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Old 31 March 2011, 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by SiPie
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Policeman should have nodded then asked to see the type of camera the cyclist was using. Then he should have stamped on the camera smashing it to bits, then booted the living **** out of the ****.

This has nothing to do with cyclists, just the simple fact that the guy on the bike is a total ****.

Such anger SiPie!

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Originally Posted by f1_fan
Sorry, but this is EXACTLY the reason cyclists should have to have some form of licence and documentation to be on the road. Traceability!!! He broke the law and got away with it as there was nothing the police officer could really do short of arresting him forcefully.

The cyclist is another smart **** with his little camera running so he can post it on You Tube and think he is clever.

Well hopefully karma will pay him a visit soon. What a ****!!!
After looking at the other vids I have a feeling this guy has metal issues. Might be an Aspergers, which would explain alot IMO.

Karma maybe the fact that a PC will get annoyed by him enough to trace him down via those smug youtube vids and at the very least slap that fine on him for running that red traffic light.

As for the vids having a go at the duty manager of the national gallery; yes its a request. Not a demand. But manners and common courtesy and decency would dictate that you obey that request as not to cause confrontation. Its not about him and what he is entitled to, its about his presence annoying others and the request is to not annoy others by being the wannabe anarchist that he tries to be. Those rules and regs are written to stop people taking liberties and annoying others....just like he is doing with his billboard and megaphone.

All he does is abuse people's better nature by creating timewasting dialogues. As a result its futile trying to engage with him.

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Old 31 March 2011, 01:13 PM
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That's after 8 anger management courses, and here was me thinking I was being quite restrained
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Wow! There is sooooooooooo much anger here against cyclists!

I'm with the cyclist and AGAINST the police. They already have far too much power which they DO misuse. I have been on the receiving end of lies, partial truths, threats and such myself, and have VERY little time for the UK police tbh!

And before anyone says, "ah yes, but you'd run to them if you needed to!". No I wouldn't, I've been let down too many times. DIY is the name of the game now
Old 31 March 2011, 01:57 PM
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I'm not reading anger towards cyclists in this thread, I'm reading despair against a complete time waster. It's people like this that make life expensive and difficult.
Old 31 March 2011, 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Zaim
I'm not reading anger towards cyclists in this thread, I'm reading despair against a complete time waster. It's people like this that make life expensive and difficult.
My point exactly. Not anger towards cyclists, just exasperation towards feckin arseholes
Old 31 March 2011, 02:19 PM
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What a nutcase ...... Feel sorry for the police that have to put up with this kind of crap.

Too many people hide behind big words and crazy laws that allow them to get away with this kind of behaviour.
If someone stuck a camera in my face I would like to think I have the right to remove it with out consequence. Maybe I'm wrong or old fashioned.
Not that I'm a police officer or anything, but it just boils my pi$$

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Old 31 March 2011, 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by SiPie
+1

Policeman should have nodded then asked to see the type of camera the cyclist was using. Then he should have stamped on the camera smashing it to bits, then booted the living **** out of the ****.

This has nothing to do with cyclists, just the simple fact that the guy on the bike is a total ****.

Old 31 March 2011, 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Leslie
Would you like our society to have no rules at all? should the copper just stand back and allow cyclists to jump red lights ***** nilly thus causing all kinds of dangerous situations.

No - he should have arrested him if he said he was going to do so.

Should everyone be able to do exactly as they like with no restriction and no thought for anyone else?

Not in my opinion.

Do you believe in complete anarchy and eventual survival of those in the strongest position or those with the biggest weapons?

Haven't really thought about that.

Would you prefer no police to control society at all?

That would be utopia - unfortunately the police are a necessary evil IMO

Les
I think the policeman mishandled the situation and the uniform he (and his colleagues) is wearing is demeaned by that action. I am sure the PC in question will have taken time to reflect on the situation and will have come to his own opinion/conclusion.
Old 31 March 2011, 08:36 PM
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riding through a red light . perfectly legit reason to become road kill . i as the plod would of put it to the bloke ., do you wish to get to yours kids school , if the answer is yes then i recomend you stop running red lights before you END UP AS A CHEEP WAY OF FILLING IN A POTHOLE which is what cyclists like him should be used for . take morons off the road MAKE THEM PART OF IT
Old 31 March 2011, 08:43 PM
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i'm with alcazar on this the police are useless and do misuse their powers, more power to the people i say, good on the cyclist!!!
Old 31 March 2011, 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by alcazar
Wow! There is sooooooooooo much anger here against cyclists!

I'm with the cyclist and AGAINST the police. They already have far too much power which they DO misuse. I have been on the receiving end of lies, partial truths, threats and such myself, and have VERY little time for the UK police tbh!

