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Old Jan 15, 2011 | 12:26 AM
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Of which, you have STILL not been capable of commenting on your friends' sidestepping, whilst being right on me with that accusation. I suggest that you are seriously sidestepping this issue even to the extent of tarnishing your own reputation.
This point you have. You're pressing me to condemn Tony, well, it ain't happening. It's playground bullying 'cos you don't like the guy and his worldview. I want no part of that.

Goodnight, Asif.
Old Jan 15, 2011 | 12:29 AM
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Relevant questions? You mean demanding I answer witchcraft allegations?

No thanks.
I can't resist this one:

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In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"

Old Jan 15, 2011 | 12:29 AM
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Originally Posted by tony de wonderful
Relevant questions? You mean demanding I answer witchcraft allegations?

No thanks.
Bubble, bubble; toil and trouble.

Fire burn and.... you're a ****.

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Old Jan 15, 2011 | 12:37 AM
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Originally Posted by tony de wonderful
Relevant questions? You mean demanding I answer witchcraft allegations?

No thanks.
How can one person comduct a witch hunt you dolt. I asked the question because I wanted to know the answer. The fact that many others agree with me and also want an answer should tell you something.

Anyway by not answering nyou have answered ... we all know what you are!!!
Old Jan 15, 2011 | 12:39 AM
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This point you have. You're pressing me to condemn Tony, well, it ain't happening. It's playground bullying 'cos you don't like the guy and his worldview. I want no part of that.

Goodnight, Asif.
You need to do better than that James. And to cry bullying after everything that you and your friend have been typing and dishing out to others...well that takes the biscuit.

I don't care about him, honestly. He has no world view or consistent ideaology. The mere thought that he might do gives him too much credit. Ignoring him is the best way to deal with him.

You however operate here based upon detail, consistency, and accuracy. By applying a seeming double standard, just because he is your friend, undermines your own reputation - further, IMO.

I am genuinely sorry to see that.

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Old Jan 15, 2011 | 12:39 AM
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It's not on his behalf. It's on my behalf. I have a worldview that I see as rational and principled and will express it without recourse to personality, 'friendship' or self-preservation.

To me this is right-brain political debate, it isn't personal and I endeavour not to make it so. If I disagree with Tony on point, as I have done on numerous occasions, then I will express that.

This shouldn't be about personality....that's base....that's intellectually immature.
Actually I think you are worse than him becuase you are cleverer with your words.... it is you support of him that gives you away as being just the same as him. The sooner you both get off this crusade the better Scoobynet will be and I assure you I am not the only one that thinks that way.
Old Jan 15, 2011 | 12:44 AM
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Actually I think you are worse than him becuase you are cleverer with your words.... it is you support of him that gives you away as being just the same as him. The sooner you both get off this crusade the better Scoobynet will be and I assure you I am not the only one that thinks that way.

Not going to happen, it is too much for fun for them simple as that. Bottom line is that there is issues in this country but sitting on a subaru forum banging on and on and on about them is not going to change a damn thing.

If it really irks some people that much get off your lazy ***** and do something about, at least that way you doing something productive and making the country a better place for all. Educating people is the best way to improve relations between different cultures and race, not stoking the fire with daily mail type bs!

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Old Jan 15, 2011 | 12:46 AM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
How can one person comduct a witch hunt you dolt. I asked the question because I wanted to know the answer. The fact that many others agree with me and also want an answer should tell you something.

Anyway by not answering nyou have answered ... we all know what you are!!!
No you are trying to accuse me of having a racist - or similar - agenda, and when I refuse to step down to your level and make denials you dishonestly use that as 'proof' that what you said must be true.

It's demagoguery and anyone can see that.

It's a shame you seek to avoid debate and instead attack the person.
Old Jan 15, 2011 | 12:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Bubba po
Bubble, bubble; toil and trouble.

