Pakistani men see white girls as 'easy meat', claims Jack Straw
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Why won't you aswer the question?
Here it is again at it clealry includes why I am asking it.
Look Tony you seem to leap on any piece of press that shows Muslims or Pakistanis in a bad light and the real question is why is that?
So perhaps just for once you can answer that question in simple terms. We are all ears! Do not sidestep this one as to do so could well mean people draw their own conclusions if you see what I mean.
To quote f1_fan
Why won't you aswer the question?
Here it is again at it clealry includes why I am asking it.
Look Tony you seem to leap on any piece of press that shows Muslims or Pakistanis in a bad light and the real question is why is that?
So perhaps just for once you can answer that question in simple terms. We are all ears! Do not sidestep this one as to do so could well mean people draw their own conclusions if you see what I mean.
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Interesting read:
Paedophilia 'culturally accepted in south Afghanistan'
"American social scientists employed to help troops understand the local culture reported that homosexual sex was widespread among the Pashtun ethnic group in southern Afghanistan."
"The study, called 'Pashtun Sexuality', said that as well as willing sex between young men, "boys are appreciated for physical beauty and apprenticed to older men for their sexual initiation".
The practice of 'bache bazi' or boy play, is known throughout Afghanistan, but is particularly renowned in the city of Kandahar next to Helmand, where prepubescent boys are widely admired."
Paedophilia 'culturally accepted in south Afghanistan'
"American social scientists employed to help troops understand the local culture reported that homosexual sex was widespread among the Pashtun ethnic group in southern Afghanistan."
"The study, called 'Pashtun Sexuality', said that as well as willing sex between young men, "boys are appreciated for physical beauty and apprenticed to older men for their sexual initiation".
The practice of 'bache bazi' or boy play, is known throughout Afghanistan, but is particularly renowned in the city of Kandahar next to Helmand, where prepubescent boys are widely admired."
In fact its so overtly ghey, "our troops" as such find it quite oppressive as they also want to get off with them.
Back to subject in question: I live in Bradford and would say the abuse/exploitation of white girls clearly does happen. There are dozens of housing projects supporting these girls following rape, drug abuse, life led into prostitution.
There is a lot of poor white trash from council estates, only too ready to be tempted by the flash of money and drugs which tends to come from other sectors. The multitude of mixed race kids is evidence of that alone.
Eventually the old arranged marriage thing kicks in, the young men have had their fun and you see the white girls, plus kids dumped.
older generation will not tolerate white girls one bit: so the youths to some degree have little choice.
I genuinely think the Islamic culture has a lot to answer for because it stops the natural male/female courting: i.e as a poster said earlier: a lot of horny young men.
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To quote f1_fan
Why won't you aswer the question?
Here it is again at it clealry includes why I am asking it.
Look Tony you seem to leap on any piece of press that shows Muslims or Pakistanis in a bad light and the real question is why is that?
So perhaps just for once you can answer that question in simple terms. We are all ears! Do not sidestep this one as to do so could well mean people draw their own conclusions if you see what I mean.
To quote f1_fan
Why won't you aswer the question?
Here it is again at it clealry includes why I am asking it.
Look Tony you seem to leap on any piece of press that shows Muslims or Pakistanis in a bad light and the real question is why is that?
So perhaps just for once you can answer that question in simple terms. We are all ears! Do not sidestep this one as to do so could well mean people draw their own conclusions if you see what I mean.
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He is a ******* troll. i knew that ages ago ffs!!
source you may ask: relatives from afghanistan
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To quote f1_fan
Why won't you aswer the question?
Here it is again at it clealry includes why I am asking it.
Look Tony you seem to leap on any piece of press that shows Muslims or Pakistanis in a bad light and the real question is why is that?
So perhaps just for once you can answer that question in simple terms. We are all ears! Do not sidestep this one as to do so could well mean people draw their own conclusions if you see what I mean.
To quote f1_fan
Why won't you aswer the question?
Here it is again at it clealry includes why I am asking it.
Look Tony you seem to leap on any piece of press that shows Muslims or Pakistanis in a bad light and the real question is why is that?
So perhaps just for once you can answer that question in simple terms. We are all ears! Do not sidestep this one as to do so could well mean people draw their own conclusions if you see what I mean.
The BBC getting in on the act http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/an...tural-britain/
(Thought I'd save TdW the bother of posting this.)
(Thought I'd save TdW the bother of posting this.)
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Also when you have polygamy you end up with a number of young men who have no hope of getting a women and they are alienated.
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Good evening, Asif.
Jolly good.....
.....although I believe Orwell wrote it as a warning, not a blueprint. Perpetual war between two superpowers (of equal military might but opposing ideologies) as an antidote to hegemony? You felt safer? War is Peace! 