And before anyone says, "ah yes, but you'd run to them if you needed to!". No I wouldn't, I've been let down too many times. DIY is the name of the game now
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Old 31 March 2011, 10:30 PM
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Having seen those.

He is a wnaker.

Needs to get laid or drunk before his "little hobby" puts him up against someone who is going to ram the camera up his arris and remove his need for toothpaste.
Old 31 March 2011, 10:42 PM
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Originally Posted by SiPie


That's after 8 anger management courses, and here was me thinking I was being quite restrained
Old 31 March 2011, 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by madscoob
riding through a red light . perfectly legit reason to become road kill . i as the plod would of put it to the bloke ., do you wish to get to yours kids school , if the answer is yes then i recomend you stop running red lights before you END UP AS A CHEEP WAY OF FILLING IN A POTHOLE which is what cyclists like him should be used for . take morons off the road MAKE THEM PART OF IT
Amusing, albeit for all the wrong reasons!
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Originally Posted by ALi-B
After looking at the other vids I have a feeling this guy has metal issues.
I disagree. The man is nowhere near cool enough to be a "Slayer" fan!!
Old 31 March 2011, 10:53 PM
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He's obviously very immature and feels that "biggng" himself up on camera by questioning everyone will gain him respect. Those of us on here with kids will remember the "why" stage as children begin to learn and develop their skills. Once the cop grabbed him to arrest him, he soon lost his bravado. Would have liked to see how he dealt with that had he not bottled it.
Old 01 April 2011, 01:07 AM
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Originally Posted by scoobyboy
i'm with alcazar on this the police are useless and do misuse their powers, more power to the people i say, good on the cyclist!!!
How have they misused their powers here....
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Originally Posted by Felix.
How have they misused their powers here....
Brick wall on this one, Felix.

I wouldn't waste your keyboard clicks.

The intelligent people have voiced their opinion. The others just hate the police and always will. You could save their life with your own fair hands and they would criticise you for it.
Old 01 April 2011, 02:56 AM
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Funny that when it's a cyclist on a bike trying to navigate the law to his own advantage, and we don't know if he was actually guilty, then he gets a raft of abuse here and no support. But.......

If it's a performance car driver who is speeding, racing etc etc then the Police and safety cameras are wa****rs

If that video was re-jigged with an Impreza driver and a traffic cop I'm positive everyone would be more than happy to support them.

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Old 01 April 2011, 06:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Pink_Floyd
Funny that when it's a cyclist on a bike trying to navigate the law to his own advantage, and we don't know if he was actually guilty, then he gets a raft of abuse here and no support. But.......

If it's a performance car driver who is speeding, racing etc etc then the Police and safety cameras are wa****rs

If that video was re-jigged with an Impreza driver and a traffic cop I'm positive everyone would be more than happy to support them.
I repeat:

I will always empathise with the cyclist but ********* are ********* on any form of transport, impreza, forester, canoe, combine harvester or bike and THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE GUY BEING A CYCLIST IT I BECAUSE HE IS A TOTAL TOOL. His only defence is that he may have aspergers as previously mentioned.
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I detest cyclists who think they can just ride through red lights, they should get the same punishment as any driver who does so (that includes points on their license if they have one), they ride on the road and commit a traffic offence then think they can get away with it..... yeah ok, and yes this guy is a dick, would love the police to find him and do him for the incident (note how he does not show the bit when he went through the red light), the copper should have just arrested him for failing to provide details.

Tony
Old 01 April 2011, 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Pink_Floyd
If that video was re-jigged with an Impreza driver and a traffic cop I'm positive everyone would be more than happy to support them.
But there wouldn't be any video as the police officer would simply have got his registration number and then had all his details to hand.... job done!!!

That is the point. Cyclists can do what they want and there can be no come back as short of man handling them into a police van under arrest the police have no way of identifying them. They are road users and should have some form of licensing!!!

I know there are a lot of good cyclists, but I see an awful lot of bad ones too (it's a rather large minority shall we say) and the fact there is little chance of them ever being held to account over the way they use the roads means they can get away with pretty much anything.

As for the **** end in the video he will get well and truly slapped some time soon. All he needs to do is point his ****-o-cam at the wrong person and it WILL happen
Old 01 April 2011, 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Wurzel
What! No comments defending cyclists from Clarebabes or daveyboy
We're skiing actually, you probably think that's for ***** too?

