Nine More scumbags arrested for the grooming of young girls for sex
11 May 2012, 12:47 PM
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Think this thread is making one thing abundantly clear, regardless of race we all think these guys are scum and that we arent that different, as a white brit we tend to be very quick to beat ourselves up and blame ourselves so it is nice to see it isnt just us that feel dispair with other members of their cultures.
What I hate about these cases is it gives those predisposed to the enjoyment of racism some ammunition, this isnt just an Asian problem but there have been a few instances of this happening from within the Asian community, probably dissproportionate to the makeup of the country so it needs looking at and sorting, without the handwringers shouting racist, if you have a problem you deal with the cause rather than skirt around it, you dont put mouse traps down to catch Pigeons.
What I hate about these cases is it gives those predisposed to the enjoyment of racism some ammunition, this isnt just an Asian problem but there have been a few instances of this happening from within the Asian community, probably dissproportionate to the makeup of the country so it needs looking at and sorting, without the handwringers shouting racist, if you have a problem you deal with the cause rather than skirt around it, you dont put mouse traps down to catch Pigeons.
11 May 2012, 02:42 PM
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The basic fact is, whatever the nationality of those committing such heinous crimes, it is to be hoped that they will be shown neither fear nor favour and get hammered very heavily by the courts. I feel that a life sentence could be justified for that sort of behaviour.
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11 May 2012, 02:58 PM
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agree les, that is the basic fact. but its also highlighting a serious problem that needs addressing
no point just sentencing them for life and move on.
prevention needs to be the ultimate aim.
i agree a true life sentance is required - there behaviour was cold and calculated over a period of time. should never be allowed to present a risk to anyone again.
no point just sentencing them for life and move on.
prevention needs to be the ultimate aim.
i agree a true life sentance is required - there behaviour was cold and calculated over a period of time. should never be allowed to present a risk to anyone again.
12 May 2012, 12:05 PM
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Uh-oh, not again!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...ester-18045244
Collection of white-guys we reckon???
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...ester-18045244
Collection of white-guys we reckon???
12 May 2012, 12:45 PM
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Hi Lee.
I'm not offended at all. I was having a bit of bad day yesterday (back woes again!) and reading Shaid's post which I slightly misinterpreted set me off. I do agree with Shaid about the implications of these incidents and perhaps there is a little media sensationalism, but there's no smoke without fire. To quote someone 'all it takes for evil to flourish is good men to stand by and do nothing'.
I'm not offended at all. I was having a bit of bad day yesterday (back woes again!) and reading Shaid's post which I slightly misinterpreted set me off. I do agree with Shaid about the implications of these incidents and perhaps there is a little media sensationalism, but there's no smoke without fire. To quote someone 'all it takes for evil to flourish is good men to stand by and do nothing'.
Uh-oh, not again!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...ester-18045244
Collection of white-guys we reckon???
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...ester-18045244
Collection of white-guys we reckon???
http://menmedia.co.uk/manchestereven...be-in-rochdale
A string of suspects were tracked down by officers and a number of arrests have now been made. The men in question are all from Asian and Afro-Caribbean backgrounds, the M.E.N. understands.
12 May 2012, 08:30 PM
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Thanks for clarifying things a little further.
I understand your fustration when incidents involving Pakistani individuals surface in the media, it's a case of 'oh no not again'. One cannot but feel ashamed and slighty guilty just by ethnic association.
Sexual exploitation of females is not something new, it's been happening since time immemorial. In places like Thailand it froms part of the backbone of the tourist economy. Even here in the UK, thousands of women and girls (a lot of them underage) are brought in to the country to work as prostitutes. It's a sad reflection of our society but a stark reality nonetheless.
Another decline I've personally noticed over the last three decades is the loss of childhood and innocence. With the constant bombardment via TV, films and various other media. Children's language, dress code and general behaviour has become incosistent with their age. Maybe I'm being a fuddy duddy but I see young girls of twelve and thirteen dressed in a manner that makes them appear much older. Often driving down the Batley Golden Mile and passing the various clubs and bars, I'm gobsmacked at the clothing or lack thereof on some of the females. I'm not suggesting that this gives licence for sexual predators to do what the want but the lack of modesty is worrying.
