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Old 24 March 2011, 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Shaun
No one likes realistic figures though and those given at PowerStation certainly are realistic imo.

I must take mine to somewhere else to get some "free" torque.

If I had known all this before I wouldn't of bothered upgrading to a LM400.
Had my car on the dyno just after Andy F did his stuff on it.

They stuck on the rolling road and said "350bhp - is that what you were expecting??". I said "Erm no, it's only on a Hybrid TD04". They then said they'd got something wrong, did it again and came up with 301bhp!

Something in between would have been good!
Old 24 March 2011, 06:24 PM
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Shaun your spot on................figures these days are way over the top. And one thing that eludes me is people who chase numbers. There is no point having 350 bhp if you don't know how to use it. And I don't mean in a straight line!!

I would strongly invest in some wet course days and trackdays before modding cars.

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Old 24 March 2011, 08:28 PM
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Hi andy have you seen this item number on eBay 160563828327 seems like a genuine car with good spec cheers steve
Old 24 March 2011, 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by steve71
Hi andy have you seen this item number on eBay 160563828327 seems like a genuine car with good spec cheers steve
Nice motor, suprised to see a version 8 on an 05 plate though, nowt wrong with that, but you should know it aint a wide track version 9
Old 25 March 2011, 01:23 AM
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Is there a difference in suspension between 06 Uk & JDM STi's?
Old 25 March 2011, 04:47 AM
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Originally Posted by andythejock01wrx
Had my car on the dyno just after Andy F did his stuff on it.

They stuck on the rolling road and said "350bhp - is that what you were expecting??". I said "Erm no, it's only on a Hybrid TD04". They then said they'd got something wrong, did it again and came up with 301bhp!

Something in between would have been good!
PMSL!

Something in between would be 325.5bhp exactly. I'm sure if you bought him a pint, he would have made it show 325.5bhp exactly.

I believe there should be some difference. Either spring rate or dampers. On a hatch STI, the JDM dampers have different part numbers from the UK dampers. I believe it should be the same case for the '06.

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Old 25 March 2011, 06:41 AM
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Originally Posted by rickya
Obviously each dyno is different, but at DSA my Spec C made over 400ft/lbs of torque on std engine with uprated acutuator running at 1.7 bar peak boost

What exact upgrades was on your Spec C when this run was done Ricky? Figures aside, the peak came very early. Much earlier that what -Nic- achieved in his hawkeye Spec C even though both of your bhp figures were similar. https://www.scoobynet.com/scoobynet-...he-spec-c.html
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So-o-oo-o-o,

All you JDM owners - do you miss the burble? Tried listening to a JDM on youtube, but it's difficult to get a clear idea of what it's like. Is it like an Evo sound wise?

I know the spec C thing has been done to death in the past, but from what i can see the only difference is that it's lighter and has an IC spray??

ta

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Andy,
Who gives a **** about the burble!

There are a few more differences than just the weight with a Spec C. The IC spray is on all JDM's and not just the Spec C.
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Originally Posted by Shaun
Andy,
Who gives a **** about the burble!
Old 25 March 2011, 11:21 AM
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Do reckon if I asked Litchfields they would send me a spec list for the 2006 T20?
Old 25 March 2011, 11:32 AM
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It's as per JDM car with additional AST single way adjustable suspension, Whiteline ARB's, Whiteline Anti-Lift Kit and Litchfields geometry settings. The Type20 chassis pack is detailed within the Litchfield On-Line store.

The Type20 specification should also be on their site.
Old 25 March 2011, 11:34 AM
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It's a bit old, but plenty of info possibly too much.

https://www.scoobynet.com/showthread...ight=Spec+type
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Originally Posted by Suberman
What exact upgrades was on your Spec C when this run was done Ricky? Figures aside, the peak came very early. Much earlier that what -Nic- achieved in his hawkeye Spec C even though both of your bhp figures were similar. https://www.scoobynet.com/scoobynet-...he-spec-c.html
Similar upgrades to Nic: K&N panel filter; 3 port boosr solenoid; H&S bellmouth 3" decat downpipe & centre section (resonated) & Miltek backbox.

The only difference being I had a large Hyperflow TMIC & more importantly IMO is the Forge Actuator - Blue Spring. Also I suppose it depends how the mapper wants to map it. I personally prefer Nic's torque graph as it does'nt suddenly drop off & instead builds nicely along with bhp. Though mine did spool up really quick & gave you a shove in the back at approx 3,500 revs in 2nd & 3rd gear!
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Originally Posted by Shaun
Andy,
Who gives a **** about the burble!
Shaun

Esp with these new LM series turbos added on the twin scroll setup, the car sounds nothing short of rocketship taking off when coming on boost.
Well mine does anyway

Hope to be back to Iain soon for some added Billet magic aswell!!
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Originally Posted by Shaun
It's as per JDM car with additional AST single way adjustable suspension, Whiteline ARB's, Whiteline Anti-Lift Kit and Litchfields geometry settings. The Type20 chassis pack is detailed within the Litchfield On-Line store.