BTW, can't see that video, says it's private...?
Old 01 April 2011, 11:54 AM
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Ahhh, we can put a face to the voice: http://www.youtube.com/user/spiritua...19/8rx7c_t9g1A

He mentioned having a wife too. Poor woman!
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Originally Posted by SiPie
I repeat:

I will always empathise with the cyclist but ********* are ********* on any form of transport, impreza, forester, canoe, combine harvester or bike and THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE GUY BEING A CYCLIST IT I BECAUSE HE IS A TOTAL TOOL. His only defence is that he may have aspergers as previously mentioned.
I wasn't directing my post at you directly, no need to shout

Originally Posted by TonyBurns
I detest cyclists who think they can just ride through red lights, they should get the same punishment as any driver who does so (that includes points on their license if they have one), they ride on the road and commit a traffic offence then think they can get away with it..... yeah ok, and yes this guy is a dick, would love the police to find him and do him for the incident (note how he does not show the bit when he went through the red light), the copper should have just arrested him for failing to provide details.

Tony
Tony, I agree. My point on this earlier is that here we have a cyclist who may or may not have ridden though a red light. There's a good chance he has though. He then proceeds in a rather pedantic way to wriggle out of the alleged offense.

I don't see how this is any different to the rafts of members here who come along with similar tales of woe involving traffic offenses, but because it's in a car, and a performance one it's OK to seek advice and slag off the Police.

Originally Posted by f1_fan
But there wouldn't be any video as the police officer would simply have got his registration number and then had all his details to hand.... job done!!!
Yes the Police might not need his details as they have the reg number. However there could be an equal chance of the driver having one of these in car video systems etc and just as much chance of them arguing at the roadside with the Police if they felt, as the cyclist did, they had

a) Done nothing wrong, or,

b) Had a good chance of getting away with it!
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Originally Posted by Pink_Floyd
Yes the Police might not need his details as they have the reg number. However there could be an equal chance of the driver having one of these in car video systems etc and just as much chance of them arguing at the roadside with the Police if they felt, as the cyclist did, they had

a) Done nothing wrong, or,

b) Had a good chance of getting away with it!
No sorry, that is just not the case. Most of the argument was the police officer trying to get enough information to prosecute him and the bell end arguing that he didn't have to give him any information because he damn well knows the policeman can do little about it. Do you beleive for one second he genuinely thought he wasn't guilty. A good number of cyclists do this sort of thing all the time because they know they will get away with it. Get cyclists licensed and the cocky **** woudln't be so gobby.

Anyway I am so hoping someone rams the camera up his **** some time soon and let's see that on You Tube.
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Originally Posted by Felix.
He is obliged to do so. He has committed an offence which is still in force for the moment in any case (going through a red light, dangerous cycling etc) and as such he will receive a summons/ticket. If he refuses to provide his details (name & address) or we believe those details to be wrong, we can arrest him under S24 PACE, as the serving of a summons will be impossible without them. If he continues to refuse his details at the nick, he will be remanded before the next court.

And no, he does not need to know the law word perfect (as the PACE law is huge) – he just needs to know that he has that power to act.

I think, the PC was probably going to have a ‘quiet word’ about his cycling – hence why the PC was caught off guard and had to start fishing around for tickets etc, ie he wasn’t expecting such a defensive attitude for merely passing through a red light.

I don’t know why he made a grab for him – unless this was the arrest. But if so he should have pursued/chased or kept hold of him at least.

Oh well, just another day......
Felix.

It may surprise you, but i totally agree with what you said

Considering the arrogant cyclist posted the video on YouTube (at considerable embarrassment to the plod involved), do you think that things may now be taken further?

Cheers,

mb
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
No sorry, that is just not the case. Most of the argument was the police officer trying to get enough information to prosecute him and the bell end arguing that he didn't have to give him any information because he damn well knows the policeman can do little about it.
Is that really any different to people who try to circumnavigate NIP's etc by asking for advice? The Police are always going to try and gain enough information to prosecute that's just the system isn't it. Yet people will always try and be economical with the truth to try and get off on a technicality. It's just in this instance the guy is a bit of a tit..........

It's like the case that occurred where a driver would not identify himself in the NIP photo as it was incriminating and against his human rights. I can't remember the outcome but he had a lot of support as it was against the "Evil of Traffic Cameras" Not a lot of difference in the two cases either is there?

It's not any different either from the advice offered in the books that seem to crop up written by ex-coppers telling you to admit nothing etc.

To be honest the more people protest about the cyclist being a t**t etc and how cyclists are always making bad judgements, and ignoring traffic law and should therefore be punished the more laughable it makes the situation. As I suspect the same people will be the first to offer "advice" and "support" to a fellow member who's been speeding, or jumping a red-light camera the only difference is the vehicle used to break the law

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