What would you do if you hit a dog?
12 April 2002, 01:47 PM
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I'm with Reidy on this one. The first thing you should do is call the vets. Have a look at the dog / cat see if it looks alive or not and bear in mind that sometime it is best not to move them. Get someone to go and get a blandket from the nearest house to keep the animal warm (less likely to go in shock that way).
These are peoples pets. They mean just as much to some people as children do, so do exactly as you would for a child (except call the vets instead of the ambulance of course!)
I would kill someone who ran over my cats and just left it. Bear that in mind.
These are peoples pets. They mean just as much to some people as children do, so do exactly as you would for a child (except call the vets instead of the ambulance of course!)
I would kill someone who ran over my cats and just left it. Bear that in mind.
12 April 2002, 01:50 PM
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Strap it to the grill and drive home whooping and hollering and throwing beer cans at passers by.
Seriously - You are obliged to report it to the police, but nothing else. You should probably take it to a vet or try to let the owner know but you have no legal obligation to do so. 2 of my brothers-in-law are vets, so this is advice from both police and RCVS
Seriously - You are obliged to report it to the police, but nothing else. You should probably take it to a vet or try to let the owner know but you have no legal obligation to do so. 2 of my brothers-in-law are vets, so this is advice from both police and RCVS
12 April 2002, 01:55 PM
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yes but theres a moral obligation.
You wouldnt want to run over a cat with an owner such as myself and not call the vets (if its still alive)/ not do anything about it, because you would end up in a worse state than the cat.
(I wouldn't have a problem with anyone who did the right thing re reporting it trying to help btw, even if they had just run it over, and even if it was their fault.)
You wouldnt want to run over a cat with an owner such as myself and not call the vets (if its still alive)/ not do anything about it, because you would end up in a worse state than the cat.
(I wouldn't have a problem with anyone who did the right thing re reporting it trying to help btw, even if they had just run it over, and even if it was their fault.)
12 April 2002, 02:02 PM
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Have to agree with Richard, if a dog ran out in front of my car and caused damage I would go after the owners for the repair bill.
Secondly I also have a dog (a b&w springer spaniel), that has on occasion got out and no doubt ran across roads, for this very reason it is insured. I think any responsible owner would be daft not to considering it costs bugger all covers vet's bills and the last thing you'd want to be worrying about is paying for damage to someone's car if they'd just run your dog over.
And yes I would stop for dogs and cats, but hitting wildlife just goes with where I live and I've hit various things from rabbits, squirrels, pheasants etc. Just glad no deer, they make a real mess, next door neightbour hit one head on at 60 and their car was a few inches shorter.
Edit, can't get enough peasants these days so sitcking to pheasants
[Edited by Andrewza - 4/12/2002 2:37:42 PM]
Secondly I also have a dog (a b&w springer spaniel), that has on occasion got out and no doubt ran across roads, for this very reason it is insured. I think any responsible owner would be daft not to considering it costs bugger all covers vet's bills and the last thing you'd want to be worrying about is paying for damage to someone's car if they'd just run your dog over.
And yes I would stop for dogs and cats, but hitting wildlife just goes with where I live and I've hit various things from rabbits, squirrels, pheasants etc. Just glad no deer, they make a real mess, next door neightbour hit one head on at 60 and their car was a few inches shorter.
Edit, can't get enough peasants these days so sitcking to pheasants
[Edited by Andrewza - 4/12/2002 2:37:42 PM]
12 April 2002, 02:06 PM
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Im going to give Richard some support here as i think i know what hes getting at!
Say there was an owner out with their dog and it bolted etc, owner couldnt get to dog before dog ran out infront of car
and you run the dog over.... in a situation like that, the owner probably wouldnt have much say and would probably pay for your repairs if any damage occurred, on the other hand, if the dog was let out to do what it wanted during the day and said animal was run over by a driver then the owner is responsible and should face the law for not having the dog restrained.
Points now being is that the first instance is an accident that happened and most owners would pay up (thus the reason you can get pet insurance nowerdays) the second is due to negligence on behalf of the owner and said owner should be done for it.
Saying that, i have run a cat over, on a country road and no way was i stopping for it (sounds cruel but it was pretty dead after hearing it crunch under both sets of tyres ) and i am not going to be the cause of an accident (again ) due to animals in the roads etc, next time ill run it over and think about the consequences later (and by the way i rolled a car due to avoidance of an animal on a corner).
