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Old 20 March 2011, 03:11 PM
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If it genuine then yes, 2 things with the postage from japan, I'm sure you can get cheaper from uk & with the radiation problem now affecting food chain out there, no saying you'll get as customs will running a gieger counter over anything from japan
Old 21 March 2011, 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by BlobEyedRex
That's exactly what I thought when I saw spec list. Being a filter no mention of material or it's filtration capability at given pressures/temperatures or how much better it is
It is a bit like an amplifier not telling you its signal to noise ratio or power output. Makes you suspicious at once.
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Originally Posted by Stu @ Internet Brands
It is a bit like an amplifier not telling you its signal to noise ratio or power output. Makes you suspicious at once.

Good point Stu, Knowing that K&N's air filters (as well as many other aftermarket ones) are not that brilliant at filtering air, who knows what their oil filters are like at filtering.
Old 21 March 2011, 02:09 PM
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Its exactly like a data sheet without the data.
Old 21 March 2011, 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Stu @ Internet Brands
It is a bit like an amplifier not telling you its signal to noise ratio or power output. Makes you suspicious at once.
& sticking with hick kit as examples another marketing bluff is stating it has gold plated contacts etc, silver intact has a lower resistivity than gold, rhodium, copper. Just because man places a higher value on gold than silver people then assume it must be better overall
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Hick=hifi (thanks again iPhone autotext rubbish)
Old 21 March 2011, 03:18 PM
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This thread is going over the top,on the one hand oem filters are tat and can dump your oil or maybe not, and anything else is not to be trusted has anyone had problems with any of them.Because if there were surely they would be withdrawn,my bet is all the different filters used until now were problem free in the vast majority of cases,as until now filter choice wasn't even a issue.
Old 21 March 2011, 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by BlobEyedRex
Hick=hifi (thanks again iPhone autotext rubbish)

LOL my only gripe with my iphone 4
Old 21 March 2011, 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by BlobEyedRex
Hick=hifi (thanks again iPhone autotext rubbish)
http://www.andypudmenzky.com/other/misc-random-funny/hilarious-iphone-auto-complete-stuff-ups
Old 21 March 2011, 05:50 PM
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It's like anything else in life: if someone says something is superior, the first question you need to ask yourself (and them) is: "what is the evidence for that assertion?"

In the world of performance tuning, the claims to evidence ratio is very high in my experience....and even higher if you discount evidence that doesn't stand up to much scrutiny.

To be fair, it is often very difficult for tuners to do "ideal" experiements to substanitate their claims; it can often be a "suck it and see" approach, but if they don't even provide data on key variables for the product concerned, you should be very wary!! If I see something that claims to be a filter, not telling me anything about its filtration rate under specified conditions......well.....

When things boil down to people saying "x must be better because it costs more, or it's made by 'z' " that's when things start getting dubious! There is a term for that in Psychology, we call it 'post hoc rationalisation'

As someone alluded to above: all that glitters is not gold!

In fact, you can sprinkle glitter on poo..........so I'm told!

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Old 21 March 2011, 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by bugeyejohn
This thread is going over the top,on the one hand oem filters are tat and can dump your oil or maybe not, and anything else is not to be trusted has anyone had problems with any of them.Because if there were surely they would be withdrawn,my bet is all the different filters used until now were problem free in the vast majority of cases,as until now filter choice wasn't even a issue.
The only thing to bear in mind is the OEM blue filters aren't as well manufactured as they used to be. They will do the job but there are better made ones out there. Just make sure you use one with good filtration properties as this will prolong engine life.
Old 21 March 2011, 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Einstein RA
The only thing to bear in mind is the OEM blue filters aren't as well manufactured as they used to be. They will do the job but there are better made ones out there. Just make sure you use one with good filtration properties as this will prolong engine life.
Yep your right there are better ones out there and proberly worse too,any problems with my non oem i will report in.
Old 21 March 2011, 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Einstein RA
The only thing to bear in mind is the OEM blue filters aren't as well manufactured as they used to be. They will do the job but there are better made ones out there. Just make sure you use one with good filtration properties as this will prolong engine life.
any examples?
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http://www.mindspring.com/~latvia/Ot...omparison.html
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=1662838
I'm neither recommending nor not recommending any. Look at the data and make your own mind up.

