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Old 23 February 2011, 05:55 PM
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Duckhams Q20/50 you got plenty of froth in oil filler cap, ok for the lawn mower maybe.

If you phone Subaru dealers and check which oil they use you will find many use semi synthetic and others a fully synthetic and they will defend using the semi synthetic. So it must meet the required spec.

Has anyone used a semi synthetic which caused their engine to fail?
Old 23 February 2011, 07:34 PM
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Unless you put an oil in that is nothing like the right oil, eg hydraulic oil in an engine, any problems from using a less than ideal oil will take a while to show.

Subaru don't specify that the car needs to use a mineral, semi or full synthetic, just a 10w-40, or in newer cars, a 5w-30. A synthetic oil gives better protection than a mineral or semi synthetic, so using a full synthetic is a step up in protection. I see that as a pretty important thing with turbo cars, the engines work hard so better protection helps to prevent engine wear and failures. The extra cost of a synthetic (say £20 per oil change) is pretty small compared to the cost of serious engine repairs.

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Old 26 February 2011, 11:53 AM
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Well just dropped engine off at API very impressive workshop turns out my engine has a vf something turbo pink injectors and other bits and bobs. Just waiting to hear wat the damage is.
Old 26 February 2011, 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by chiroman
Duckhams Q20/50 you got plenty of froth in oil filler cap, ok for the lawn mower maybe.
The old man's 1982 XJ-S V12 ran on Duckhams 20w-50 from new, later on it ran on QXR.

Done 46,000 miles and still going strong.....runs on 10w-40 magnatec nowadays. Probably a bit thin for hard driving in summer, but for local use it suffices fine, maybe if it was driven hard I'd go for a 10w-50.

Maybe its durability is due to a pitiful 295BHP being shared out between 12 cylinders and a heavily nitrided crank. I don't ever recall a Jag V12 knackering its crank journals. There is something in that, an Impreza with just 4 journals having to share 250+ BHP between them; something has to give.

If you phone Subaru dealers and check which oil they use you will find many use semi synthetic and others a fully synthetic and they will defend using the semi synthetic. So it must meet the required spec.

Has anyone used a semi synthetic which caused their engine to fail?
FWIW my old Impreza has ran on Magnatec semi-synth 10W40 since I bought it, and continues to do so under its current owner on 6 month oil change intervals. I believed the dealer used Helix semi-synth before I owned it. It was a MY97 though.

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Old 26 February 2011, 07:26 PM
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we service an 08 sti which has now done 90.000 miles and we use a 5-30 fully syn and have had no probs, maybe it has a lot to do with warm up and warm down??
Old 26 February 2011, 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Nathan6301
Well just dropped engine off at API very impressive workshop turns out my engine has a vf something turbo pink injectors and other bits and bobs. Just waiting to hear wat the damage is.
I hope it is all OK and not too expensive. Have you had the car long? I'm new here and was really sad to hear what happened to your car.
Old 27 February 2011, 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by ALi-B
The old man's 1982 XJ-S V12 ran on Duckhams 20w-50 from new, later on it ran on QXR.

Done 46,000 miles and still going strong.....runs on 10w-40 magnatec nowadays. Probably a bit thin for hard driving in summer, but for local use it suffices fine, maybe if it was driven hard I'd go for a 10w-50.

Maybe its durability is due to a pitiful 295BHP being shared out between 12 cylinders and a heavily nitrided crank. I don't ever recall a Jag V12 knackering its crank journals. There is something in that, an Impreza with just 4 journals having to share 250+ BHP between them; something has to give.



FWIW my old Impreza has ran on Magnatec semi-synth 10W40 since I bought it, and continues to do so under its current owner on 6 month oil change intervals. I believed the dealer used Helix semi-synth before I owned it. It was a MY97 though.
Modern engines work so much harder, especially turboed ones that a better oil is definately a good idea
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Originally Posted by visorgirl
I hope it is all OK and not too expensive. Have you had the car long? I'm new here and was really sad to hear what happened to your car.
Had the car 3 months, did have a classic 1999 on my 18th and it suffered pre ignition failure and said I wouldn't get another scooby but couldn't resist so 2 years later after the m3 got my 04 wrx and then this happends lol, but this is the joy with the scoobys
Old 05 March 2011, 11:13 AM
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Come on then Nathan any news?