I understand your fustration when incidents involving Pakistani individuals surface in the media, it's a case of 'oh no not again'. One cannot but feel ashamed and slighty guilty just by ethnic association.
Sexual exploitation of females is not something new, it's been happening since time immemorial. In places like Thailand it froms part of the backbone of the tourist economy. Even here in the UK, thousands of women and girls (a lot of them underage) are brought in to the country to work as prostitutes. It's a sad reflection of our society but a stark reality nonetheless.
Another decline I've personally noticed over the last three decades is the loss of childhood and innocence. With the constant bombardment via TV, films and various other media. Children's language, dress code and general behaviour has become incosistent with their age. Maybe I'm being a fuddy duddy but I see young girls of twelve and thirteen dressed in a manner that makes them appear much older. Often driving down the Batley Golden Mile and passing the various clubs and bars, I'm gobsmacked at the clothing or lack thereof on some of the females. I'm not suggesting that this gives licence for sexual predators to do what the want but the lack of modesty is worrying.
As for the moral decline that is something that i've been noting for a while. For example remember that animation 'Shrek'. Shrek found lord Fawkwards castle he made a comment about how big it is and followed it up by 'do you think he's trying to compensate for something?' then winked. We all know what that means or maybe i'm just a dirty bugger but why is there any need for this in a Children's movie? Also i remeber when i was a wee lad all the pop stars wore clothes, now they try to wear as little as possible. Even Indian movies. I used to watch them with my parent's but nowadays i gringe at the thought of watching a movie with my parents as i feel thoroughly embarrassed. The film industry might call it progression however i see it as a step backwards. Women ARE used as sexual objects throughout the media.
Going back to these cretins in question has anyone else noticed they look like rats?
12 May 2012, 09:01 PM
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As for the moral decline that is something that i've been noting for a while. For example remember that animation 'Shrek'. Shrek found lord Fawkwards castle he made a comment about how big it is and followed it up by 'do you think he's trying to compensate for something?' then winked. We all know what that means or maybe i'm just a dirty bugger but why is there any need for this in a Children's movie?
The production was North American and they don't really do (or indeed get) the British "Carry on" type of humour.
Having said that, according to Wiki-
The name Farquaad is thought to be a way to get away with saying "****wad" in a children's film.
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13 May 2012, 07:24 AM
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I didn't want to say that 
I agree with your observations on the sexualisation of children/young people though.
Pre-pubescant girls dressed up as though they are sex-workers on their way to school is not a good look IMO. What makes their parent/s "think" otherwise?
Potential future income stream perhaps?
Maybe I'm the one out of touch on this.
I agree with your observations on the sexualisation of children/young people though.
Pre-pubescant girls dressed up as though they are sex-workers on their way to school is not a good look IMO. What makes their parent/s "think" otherwise?
Potential future income stream perhaps?Maybe I'm the one out of touch on this.
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21 June 2012, 05:27 PM
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The jailed leader of a Rochdale sex ring has been found guilty of 30 child rape charges.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...ester-18540902
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...ester-18540902
22 June 2012, 11:29 AM
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22 June 2012, 01:54 PM
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This type of crime will be more common, as no limit on immigrant numbers from countries that remain in the stone age, are permitted to enter the UK .
Only an immediate cessation of immigration from the Asian sub continent will bring about some sort of normality to the UK.
Because of PC , cultivated by the left wing , it seems nobody is brave enough to address the issue.
Only an immediate cessation of immigration from the Asian sub continent will bring about some sort of normality to the UK.
Because of PC , cultivated by the left wing , it seems nobody is brave enough to address the issue.
22 June 2012, 02:23 PM
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This type of crime will be more common, as no limit on immigrant numbers from countries that remain in the stone age, are permitted to enter the UK .
Only an immediate cessation of immigration from the Asian sub continent will bring about some sort of normality to the UK.
Because of PC , cultivated by the left wing , it seems nobody is brave enough to address the issue.
Only an immediate cessation of immigration from the Asian sub continent will bring about some sort of normality to the UK.
Because of PC , cultivated by the left wing , it seems nobody is brave enough to address the issue.
22 June 2012, 02:48 PM
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This type of crime will be more common, as no limit on immigrant numbers from countries that remain in the stone age, are permitted to enter the UK .