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Say there was an owner out with their dog and it bolted etc, owner couldnt get to dog before dog ran out infront of car
and you run the dog over.... in a situation like that, the owner probably wouldnt have much say and would probably pay for your repairs if any damage occurred, on the other hand, if the dog was let out to do what it wanted during the day and said animal was run over by a driver then the owner is responsible and should face the law for not having the dog restrained.Points now being is that the first instance is an accident that happened and most owners would pay up (thus the reason you can get pet insurance nowerdays) the second is due to negligence on behalf of the owner and said owner should be done for it.
Saying that, i have run a cat over, on a country road and no way was i stopping for it (sounds cruel but it was pretty dead after hearing it crunch under both sets of tyres
) and i am not going to be the cause of an accident (again ) due to animals in the roads etc, next time ill run it over and think about the consequences later (and by the way i rolled a car due to avoidance of an animal on a corner).Tony
12 April 2002, 02:12 PM
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agree that if owner is being irresponsible for a dog then yes, you may have a case. Dogs are pretty stupid, so they need someone to be responsible for them. But the point is people here are implying they wouldnt do anything other than worry about their car. Perhaps their first thought should be ' is it ok, shall I get it to a vets' rather than ' who will pay for the repair bill on my car'
12 April 2002, 02:14 PM
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Your personal opinion is one I'd agree with on a lot of things I'm sure but on this occasion I hope you understand that your comments (along with others on here) in this case could be (and have been) viewed by people (me) as offensive.
you and your cronies disgust me
In my opinion an animals life is worth more than a cars
I sign off now and will not be reading on.
12 April 2002, 02:18 PM
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I am a animal lover and see that most of you are not by your comments.
I would stop and try to help the animal if I couldn’t then I would probley panic because I would not like to see it in pain.
Then drive it to the nearest vets and leave it there, if it was dead then I would ring the police and report it.
Us animal lovers care....
Chel xxx
I would stop and try to help the animal if I couldn’t then I would probley panic because I would not like to see it in pain.
Then drive it to the nearest vets and leave it there, if it was dead then I would ring the police and report it.
Us animal lovers care....
Chel xxx
12 April 2002, 02:21 PM
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Richard has put alot of good point forward, he has said that if the owner was negligent then he would sue (as i put in my last post) and he has made no comments about a car being more precious than an animal, its just that if you swerve in a car your going to do alot more damage than if you run an animal over....
Animals are stupid unfortunately even our little rescued Yorkshire terrier (a proper one by the way and not some toy thing 
) is a bit over enthusiastic at times (mad mainly ) but id be upset if she was run over, of course i would but if it stopped the driver from hitting a pedestrian it would be worth it.
Tony
Animals are stupid unfortunately
even our little rescued Yorkshire terrier (a proper one by the way and not some toy thing ) is a bit over enthusiastic at times (mad mainly ) but id be upset if she was run over, of course i would but if it stopped the driver from hitting a pedestrian it would be worth it.Tony
12 April 2002, 02:23 PM
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I'm with Richard on this as well. If you look after your pet properly it most likely wont get run over. If you don't look after it, let it slip the lead etc, its your fault, not mine, so you should pay the price. Also - I wouldn't feel a moral obligation to help your dog if you couldn't be bothered to look after it yourself. Most vets run a business - there is no state funding, so when they take in a 'stray' and treat it, they are paying out of their own pocket. OK - the PDSA covers some of the cost, but not much, so who is going to cover the cost if I take a dog to the vets? Once again, it won't be me.
12 April 2002, 02:28 PM
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tony,
whos chelsie?
Anyway, I am thinking more along the lines of cats, in which case they are unlikely to be on a road where you ant stop. I think its rare that any animal would be on a road where you can't stop because what the hell is the owner doing letting it near a big road anyway. But agree if that was the case then, maybe do a mobile call instead, but I think its a rare occasion where you can't stop.
Oh and the other Tony - Richard did ake comments about animals lives being worth less. Richard - I think this is the only thing I have ever violently disagreed with you on!! Most of the time you are right about stuff!!!
whos chelsie?