Godwin's Law by implication.
Keep reading.
I shall speak as find, Asif. You are as rude to Tony as he has been to you.
Again, I do not require your mandate to offer an opinion, Sir.
Strategically, it not only straddles Africa and the Middle East but it is also an important neighbour of two of the major problem countries in the region - Iraq and Iran. Saudi Arabia's importance to the oil market, with one quarter of the world's oil reserves, speaks for itself. It is also a crucial market for British defence companies. So, whilst the ideological polarity smarts, a little realpolitik has been employed to good effect.
Birthplace of Bin Laden, not "home", Bin Laden despises the Johnny Walker swigging frauds that are the House of Saud for the reasons outlined above and for their collusion with 'The Great Beast'. Additionally, Bin Laden does not adhere to the teachings of Ibn Abd-al-Wahhab but to that of Sayyid Qutb (Qutbism.)
Wahhab did not teach Islamism. That the Neocons touted it as such and that you bought it is beautifully ironic.
Indeed.
Jolly good.....
Keep reading.
At least I answer questions put me.Again, I do not require your mandate to offer an opinion, Sir.
Birthplace of Bin Laden, not "home", Bin Laden despises the Johnny Walker swigging frauds that are the House of Saud for the reasons outlined above and for their collusion with 'The Great Beast'. Additionally, Bin Laden does not adhere to the teachings of Ibn Abd-al-Wahhab but to that of Sayyid Qutb (Qutbism.)
Indeed.
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Good evening, Asif.
Jolly good.....
.....although I believe Orwell wrote it as a warning, not a blueprint. Perpetual war between two superpowers (of equal military might but opposing ideologies) as an antidote to hegemony? You felt safer? War is Peace!
Godwin's Law by implication.
Keep reading.
I shall speak as find, Asif. You are as rude to Tony as he has been to you.
Again, I do not require your mandate to offer an opinion, Sir.
Strategically, it not only straddles Africa and the Middle East but it is also an important neighbour of two of the major problem countries in the region - Iraq and Iran. Saudi Arabia's importance to the oil market, with one quarter of the world's oil reserves, speaks for itself. It is also a crucial market for British defence companies. So, whilst the ideological polarity smarts, a little realpolitik has been employed to good effect.
Birthplace of Bin Laden, not "home", Bin Laden despises the Johnny Walker swigging frauds that are the House of Saud for the reasons outlined above and for their collusion with 'The Great Beast'. Additionally, Bin Laden does not adhere to the teachings of Ibn Abd-al-Wahhab but to that of Sayyid Qutb (Qutbism.)
Wahhab did not teach Islamism. That the Neocons touted it as such and that you bought it is beautifully ironic.
Indeed.
Jolly good.....
.....although I believe Orwell wrote it as a warning, not a blueprint. Perpetual war between two superpowers (of equal military might but opposing ideologies) as an antidote to hegemony? You felt safer? War is Peace!
Godwin's Law by implication.
Keep reading.
I shall speak as find, Asif. You are as rude to Tony as he has been to you.
Again, I do not require your mandate to offer an opinion, Sir.
Strategically, it not only straddles Africa and the Middle East but it is also an important neighbour of two of the major problem countries in the region - Iraq and Iran. Saudi Arabia's importance to the oil market, with one quarter of the world's oil reserves, speaks for itself. It is also a crucial market for British defence companies. So, whilst the ideological polarity smarts, a little realpolitik has been employed to good effect.
Birthplace of Bin Laden, not "home", Bin Laden despises the Johnny Walker swigging frauds that are the House of Saud for the reasons outlined above and for their collusion with 'The Great Beast'. Additionally, Bin Laden does not adhere to the teachings of Ibn Abd-al-Wahhab but to that of Sayyid Qutb (Qutbism.)
Wahhab did not teach Islamism. That the Neocons touted it as such and that you bought it is beautifully ironic.
Indeed.
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You're backing Tony precisely because he's unpopular, for some reason. I don't think his misguided politics have anything to do with it. The debate is immaterial to your agenda, whatever that may be.
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To me this is right-brain political debate, it isn't personal and I endeavour not to make it so. If I disagree with Tony on point, as I have done on numerous occasions, then I will express that.
This shouldn't be about personality....that's base....that's intellectually immature.
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It's not on his behalf. It's on my behalf. I have a worldview that I see as rational and principled and will express it without recourse to personality, 'friendship' or self-preservation.
To me this is right-brain political debate, it isn't personal and I endeavour not to make it so. If I disagree with Tony on point, as I have done on numerous occasions, then I will express that.
This shouldn't be about personality....that's base....that's intellectually immature.
To me this is right-brain political debate, it isn't personal and I endeavour not to make it so. If I disagree with Tony on point, as I have done on numerous occasions, then I will express that.