Only an immediate cessation of immigration from the Asian sub continent will bring about some sort of normality to the UK.
Because of PC , cultivated by the left wing , it seems nobody is brave enough to address the issue.
Only an immediate cessation of immigration from the Asian sub continent will bring about some sort of normality to the UK.
Because of PC , cultivated by the left wing , it seems nobody is brave enough to address the issue.
22 June 2012, 02:49 PM
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This type of crime will be more common, as no limit on immigrant numbers from countries that remain in the stone age, are permitted to enter the UK .
Only an immediate cessation of immigration from the Asian sub continent will bring about some sort of normality to the UK.
Because of PC , cultivated by the left wing , it seems nobody is brave enough to address the issue.
Only an immediate cessation of immigration from the Asian sub continent will bring about some sort of normality to the UK.
Because of PC , cultivated by the left wing , it seems nobody is brave enough to address the issue.
22 June 2012, 03:01 PM
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This type of crime will be more common, as no limit on immigrant numbers from countries that remain in the stone age, are permitted to enter the UK .
Only an immediate cessation of immigration from the Asian sub continent will bring about some sort of normality to the UK.
Because of PC , cultivated by the left wing , it seems nobody is brave enough to address the issue.
Only an immediate cessation of immigration from the Asian sub continent will bring about some sort of normality to the UK.
Because of PC , cultivated by the left wing , it seems nobody is brave enough to address the issue.
Little reality check, my brother works for west midlands police. he's currently dealing with a **** from Cannock (staffs) who was a ring leader of a network of other ***** involving child pornography and i believe child prostitution.
Something like 500k of the worst band potographs were found on one computer.
He is white. He's a businessman and a milionaire. Is that far enough away from a wierdo from "sub-asia" commiting these offences?
22 June 2012, 03:35 PM
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This type of crime will be more common, as no limit on immigrant numbers from countries that remain in the stone age, are permitted to enter the UK .
Only an immediate cessation of immigration from the Asian sub continent will bring about some sort of normality to the UK.
Because of PC , cultivated by the left wing , it seems nobody is brave enough to address the issue.
Only an immediate cessation of immigration from the Asian sub continent will bring about some sort of normality to the UK.
Because of PC , cultivated by the left wing , it seems nobody is brave enough to address the issue.
You are raising the quality of scoobynet! Please post more rubbish.
22 June 2012, 05:39 PM
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Just my 3 pence worth...
I think there is a serious problem with the penal code in this country. Pedo's get 6 months and are out amongst school kids again. Offenders re-offend once out of prison as its more of a holiday camp than a prison.
This child grooming case just shows the low levels of morality which society has stooped to and i don't think there is a colour associated to low levels of morality.
When a person from sub continent offends he's a "Indian muslim" for example but when a white englishman offends he just "joe bloggs" and Christianity is not mentioned. Why are the child sex cases amongst the churches not spoken about more?
I don't think you can associate a colour or religion to crimes such as this. I think there is a general problem with societies individuals and their outlook on life in general and unfortunately this is a product of the system we live under i.e in summer mainly naked women walking the streets, its like showing a starving lion food and saying you can't have it!!!!! Its part of ones innate nature to eat.
I think there is a serious problem with the penal code in this country. Pedo's get 6 months and are out amongst school kids again. Offenders re-offend once out of prison as its more of a holiday camp than a prison.
This child grooming case just shows the low levels of morality which society has stooped to and i don't think there is a colour associated to low levels of morality.
When a person from sub continent offends he's a "Indian muslim" for example but when a white englishman offends he just "joe bloggs" and Christianity is not mentioned. Why are the child sex cases amongst the churches not spoken about more?
I don't think you can associate a colour or religion to crimes such as this. I think there is a general problem with societies individuals and their outlook on life in general and unfortunately this is a product of the system we live under i.e in summer mainly naked women walking the streets, its like showing a starving lion food and saying you can't have it!!!!! Its part of ones innate nature to eat.
22 June 2012, 05:57 PM
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Just my 3 pence worth...
I think there is a serious problem with the penal code in this country. Pedo's get 6 months and are out amongst school kids again. Offenders re-offend once out of prison as its more of a holiday camp than a prison.