Anyway, I am thinking more along the lines of cats, in which case they are unlikely to be on a road where you ant stop. I think its rare that any animal would be on a road where you can't stop because what the hell is the owner doing letting it near a big road anyway. But agree if that was the case then, maybe do a mobile call instead, but I think its a rare occasion where you can't stop.
Oh and the other Tony - Richard did ake comments about animals lives being worth less. Richard - I think this is the only thing I have ever violently disagreed with you on!! Most of the time you are right about stuff!!!
12 April 2002, 02:35 PM
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Richard - yes, certainely better than Evo forum in respect of structured debates.
Tony - I didnt realise anyone was stupid enough to let their animals near those sortsof roads, but I guess it is different with a dog as you have to walk them.
I purposely live well away from any main roads in order to avoid this sort of thing!
Tony - I didnt realise anyone was stupid enough to let their animals near those sortsof roads, but I guess it is different with a dog as you have to walk them.
I purposely live well away from any main roads in order to avoid this sort of thing!
12 April 2002, 02:38 PM
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If I hit a domestic animal, I would gladly pay the Vet to help it (if I thought it would).....Thats just the kind of guy I am, and I think Reidy has got it just about right - sometimes this place makes me sick.......
Like Dennis Hopper said last night (I think it applies to some of you here) - "Don't even attempt to grow a brain!"
If I believed in reincarnation I would fukcing hope some of you come back as dogs and cats, so the children that you have and instill your quality values into can exercise them on you.....
Thanks for listening you crazy kids
Like Dennis Hopper said last night (I think it applies to some of you here) - "Don't even attempt to grow a brain!"
If I believed in reincarnation I would fukcing hope some of you come back as dogs and cats, so the children that you have and instill your quality values into can exercise them on you.....
Thanks for listening you crazy kids
12 April 2002, 02:42 PM
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Just been informed of this thread, heres a few thoughts.
Richard Askew - you are saying that if if a dog ran out in front of you, and you couldnt stop in a reasonable time, you would hit it, and just carry on.
Right.
Now, look at it this way:
If you were running along a pathway, and a dog ran out from a hedgeway or similar, on a leash, or not, but you didnt see it coming [thats the important part here] and you tripped, landed akwardly on top of it, and broke its hips, requiring it to be put down [or similar] if you couldnt immediately see the owner, would you just carry on running?
I think not.
The only reason you would keep on driving is because you know you can get away with it.
If it were a bit more personal, you wouldnt dare walk way, simply because there was too much chance of being found out. And if you broke your ankle falling over the now ex-dog, you would not DARE to sue the owner for loss of earnings.
Suddenly, Richard, I dont like you much. As you say, everyone has opinions, and they're much like ***** - some are Ok, but others really stink.
Yours is ******* reeking in this case.
IMO, of course.
And the arguement that pets arent as valueable as people:
not to you, but to some people, they are. Having lived in Coffin Dodger Central - a wee villiage in the north of scotland - I've seen several elderly residents just 'give up' after their pet has died, simply because without their pet, they are utterly alone.
So dont make simple judgements on complex subjects, because most of you are so out of your league here its not funny.
Richard Askew - you are saying that if if a dog ran out in front of you, and you couldnt stop in a reasonable time, you would hit it, and just carry on.
Right.
Now, look at it this way:
If you were running along a pathway, and a dog ran out from a hedgeway or similar, on a leash, or not, but you didnt see it coming [thats the important part here] and you tripped, landed akwardly on top of it, and broke its hips, requiring it to be put down [or similar] if you couldnt immediately see the owner, would you just carry on running?
I think not.
The only reason you would keep on driving is because you know you can get away with it.
If it were a bit more personal, you wouldnt dare walk way, simply because there was too much chance of being found out. And if you broke your ankle falling over the now ex-dog, you would not DARE to sue the owner for loss of earnings.
Suddenly, Richard, I dont like you much. As you say, everyone has opinions, and they're much like ***** - some are Ok, but others really stink.
Yours is ******* reeking in this case.
IMO, of course.
And the arguement that pets arent as valueable as people:
not to you, but to some people, they are. Having lived in Coffin Dodger Central - a wee villiage in the north of scotland - I've seen several elderly residents just 'give up' after their pet has died, simply because without their pet, they are utterly alone.
So dont make simple judgements on complex subjects, because most of you are so out of your league here its not funny.
12 April 2002, 02:45 PM
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FFS - some of you seem to have missed the point completely. I don't believe anyone on the anti-animal side launched personal attacks on the animal lovers, whereas.......................