This shouldn't be about personality....that's base....that's intellectually immature.
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He's not. You were growing on me, but now we are back to square one 
Some of the comments on this thread have disgusted me, honestly.
I am supposed to be going to a wedding of a very good friend, one of yours too and no doubt you will be there. I might not be
You are backing TDW, all the way. Everyone has their worries, but you take it to the extreme and seem to relish in the upset of people like Asif (who incidently I consider a very good friend, also)
Sorry, Mr T, it looks like you and I will never be friends as our views are poles apart.
Please don't pm me about this comment, I am disappointed enough
Some of the comments on this thread have disgusted me, honestly.
I am supposed to be going to a wedding of a very good friend, one of yours too and no doubt you will be there. I might not be
You are backing TDW, all the way. Everyone has their worries, but you take it to the extreme and seem to relish in the upset of people like Asif (who incidently I consider a very good friend, also)
Sorry, Mr T, it looks like you and I will never be friends as our views are poles apart.
Please don't pm me about this comment, I am disappointed enough
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It seems apt for what you seem to desire.
Ok, but it looked a change of subject. Of which, you have STILL not been capable of commenting on your friends' sidestepping, whilst being right on me with that accusation. I suggest that you are seriously sidestepping this issue even to the extent of tarnishing your own reputation.
You are also quite over judgemental of others' motivations and I find your attempts at demeaning those whose opinions do not match your own somewhat disagreeable.
If you can't keep it civilised then you are no better than your friend, Sir.
Strategically, it not only straddles Africa and the Middle East but it is also an important neighbour of two of the major problem countries in the region - Iraq and Iran. Saudi Arabia's importance to the oil market, with one quarter of the world's oil reserves, speaks for itself. It is also a crucial market for British defence companies. So, whilst the ideological polarity smarts, a little realpolitik has been employed to good effect.
Birthplace of Bin Laden, not "home", Bin Laden despises the Johnny Walker swigging frauds that are the House of Saud for the reasons outlined above and for their collusion with 'The Great Beast'. Additionally, Bin Laden does not adhere to the teachings of Ibn Abd-al-Wahhab but to that of Sayyid Qutb (Qutbism.)
I am just using a langauge 'Islamism', that you understand James. The fact that you could not see that is surprising, just about.
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He's not. You were growing on me, but now we are back to square one
Some of the comments on this thread have disgusted me, honestly.
I am supposed to be going to a wedding of a very good friend, one of yours too and no doubt you will be there. I might not be
You are backing TDW, all the way. Everyone has their worries, but you take it to the extreme and seem to relish in the upset of people like Asif (who incidently I consider a very good friend, also)
Sorry, Mr T, it looks like you and I will never be friends as our views are poles apart.
Please don't pm me about this comment, I am disappointed enough
Some of the comments on this thread have disgusted me, honestly.
I am supposed to be going to a wedding of a very good friend, one of yours too and no doubt you will be there. I might not be
You are backing TDW, all the way. Everyone has their worries, but you take it to the extreme and seem to relish in the upset of people like Asif (who incidently I consider a very good friend, also)
Sorry, Mr T, it looks like you and I will never be friends as our views are poles apart.
Please don't pm me about this comment, I am disappointed enough
He's not. You were growing on me, but now we are back to square one
Some of the comments on this thread have disgusted me, honestly.
I am supposed to be going to a wedding of a very good friend, one of yours too and no doubt you will be there. I might not be
You are backing TDW, all the way. Everyone has their worries, but you take it to the extreme and seem to relish in the upset of people like Asif (who incidently I consider a very good friend, also)
Sorry, Mr T, it looks like you and I will never be friends as our views are poles apart.
Please don't pm me about this comment, I am disappointed enough
Some of the comments on this thread have disgusted me, honestly.
I am supposed to be going to a wedding of a very good friend, one of yours too and no doubt you will be there. I might not be
You are backing TDW, all the way. Everyone has their worries, but you take it to the extreme and seem to relish in the upset of people like Asif (who incidently I consider a very good friend, also)
Sorry, Mr T, it looks like you and I will never be friends as our views are poles apart.
Please don't pm me about this comment, I am disappointed enough
I think I've made it clear I don't agree either, but I wouldn't even think of 'taking that out' on good friends.
This is when things get really sad. People differ in opinions, but that is life. Debate it, ignore it, whatever feels best, but please don't let innocent parties get in the cross fire.
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He doesn't debate, he misrepresents. He refuses to answer direct, relevant questions. He persistently dredges up Daily Mail half-stories in order to foment disorder. He accuses people of racism as the default position in his losing arguments. I don't simply dislike "him" I don't even know "him". I simply despise every aspect of what he stands for.
No thanks.