Did you not read this?

 

Yeah, I chose to ignore it. Like most of the stuff the newspapers print, I take with a pinch of salt.

 

And that backs my arguement up. Colour And race is not the issue, its islamic views and practices not engaging well in modern day britain

 

So you are saying The Times are lying?

Seems an odd stance to take in the absence of evidence pointing to that conclusion?

 

I understand your pov, but how do we explain the very similar treatment of women by our home grown whities?

I think to commit rape/groom young women, there possibly has to be 'something' in the person themselves to think that is ok, despite what the law says, but also from a right/wrong moral pov. I do think how a person is brought up will have a part to play, and again that applies to people of every race.

 

I still maintain, it is not just Asians, Muslims etc, we have our own offenders in abundance yet they do not seem to make the headlines. I wonder why that is

 

Asif, not that simple, don't think "Goodness Gracious Me" made anything "Hip", they were Indian anyways not a case of being cool, or right on, just a case of not putting barriers in the way if two people like/love/tolerate each other enough to get married, I want my lads to marry who they want to, not regret that they didnt because of cultural boundaries, I myself had a special mate called Nusrat at school who was Asian, we were really good mates but it was clear I would never go to her home, never have any romance due to her background even though we both liked each other, she had massive **** so obviously I was captivated ! Then the girl next door "Sinitta" was Indian and I thought there was something going on, we used to chat, flirt and she brought me curries, then i hear she was shipped off to get married, gutted I was ! I don't have a "thing" for Asian girls, I haven't got an Asian Babes subscription I just like who I like (obviously before I got married).

I think if Asian guys want to go with girls out of their culture then they need to treat them with respect, that is all, no problem with mixed race marriages in my opinion but anyone just taking what they want against their will, regardless of background, white, black, brown or whatever, needs a bullet in the temple.

I reckon Jack Straw is getting ready to retire and is speaking his mind.

 

But you are contradicted by The Times' evidence.

At least they have done some research, you otoh just claim to 'know'.

 

There called perverted @£&?!s. I agree, yes every race, colour etc etc do this sorta thing, i have never disagreed with that. Its just islam not in so many words does not exactly disagree with the behaviour, which may back up the times claims as to why so many of the convicted men since 1997 were in fact muslim.

 

Hey! I'm from Torquay and I've never been accused as a pest!!!

 

Sorry about that, just generalising

 

What a waste of good bandwidth!!!!

I caught the 10 O-Clock news last night, there were 'religious' figures or community leaders who spoke on behalf of the ethnic minorities singled out in the debacle. They had no problem admiting there was an increasing trend of islamic / pakistani / asian or whatever minority he represented, grooming young girls and disrespecting the moral rights of young white women. They were pointing out it was not morally acceptable against the context of their belief systems.

These blokes can publicly state their viewpoint on BBC news, yet Jack Straw makes a comment which aligns with their statement, yet because he is not from the accused minority, he is now portrayed as racist.

Nothing to see here - move on, give me back my bandwidth!!!

 

Oh for goodness sake.. just maybe that is because whites don't tend to form gangs.

I am talking about overall sexual assaults

 

It was the Telegraph not the Times and anyway while they may not be lying like I said they are focusing on gangs ... whites don't tend to form gangs so gues why more black gangs are involved in these assaults.

 

Easy meat, they aren't even Halal !

 

Guess what, I thought that!
But then I read again, and found:

"But in 17 court cases since 1997 where groups of men were prosecuted for grooming 11 to 16 year old girls on the street, 53 of the 56 people found guilty were Asian, 50 of them Muslim, while just three were white, The Times reported".

The Telegraph quoted The Times, by the read of it.

 

Jack straw always reminded me of the demon head master



When I was in Bradford a few years back with my ex I have to say she was on the end of some rather vulgar verbal abuse, I'd say it was more to do with the fact that certain parts of the Asian community there have adopted the British moronic mentality of hanging out on street corners drinking cheap lager and spouting abuse.

 

LOL

To me, he looks like an office administrator, who files away everyone's cwap, and orders office stationery via Lycos.