Fire burn and.... you're a ****.
My quote was better than...actually no, yours is much funnier!
Old Jan 15, 2011 | 12:49 AM
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Originally Posted by tony de wonderful
No you are trying to accuse me of having a racist - or similar - agenda, and when I refuse to step down to your level and make denials you dishonestly use that as 'proof' that what you said must be true.

It's demagoguery and anyone can see that.

It's a shame you seek to avoid debate and instead attack the person.
^^^^
The definition of irony.
Old Jan 15, 2011 | 12:56 AM
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^^^^
The definition of irony.
Except it's not though is it. If I say someone is racist I base it on what they say not what I THINK they THINK.
Old Jan 15, 2011 | 12:59 AM
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Pretty sad thread if individuals posting on it actually know one another personally and won't speak to one another based on comments made.

Does James know Tony personally (ie have they met)? Surely Lee and Tony should not fall out based on comments made on here?
Old Jan 15, 2011 | 02:22 AM
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Surely Lee and Tony should not fall out based on comments made on here?
Agreed.

Seriously, what happens on the internet stays on the internet. To take people on face value on what they say on here is a mere fraction of how they maybe in reality.

Over the years I've been party to enough infighting via splinter forums to prove how inhibitive it is by taking this kind of thing out into a face to face reality (or avoiding it, whatever the case maybe).

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Old Jan 15, 2011 | 02:52 AM
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Originally Posted by tony de wonderful
No you are trying to accuse me of having a racist - or similar - agenda, and when I refuse to step down to your level and make denials you dishonestly use that as 'proof' that what you said must be true.

It's demagoguery and anyone can see that.

It's a shame you seek to avoid debate and instead attack the person.
No Tony I am asking you a simple question and it is your refusal to answer that is making you look at best like a bigot and at worst like a racist. You are the one that posts every single liitle thing you can find that shows Muslims and Pakistanis in a bad light and I want to know why. Why won't you tell me?

As for debate, no one can debate with you as you just ignore any question that doesn't meet with your crusade's agenda.

As Bubba said in that respect your post is irony personified.
Old Jan 15, 2011 | 02:54 AM
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Agreed.

Seriously, what happens on the internet stays on the internet. To take people on face value on what they say on here is a mere fraction of how they maybe in reality.
I'd like to agree with your over optimistic view but I think Taylor is probably just the same in real life. I am with Lee on this one.
Old Jan 15, 2011 | 03:12 AM
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No offence (and I assume we mean the same wedding), but are you considering not going because of a difference of opinion with one person? Even a big difference..

I think I've made it clear I don't agree either, but I wouldn't even think of 'taking that out' on good friends.

This is when things get really sad. People differ in opinions, but that is life. Debate it, ignore it, whatever feels best, but please don't let innocent parties get in the cross fire.
While I would mormally agree surely you can see the depth of ill feeling all this is generating. Lee knows that there is a chance, however slim, all this crap will be brought up at said wedding and hence why would she want to put herself through that?
Old Jan 15, 2011 | 10:32 AM
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The two bumchums prime example of America and isreal, you turn a blind eye to each otheres wrongs. you both seem to have an ancient 1950 mentality. every Pakistani or Muslim thread you constantly ready to dish it out. why not have a look at yourself for a change this time around I think you maybe the issue.
Old Jan 15, 2011 | 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by tony de wonderful
No you are trying to accuse me of having a racist - or similar - agenda, and when I refuse to step down to your level and make denials you dishonestly use that as 'proof' that what you said must be true.

It's demagoguery and anyone can see that.

It's a shame you seek to avoid debate and instead attack the person.
Tony your threads do seem to have a dominating theme, even you can't deny that. What is the 'agenda'?
Old Jan 15, 2011 | 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by andythejock01wrx
Pretty sad thread if individuals posting on it actually know one another personally and won't speak to one another based on comments made.