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does any one now if the sti pink oil filter is good inside as they could be just as **** and still cost the earth , not that you woudl want to cut up 30.00 worth of filter

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Originally Posted by happydude303
does any one now if the sti pink oil filter is good inside as they could be just as **** and still cost the earth , not that you woudl want to cut up 30.00 worth of filter
For the money I would expect so! Filter media should be synthetic and not cellulose (OEM).
http://www.iwsti.com/forums/2-5-lite...fied-pics.html
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Originally Posted by happydude303
not that you woudl want to cut up 30.00 worth of filter
I am sure someone would donate a used one to science.
Old 22 March 2011, 07:04 PM
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well,just receivedmy new blue one to fit, very lite in weight,but doesnt look too bad,just means from what ive read/seen on this thread i will change the oil at the correct 4kish instead of its current late oil change of 7.5k,Oops LOL (On an OEM Black filter at present)
Old 22 March 2011, 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by bugeyejohn
This thread is going over the top,on the one hand oem filters are tat and can dump your oil or maybe not, and anything else is not to be trusted has anyone had problems with any of them.Because if there were surely they would be withdrawn,my bet is all the different filters used until now were problem free in the vast majority of cases,as until now filter choice wasn't even a issue.
No never:

Brands I've used:

Unipart
Crossland
Subau Black
Subaru Blue
Blueprint

And anyway, who would be insane enough to pay £30 for an oil filter; Especially from the likes of ebay.

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Old 22 March 2011, 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by ALi-B

And anyway, who would be insane enough to pay £30 for an oil filter; Especially from the likes of ebay.
exactly spend £10.66 on a blue and the rest of your money can go on beer & curry

If you keep you engine regularly serviced and use top notch oil, then you can do away with the oil filter unlike air filter
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Originally Posted by ALi-B
No never:

Brands I've used:

Unipart
Subau Black
Subaru Blue
Blueprint

And anyway, who would be insane enough to pay £30 for an oil filter; Especially from the likes of ebay.
god knows but it could be a good little earner apparently subaru wont release the filtration spec of it .At least we have a list of ok filters now this could be the way forward.
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Originally Posted by happydude303
does any one now if the sti pink oil filter is good inside as they could be just as **** and still cost the earth , not that you woudl want to cut up 30.00 worth of filter

Post 162 onwards - http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=1662838
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you now what i might just stick with the sti pink filter just for piece of mind seen as i am running a far bit of power over stock and the fact i have just had to put a new crank in my engine and i had only had that blue filter on two months before it had issue, i think thats far enough
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Originally Posted by jameswrx
K&n one has the incorrect bypass valve pressure. The subaru pump requires a 23psi bypass (which the blue filter has)
Is this true? has this been tested to prove this?
I'm willing to donate my K&N filter for science purposes toward finding out if this oil filter is fit for purpose?!
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Hi,

just going through our stock of oil filters, 150 new blue ones on the shelf when I came across this.








Brand new, sealed with box.

If its not gone by 4.30 PM. its going on E bay.

Cheers
Kev
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You got some nerve Kev, trying to flog out of date stock ....................

David
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Originally Posted by APIDavid
You got some nerve Kev, trying to flog out of date stock ....................

David
Hi,

lost our first customer due to this thread yesterday, cancelled his oil and filter change because we only have the genuine Subaru filters in stock.

I have now put 20 ADL filters on the shelf giving the customer a choice.

The power of forums., makes you wonder

cheers
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Sure does mate, ADL filters indeed, but the customer is always right as we know.
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Originally Posted by The Gaffer
Hi,

just going through our stock of oil filters, 150 new blue ones on the shelf when I came across this.








Brand new, sealed with box.

If its not gone by 4.30 PM. its going on E bay.

Cheers
Kev
differnt part number to the onein the video, wish that US muppet would have taken the wrapper off and shown both new and old filters part numbers, but zooming in the last digits look more like 12a - in which case thats the 1 fitted 2 weeks ago during my oil change.

my part number 15208AA12A if any1 else can confirm the part number in video, might be worth posting up on youtube to state both filters part numbers.

But so far filters been good, and confirm the oil pressure is no different from 2 years ago when i first fitted a pressure guage
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Originally Posted by APIDavid
Sure does mate, ADL filters indeed, but the customer is always right as we know.

Hi,

another rumour thats evolved from a forum is that the water pump needs replacing when the cam belt is changed.

This may be true for engines that use the water pump as a tensioner, once disturbed they tend to leak but not Subaru engines they have a separate tensioner and to be fair Subaru water pumps are very reliable.

However due to that thread we have had an upsurge in demand for perfectly good water pumps to be changed when replacing the cam belt, and many mail orders for cam belt kits with a water pump on top.

We advise accordingly but it falls on deaf ears most of the time.

Forums....

cheers
Kev


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