 

omg, I am going to dl that right now, classic

Aye, a complete nightmareish experience every time I have to go there.

 

Sorry, but that's rubbish.

Huntley, West, 'Crossbow Killer', and that bloke (dunno his name, and can't be arsed to Google it) who pretended to be a taxi driver and raped 50+ women.

 

Fine examples of scum, but not all cases get highlighted as much as if it is Muslims/Asians etc.
I do not think my comment was "rubbish" at all.
The newspapers relish anyone remotely foreign committing a crime of any sort and blazing it all over the front pages.
Believe me, there have been some henious crimes by good old white Brits that only manages to get on page 4 if at all.
A classic is hundreds of women, beaten by their husbands every day, to the point they leave to some B&B to escape it. Does that get front page news, no. It would if the husbands were Asian.
I'm sorry but I think this is blanket racism and to be honest, I am sick to the back teeth of it all

 

Some good points, well made.

 

The only time i notice any 'hype' about Muslim killings is the honour killings (excluding the Extremists of course). The press love that!!!

(sorry, 'rubbish' was a bit harsh, should have said i disagree)

 

I'd love to rubbish this Straw statement as I've never been a fan of the guy - always implementing on horse-stable-bolted policies when in seat and still getting it wrong.

However, with recent events near me I'm inclined to agree there maybe is a problem that needs addressing. We nearly had a riot by me on some occasions DID have a riot directly due to some asian kids (well, not kids, some are well into their 20's) sexually harrasing girls in the local park. Basically being sex pests.

Problem is, many girls were underage. Whilst some curious 14yr old girls probably tease and loved the attention, their parents/brothers did not approve. After sustained police inaction its come to a head and the parents decided to take up arms. It was only until then did the police arrive (complete with riot gear, paddy wagons and chopper).

This still flairs up every now and again in the summer, especially at weekends.

In this case the curlprit's families mainly orginate from Bangladesh. However that should be irrelvent as this bunch are all British born second generation. So what influenced them to think this attitude is "OK" is beyond me. Certainly a bunch of mob handed "whities" doesn't seem to deter them from trying to gets some underage nookie.

What does strike me as odd is I rarely see any asian girls in the park, and the ones I do are always accompanied by most of their family (mum, sister, grandma etc.) Why is that? Are they all locked up indoors and not allowed out without being chaperoned? Is it because their families know what "these men" in their own "community" tend to get up to?

Park life, eh?

 

I think the perception is wholly driven by the media. Typically it seems only young caucasian females get more coverage than other ethnic origins eg. Joanna Yates, Milly Dowler, Maddie McCann, Sarah Payne, Demi Wright, Dinah McNicol, Vicky Hamilton, etc and often are subject to massive nationwide media campaigns. If it doesn't sell or is not news worthy, it largely goes unreported.

 

No worries. It would be one boring world if we all agreed

 

 

Princey, please make your mind up. You make some baseless comments, claiming to be able to back them up, with quotations and so on, then say you can't be arsed to, you might be right, might be wrong and so on, then go off and make more baseless statements.

If you have a point of view, no matter how unpopular it might be, that's fair enough I say. However, you need to be able to either back it up or retract it.

I sense you are just trying to go with what you perceive to be the popular view on the thread. Doesn't work around here, people are smarter than that.

Asif

 

That ladies and gentleman is far and away the best post on this thread.

Those of you who seem to revel in perceiving Asians to be universally bad news would do well to take note of what is written there as it is so true.

The press and various people and groups with there own not so hidden agendas are manipulating vast numbers of people in this country and they can't even see it.... make of that what you will!

 

J4CKO, my view is that, for whatever reason, such integration is much easier these days. I should imagine that of my nephews and nieces, and my own daughter, quite a few will marry white people, I'll be surprised if they don't. That wouldn't have been the case as recently as a generation ago.

Can I ask where you were living when you met these asian ladies please? Just curious as I believe that asian communities in the UK are actually quite distinct from each other based upon where they are.

I agree with your other points, further however, that Jack Straw is a tw@t!