Also after reading this thread there is no mention of 10/60 ? Yet most i know run this oil in their subarus
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Originally Posted by Nathan6301
Had the car 3 months, did have a classic 1999 on my 18th and it suffered pre ignition failure
Owch..messy. JDM import or MAF failure?
Old 20 March 2011, 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by ALi-B
Owch..messy. JDM import or MAF failure?
Yep Maf failure

Well picked engine up Saturday damage was a heavily worn big end bearing, replaced crank, bearings and cons.
Fitted it today and fired first time no trouble,
I must say I will be taking my future scoobys to David at Api there attention to detail is amazing I could have stayed all day just chatting to the staff.
The whole package was a bargain and I am happy with the outcome. Now just a little trip to the mappers and she will be sorted. As for the causes to the damage at the start I think it was just a coinsadance and my luck
Old 21 March 2011, 12:07 AM
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Good to hear buddy, hope you have many years of trouble free motoring and can enjoy the scooby now
Old 21 March 2011, 12:53 AM
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My Blob eye was fine, 39000 miles, friday full service, quick run out then on rollers for 3 runs, didn't get the car back as the engine is knocking! and they say it's big ends. getting the car back here tomorrow.
They use the oil they used in mine on loads of scoobies and had no problems.
I will find out what oil they used as this is interesting reading and will post on here what they used.
Had the car 2 weeks and reading this and how sensitve the engines appear to be I'm wondering if I did the right thing buying one

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Old 21 March 2011, 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Nathan6301
Yep Maf failure

I must say I will be taking my future scoobys to David at Api there attention to detail is amazing I could have stayed all day just chatting to the staff.
Sounds like you expect all of them to go pop!

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Old 21 March 2011, 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Pag
My Blob eye was fine, 39000 miles, friday full service, quick run out then on rollers for 3 runs, didn't get the car back as the engine is knocking! and they say it's big ends. getting the car back here tomorrow.
They use the oil they used in mine on loads of scoobies and had no problems.
I will find out what oil they used as this is interesting reading and will post on here what they used.
Had the car 2 weeks and reading this and how sensitve the engines appear to be I'm wondering if I did the right thing buying one

Regards

Paul
10w 40 was put in mine. seems it was just bad luck
Old 21 March 2011, 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Pag
10w 40 was put in mine. seems it was just bad luck
The dreaded 'after a service' syndrome?

JohnD
Old 22 March 2011, 08:14 PM
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jesus. never thought changing the oil could be so disasterous!!!! mine needs doin soon
Old 22 March 2011, 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by fleety69
jesus. never thought changing the oil could be so disasterous!!!! mine needs doin soon
you will all have failures if you dont disconnect crank sensor
Old 22 March 2011, 08:32 PM
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i was going to take mine to scoobyclinic for a service/general checkover, is the oil they use ok?? do they come recomended??
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Originally Posted by fleety69
i was going to take mine to scoobyclinic for a service/general checkover, is the oil they use ok?? do they come recomended??
1o/40 if standard
Old 22 March 2011, 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Pag
10w 40 was put in mine. seems it was just bad luck
did they disconect cam sensor there are loads off threads on here if you search about blobs going **** up after oil changes incorrect procedure
Old 22 March 2011, 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by nick schofield
did they disconect cam sensor there are loads off threads on here if you search about blobs going **** up after oil changes incorrect procedure
Yeah they did Nick. I was going to get the old oil checked for contaminets like slick 50 or anything that might have been added to keep the engine noise down but they tipped it.
The engine doesn't make that much noise but it is on it's way out so just sitting on my drive for now.
It was defo on it's way out already as once the oil was changed it was just run round the block then 3 runs on the rollers and the dyno picked a knock up and retarded the ignition I guess because it was 15 bhp down from the previous run. then I noticed the knock when I left so went straight back.
They checked it out and found big end failure.

driving around my trusty FTO till it gets fixed

Paul
Old 23 March 2011, 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by fleety69
i was going to take mine to scoobyclinic for a service/general checkover, is the oil they use ok?? do they come recomended??

Clinic are a class act, they'll do it right.

David APi

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Originally Posted by Nathan6301
Yep Maf failure

Well picked engine up Saturday damage was a heavily worn big end bearing, replaced crank, bearings and cons.
Fitted it today and fired first time no trouble,
I must say I will be taking my future scoobys to David at Api there attention to detail is amazing I could have stayed all day just chatting to the staff.
The whole package was a bargain and I am happy with the outcome. Now just a little trip to the mappers and she will be sorted. As for the causes to the damage at the start I think it was just a coinsadance and my luck
Glad to help and that you are happy Thanks for your custom.

Don't forget oil & filter change at 1000 miles up to 4000 rpm til then and low boost.

Good Luck David APi
Old 23 March 2011, 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by APIDavid
Glad to help and that you are happy Thanks for your custom.

Don't forget oil & filter change at 1000 miles up to 4000 rpm til then and low boost.

Good Luck David APi
What oil did you use in my engine as I forgot to ask David ?
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15W40 Semi synthetic
Old 23 March 2011, 03:15 PM
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I'm using mobil 0w 40 in mine should this be changed for something more like Fuchs 15w 50

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Old 23 March 2011, 03:20 PM
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Anything - as long as you get the 0w out NOW
Old 23 March 2011, 05:04 PM
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Roger I'll get that sorted

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What year is your Impreza? And how long has the 0w-40 been in there?

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