This child grooming case just shows the low levels of morality which society has stooped to and i don't think there is a colour associated to low levels of morality.
When a person from sub continent offends he's a "Indian muslim" for example but when a white englishman offends he just "joe bloggs" and Christianity is not mentioned. Why are the child sex cases amongst the churches not spoken about more?
I don't think you can associate a colour or religion to crimes such as this. I think there is a general problem with societies individuals and their outlook on life in general and unfortunately this is a product of the system we live under [I]i.e in summer mainly naked women walking the streets, its like showing a starving lion food and saying you can't have it!!!!! Its part of ones innate nature to eat.[/
I think there is a serious problem with the penal code in this country. Pedo's get 6 months and are out amongst school kids again. Offenders re-offend once out of prison as its more of a holiday camp than a prison.
This child grooming case just shows the low levels of morality which society has stooped to and i don't think there is a colour associated to low levels of morality.
When a person from sub continent offends he's a "Indian muslim" for example but when a white englishman offends he just "joe bloggs" and Christianity is not mentioned. Why are the child sex cases amongst the churches not spoken about more?
I don't think you can associate a colour or religion to crimes such as this. I think there is a general problem with societies individuals and their outlook on life in general and unfortunately this is a product of the system we live under [I]i.e in summer mainly naked women walking the streets, its like showing a starving lion food and saying you can't have it!!!!! Its part of ones innate nature to eat.[/
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22 June 2012, 09:07 PM
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The jailed leader of a Rochdale sex ring has been found guilty of 30 child rape charges.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...ester-18540902
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...ester-18540902
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Wowzers, thats misguided!
Little reality check, my brother works for west midlands police. he's currently dealing with a **** from Cannock (staffs) who was a ring leader of a network of other ***** involving child pornography and i believe child prostitution.
Something like 500k of the worst band potographs were found on one computer.
He is white. He's a businessman and a milionaire. Is that far enough away from a wierdo from "sub-asia" commiting these offences?
Little reality check, my brother works for west midlands police. he's currently dealing with a **** from Cannock (staffs) who was a ring leader of a network of other ***** involving child pornography and i believe child prostitution.
Something like 500k of the worst band potographs were found on one computer.
He is white. He's a businessman and a milionaire. Is that far enough away from a wierdo from "sub-asia" commiting these offences?
22 June 2012, 09:22 PM
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22 June 2012, 09:33 PM
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Based on these patchy data, CEOP suggest there are over 2,000 "potential offenders" in the UK. Most of these, however, will never have been formally identified, let alone arrested, charged or prosecuted. Ethnicity data were available for just one-third. Of these, 49% were white and 46% Asian: the proportion of Pakistani Asians remains unknown. However, in a country where Asians constitute 7% of the general population, this is a striking figure.
Of the 52 suspects charged, 83% were Asian Pakistani, 11% Asian other and 6% white British. These are shocking statistics and the over-representation of Asian offenders within this dataset certainly merits attention.
22 June 2012, 10:03 PM
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You must be the only person on the planet that believes everything the papers say is true. Well if you do here's some other cases from the area, http://menmedia.co.uk/rochdaleobserv...phen-slotwiner
http://menmedia.co.uk/rochdaleobserv...-spared-prison
http://menmedia.co.uk/rochdaleobserv...irls-is-jailed
http://menmedia.co.uk/rochdaleobserv...of_young_girls
http://menmedia.co.uk/rochdaleobserv...m-of-sex-beast
http://menmedia.co.uk/rochdaleobserv...ld_sex_monster
Notice a trend?
http://menmedia.co.uk/rochdaleobserv...-spared-prison
http://menmedia.co.uk/rochdaleobserv...irls-is-jailed
http://menmedia.co.uk/rochdaleobserv...of_young_girls
http://menmedia.co.uk/rochdaleobserv...m-of-sex-beast
http://menmedia.co.uk/rochdaleobserv...ld_sex_monster
Notice a trend?
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22 June 2012, 10:06 PM
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The article was trying to dismantle the 'prejudice' that asians are overrepresented in sex gangs but had to conclude this was difficult given the evidence.
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22 June 2012, 10:06 PM
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