Seriously F1, reading your posts anyone would believe your understanding of the country's military budget is that if we're not actually in an all-out shooting war with somebody, the whole apparatus costs us diddly-squat. That can't possibly be true, and while Iraq and Afghanistan might well be costing / have cost a hell of a lot more than routine training ops back home or wherever they're normally run, Gadaffi has a grand total of 30 fighters in its entire air-force. Try to get some perspective on this, before you turn into a gurning parody of yourself.

 

Give me a brief outline of this 'revolution'.

 

Would an attack jet be able to take out a tank without killing too many people around it? Would a helicopter gunship be better for this purpose?

dl (not a military man)

 

I'd imagine if a tank was chugging along not Many innocent people will be hanging around it

 

Les

 

Do you honestly think any money was laid aside in our budget for this bearing in mind the state of our economy and the admission by the previous financial secretary that there was no mony left?

Les

 

To an extent yes, but you did not tell us what you would advocate if the UN resolution was vetoe'd.

Les

 

Conflicts in the following list are currently causing at least 1000 violent deaths per year, a categorization used by the Uppsala Conflict Data Program[1] and recognised by the United Nations.[2][3] The UN also use the term "low intensity conflict", which can overlap with the 1000 violent deaths per year categorization.[4]
Start of Conflict War/Conflict Location Cumulative fatalities
1967 Naxalite-Maoist insurgency India 10,500+ (1,174+ in 2010)[5]
1978 Afghan civil war Afghanistan 600,000-2,000,000 (10,461+ in 2010[6])
1991 Somali Civil War Somalia 300,000[7] –400,000[8] (3,000+ in 2010)
2003 Iraq War Iraq 99,328-108,514 [9] (4,000+ in 2010)
2004 War in North-West Pakistan Pakistan 30,452[10] (5,000+ in 2010)
2004 Shi’ite Insurgency in Yemen Yemen 12,833-16,439[11][12][13]
2006 Mexican Drug War Mexico More than 31,834[14] (12,456+ in 2010)
2009 Sudanese nomadic conflicts Sudan 2,000-2,500[15]
2011 Libyan uprising / Libya 3,000-10,000+[16][17]
[edit]Other conflicts

There are many other smaller-scale armed conflicts that are currently causing a smaller number of violent fatalities each year.
Start of Conflict War/Conflict Location Cumulative fatalities
1948[18][19] Korean Conflict North Korea and South Korea 2,000,000
1948 Internal conflict in Burma Burma ~ 100,000
1947 Arab–Israeli conflict Israel and Various Arab states (changed over time). 120,000+[20]
1959 Basque Conflict Spain, France ~ 1,200[21]
1964 Colombian Armed Conflict Colombia 50,000 – 200,000 [22]
1964 Insurgency in Northeast India India ~ 25,000 [23]
1969 Papua conflict Indonesia 75,000 - 100,000
1969[24] Insurgency in the Philippines[25] Philippines ~120,000 [26]
1975 Insurgency in Laos Laos Unknown
1978 Turkey–Kurdistan Workers' Party conflict Turkey, Iraq 45,000-[27] 100,000[28][29][30]
1987 Lord's Resistance Army insurgency Uganda, Sudan, DR Congo and Central African Republic ~12,000
1989 Insurgency in Jammu and Kashmir India ~68,000 [31]
1990 Casamance Conflict Senegal ~1,000
1995 Insurgency in Ogaden Ethiopia 3,500
2002 Insurgency in the Maghreb Algeria, Mali, Mauritania and Morocco 6000+
2004 Conflict in the Niger Delta Nigeria 4,000-5,000[32]
2004 Balochistan conflict Iran and Pakistan 2,500+
2004 Iran–Party for a Free Life in Kurdistan conflict Iran 150-300
2004 South Thailand insurgency Thailand ~3,500
2005 Fourth Civil War of Chad Chad 1,140+
2008 Cambodian–Thai border stand-off Cambodia and Thailand 19-212
2009 Insurgency in the North Caucasus Russia 1,110+
2009 South Yemen insurgency Yemen 180+
2010 Yemeni al-Qaeda crackdown Yemen 310+
2010 Côte d'Ivoire crisis Côte d'Ivoire 410+
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Well if were going to get involved in every one else's conflicts were going to have to set out a bigger budget.

 

Wrong it was one of the rebels plane that they stole from daffy that was shot down.

 

the French have a defence budget? Just how much can it cost to throw down thier weapons and run ?

 

****ing sky news

 

It kind of does sort our prOblems out seeing as there is alot of oil there

 

I don't see any coherent opposition to the intervention, just stuff about practicality and cost...a pretty weak position.

Almost as weak as the Gadaffi regimes legitimacy.

 

Well bugger me the french are already flying sortie's over libya.

 

French!!

 

Wonder why they're so keen? Usually they're against this sort of stuff completely.

 

Think they will fly a few hours tonight then fek off back home

 

you can just imagine the french pilots flying, whilst smoking a cigerette, with platter of various cheeses balanced on the knee

anyway all very worrying -- but great TV

 

Yeah with a ring of onions around their necks.

 

Typical French! Anything for a holiday!

 

Wow it's going down!

 

 

well they lost in the rugby

 

Where are the Tomahawks deploying from ships or our subs?

 

if you mean our cruise missiles -- I believe from the Tornado's (Flying from Norfolk)

THe Americans -- I think Ships

 

Reading my posts anyone would believe??? Nope, just you. If you really think the cost difference between being active on 3 fronts is remotely the same as keeping our forces trained and prepared, but not being actively engaged on any front then the only conclusion I can reach is you are a retard.

 

I suspect that they are hoping a little that the 'shock and awe' will stress the Gadaffi regime and make it fall, as it is well known that Desert Fox (the 1998 bombing of Saddam) almost tipped Saddam over.

Anyway it's interesting that the US is now bombing Gadaffi in the context of Lockabie. The reach of US justice if long it would seem...they don't forget.