The simple question about whether to stop/act/report was answered perfectly well. Some of the other comments, mine included, were part jest/part serious. As usual some people went waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay over the top and forgot about the thing that keeps being pointed out.
I am a humble and often frequenter of the MuppetBoard - some of the personal attack comments on this thread wouldn't be tolerated on that board.
The simple question about whether to stop/act/report was answered perfectly well. Some of the other comments, mine included, were part jest/part serious. As usual some people went waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay over the top and forgot about the thing that keeps being pointed out.
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12 April 2002, 02:47 PM
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Richard Askew - you are saying that if if a dog ran out in front of you, and you couldnt stop in a reasonable time, you would hit it, and just carry on.
..the point I made was that IF I hit a dog AND the owner was negligent I would sue..
Suddenly, Richard, I dont like you much.
because most of you are so out of your league here its not funny
12 April 2002, 02:53 PM
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Richy Baby,
"Not worried about flame suit..I just dislike animals "
Maybe it's that line (the one above) that might just possibly convey a slightly blase (don't give a ****) attitude to the whole affair and get some people a tad riled eh?
Whaddya reckon huh?
Thanks again
"Not worried about flame suit..I just dislike animals
"Maybe it's that line (the one above) that might just possibly convey a slightly blase (don't give a ****) attitude to the whole affair and get some people a tad riled eh?
Whaddya reckon huh?
Thanks again
12 April 2002, 02:53 PM
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My dog is chipped ..
Richard, on a lighter note, if ever I accidentally run you over, don't be too upset if I don't stop
12 April 2002, 02:55 PM
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"Not worried about flame suit..I just dislike animals "
Maybe it's that line (the one above) that might just possibly convey a slightly blase (don't give a ****) attitude to the whole affair and get some people a tad riled eh?
Whaddya reckon huh?
Maybe it's that line (the one above) that might just possibly convey a slightly blase (don't give a ****) attitude to the whole affair and get some people a tad riled eh?
Whaddya reckon huh?
12 April 2002, 02:55 PM
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I for one have never said I wouldn't do something about it. But if there wasn't a sensible place to stop, I'd drive on and pull over to phone the police. Seems that this would be the correct thing to do.
I think there is too much misunderstanding in this thread.
I think there is too much misunderstanding in this thread.
12 April 2002, 02:59 PM
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I look at it from a pet owners point of view. I have two cats and to be honest if someone run them over and then had the attiude that some of you have displayed this afternoon then I would have to be physically restrained from kicking the **** out of them.
Having said that, it prolly wont happen as my two cats are 17 years old and they cant get up to much as they are asleep for around 22 hours of the day.
Joking aside, a pet can become as much a part of a family as any human can. For some people its all they have. The cavaliar attitude to other peoples feelings that I have read on this thread saddens me.
astraboy.
Having said that, it prolly wont happen as my two cats are 17 years old and they cant get up to much as they are asleep for around 22 hours of the day.
Joking aside, a pet can become as much a part of a family as any human can. For some people its all they have. The cavaliar attitude to other peoples feelings that I have read on this thread saddens me.
astraboy.
12 April 2002, 03:00 PM
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As for putting it out of its misery
If you'd read the whole of my comments you'd see I made a clear distinction between seriously injured and not injured, AND gone on to point out that even if an animal doesn't look injured, shock can do weird thing.
Quote me by all means, but make sure you've understood what you are quoting.
12 April 2002, 03:00 PM
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Just my thoughts and relating to domestic pets.
I would firstly try and help the animal in anyway I could at the scene, call out or take it to a vet and notify the police.
Then I would take all steps possible to track down the owner and recover any costs that I have incurred including vets bills and damage to the car. If the animal was on a road unsupervised they were negligent.
So then there are two sides to this, as an animal lover I could not standby and watch something suffer, but the owners negligence is not going to be paid for by me.
Lee
I would firstly try and help the animal in anyway I could at the scene, call out or take it to a vet and notify the police.
Then I would take all steps possible to track down the owner and recover any costs that I have incurred including vets bills and damage to the car. If the animal was on a road unsupervised they were negligent.
So then there are two sides to this, as an animal lover I could not standby and watch something suffer, but the owners negligence is not going to be paid for by me.
Lee