejohn

iTrader: (11)

True but on a plus point many thousands could have been saved.Plus forensics are a lot better now than they used to be.And what happens when someone openly admits what they have done and the evidence is stacked against them?

Terminator X

iTrader: (7)

I note your single incident of being "wronged" goes back to the 70's! I'm guessing that in 2011 murderers are pretty unlikely to be "wronged" due to DNA evidence etc etc How many murderers are in prison vs those that get off further down the line ... small / insignificant IMHO.

TX.

Terminator X

iTrader: (7)

Agreed albeit when added to the results of good, honest policing it gives greater certainty that you've got it right eg you may have DNA evidence of me at the scene of the crime (been there once in my life) however if CCTV etc doesn't pin me there at the time then it doesn't help their case.

TX.

Terminator X

iTrader: (7)

It's exactly the same thing as it's not their intention to execute an innocent person ...

TX.

joz8968

iTrader: (13)

Despite the obvious advances in technology/forensics/cognitive memory 'reclaiming' techniques, etc., etc., NO procedure is infallible. Especially when most convictions largely rely on 'in the heat of the moment' eyewitness accounts i.e. potentially flawed anecdotal evidence.

SO if that led to just one total innocent being sent to the gallows wrongly accused, then that is one too many.

Q.E.D. (IMO, obviously).