Does James know Tony personally (ie have they met)? Surely Lee and Tony should not fall out based on comments made on here?
I haven't fallen out with anyone, I just refuse to have anything to do with racist comments. The end of my tether has now been reached
I like Maz, Asif and Banny very much and I think they have a lot to offer this board. But, I do wonder how they must feel when they see threads constantly go up with really nasty, offensive racist remarks and digs at anything remotely Muslim/Pakistani.
I'll just have to show superior strength and not look anymore. All this tension is wearing me out
Old Jan 15, 2011 | 11:19 AM
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I like Maz, Asif and Banny very much and I think they have a lot to offer this board.
Yup, I can go along with that.
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Originally Posted by andythejock01wrx
Yup, I can go along with that.
+2 But this isn't a case for justifying their contribution but rather how we as a community react to a retarded fcukwit that arrives with the intent to cause maximum confrontation through posting his racist bolloxs all over NSR...
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+2 But this isn't a case for justifying their contribution but rather how we as a community react to a retarded fcukwit that arrives with the intent to cause maximum confrontation through posting his racist bolloxs all over NSR...
Hadn't spotted your avatar before DCI - I rather like it!
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But this isn't a case for justifying their contribution but rather how we as a community react to a retarded fcukwit that arrives with the intent to cause maximum confrontation through posting his racist bolloxs all over NSR...
You have a way with words
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The two bumchums prime example of America and isreal, you turn a blind eye to each otheres wrongs. you both seem to have an ancient 1950 mentality. every Pakistani or Muslim thread you constantly ready to dish it out. why not have a look at yourself for a change this time around I think you maybe the issue.
Hi Mus,

Can you really start talking about the ancient mentalities of posters on a thread discussing the views of women by muslim men?

I just found it ironic thats all

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Hi Mus,

Can you really start talking about the ancient mentalities of posters on a thread discussing the views of women by muslim men?

I just found it ironic thats all

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I must say the same thought did occur.
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Originally Posted by tony de wonderful
No you are trying to accuse me of having a racist - or similar - agenda, and when I refuse to step down to your level and make denials you dishonestly use that as 'proof' that what you said must be true.

It's demagoguery and anyone can see that.

It's a shame you seek to avoid debate and instead attack the person.
I think you would do better if you started writing in plain English instead of trying to impress us with unnecessary long words.

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Originally Posted by SetoN
Hi Mus,

Can you really start talking about the ancient mentalities of posters on a thread discussing the views of women by muslim men?

I just found it ironic thats all

SetoN
ancient mentality it's always blame the Muslims it's there fault, in the 50s blame the blacks

and as for Muslim women my sister works and has her degree and has a top notch job, my mrs who isn't Muslim is a hr manager also with a degree she has a good job I'm Muslim that prays five times a day I don't have a problem with her working. it's even better for me

I don't know where people get Muslim women can't work? it's personal preference. what's the point of having a degree and sitting then at home?? if a women has kids then it's different.

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I haven't fallen out with anyone, I just refuse to have anything to do with racist comments. The end of my tether has now been reached
I like Maz, Asif and Banny very much and I think they have a lot to offer this board. But, I do wonder how they must feel when they see threads constantly go up with really nasty, offensive racist remarks and digs at anything remotely Muslim/Pakistani.
I'll just have to show superior strength and not look anymore. All this tension is wearing me out
To be honest Lesley it's water off a duck's back. As I've said before my skin is quite thick as well as brown. I don't dislike Tony but I am intrigued as to why he posts so much anti muslim/Pakistani threads/posts. It may be quite simple as not liking the aforementioned communities. Perhaps by blanket posting negative things about anything muslim/Pakistani he hopes to sway opinion on here. This is quite a sinister ploy on his part and he is finding many receptive people on here. It's akin to saying something loud enough and long enough so that people accept it as the truth.
In my time on here I have got to know many wonderful people and been privileged to meet a few. Scoobynet has been and still is head and shoulders above other forums. I don't think the likes of TDW are going to change that.
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Hadn't spotted your avatar before DCI - I rather like it!
I did have the animated gif version
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I did have the animated gif version


We've briefly lightened a dark thread, but Maz makes a good point.



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