The Type20 specification should also be on their site.
What are the AST's like? Can they be set at something less than "boneshaker" ride for the geriatric (by mind!) among us?

Does all this mean Spec C handling needs modifying?
Old 25 March 2011, 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by MelTypeR
Shaun

Esp with these new LM series turbos added on the twin scroll setup, the car sounds nothing short of rocketship taking off when coming on boost.
Well mine does anyway
So it sounds a bit like a Honda Vtec engine? (Had a Prelude at one point)

AtJ
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Originally Posted by Robocop
It's a bit old, but plenty of info possibly too much.

https://www.scoobynet.com/showthread...ight=Spec+type

Cheers Robo!
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Originally Posted by andythejock01wrx
So it sounds a bit like a Honda Vtec engine? (Had a Prelude at one point)

AtJ
If you dont mind Mel, I thought Id clarify that it sounds a tad better than a honda!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlWXL...eature=related
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Lol - Thanks Ricky

Although I think even that video doesnt do it justice to what it sounds like on the road.

Will get some clips of my recent trackday at Snetterton uploaded soon.
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Originally Posted by Robocop
It's a bit old, but plenty of info possibly too much.

https://www.scoobynet.com/showthread...ight=Spec+type
Great thread back in the days when 350hp was just enough

TX.
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Originally Posted by rickya
Similar upgrades to Nic: K&N panel filter; 3 port boosr solenoid; H&S bellmouth 3" decat downpipe & centre section (resonated) & Miltek backbox.

The only difference being I had a large Hyperflow TMIC & more importantly IMO is the Forge Actuator - Blue Spring. Also I suppose it depends how the mapper wants to map it. I personally prefer Nic's torque graph as it does'nt suddenly drop off & instead builds nicely along with bhp. Though mine did spool up really quick & gave you a shove in the back at approx 3,500 revs in 2nd & 3rd gear!
Actuator eh?

Looking close at both charts, they seem to fall around the same rate if you ask me. But I would want still your torque curve TBH. I find that even with the twinscroll, i find the spool still alittle later than i'd like. "Shove in the back at approx 3,500 revs" sounds like fun if you ask me!
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Originally Posted by MelTypeR
Shaun

Esp with these new LM series turbos added on the twin scroll setup, the car sounds nothing short of rocketship taking off when coming on boost.
Well mine does anyway

Hope to be back to Iain soon for some added Billet magic aswell!!
Mel,
Where are you seeing 1bar on the road in 5th/6th?
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I'll double check tonight Shaun, but im pretty sure its around 3500 - 3600rpm, might be less though.

Simon mapped my simtek closed loop (i think) so it has a different boost profiles per gear. Although its probably the same profile upto 4th then slightly less boost in 5th/6th, as i found it would overboost slightly on cold days in the top 2 gears, to say about 1.8bar.
So now hitting 1.65bar in those gears instead and running much better as there nothing worse then hitting boostcut!! lol its like hitting a brick wall.

Mind you it was still enough to give my friends 996TT with a 580bhp upgrade trouble to gain anything on me on the start/finish straight at snetterton

Mel
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Mel,
Thanks for that and that is what I would of expected, spool wise, on that turbo and OE 2ltr. Since I didn't get up to Litcho this week to get the non Billet removed, I am starting to think again about moving to the LM450 Billet! roflol I really am terrible.

I'm just very unsure of whether or not the later spool (by circa 700rpm) is really going to **** me off, over and above what I have now. I suspect it will. It would change the driveability fundamentally. Mmmmmm.... decisions, decisions.
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Lol see once the BHP bug bites you cant get away from it!! no matter how much your are trying to convince yourself.

To be honest Shaun, although i know that in standard turbo form with just a remap and a Miltek, the car was awesome with all its low down boost but it would just seem to run out of puff at about 6500rpm and would annoy me a little.
Not that the car wasn't fast, far from it, but the extra power gained without going too mad turbo wise has made the car great.
Yes there is a little extra lag but the once the power comes in...........oh boy!! and in reality you only really notice the lag when in higher gears at slow speeds, but then kick it down a couple of gear and you'll be saying.........lag........ what lag!!

If your down at Iains on the 2nd april Shaun, you welcome to take the car out for a drive, so you can see how it compares to your setup.
As i'll be there to get a full service and some extras done
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Mel,
Yeah, but no but....

Needing to keep the engine "stirred" is not something that is uncommon.... especially coming from Cossies of old, but it does dramatically alter the driveability. However, the offer you have so kindly made should not be passed up! roflol It will make an interesting comparison and information for others on my Project Thread if nothing else.

You're a gent Sir.
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I very nearly sold mine last week but I pulled out of the deal

I might start to sell it after my Birthday
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Originally Posted by T5NYW
I very nearly sold mine last week but I pulled out of the deal

I might start to sell it after my Birthday
What are/were you thinking of getting next then Tony?


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