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Old 07 January 2011, 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by subaruturbo_18
Did you go for a MacBook pro? Im about to replace my mac mini with a MacBook as I'd like to be more mobile, just wondering if the extra £400 for the base MacBook pro would be worth it over just an 'ordinary' macbook.
I asked the sane question and the majority went with MacBook pro as you can have more ram, love my mbp
Old 07 January 2011, 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by JackClark
I think it should stay here, it concerns every user of Scoobynet. Whether you know it or not it will change the way you purchase software, that includes you Windows users as well.
In all fairness, this has been mooted for some time. Apple are the first to market, they didn't think it up. It's quite a different thing.

Originally Posted by JackClark
How is it not a revolution? Never before have desktop computer users been offered this service, no more virus infected, toolbar installing, unsupported, dodgy website uncertainty when it comes to using software on your computer.
People complain about MS and how they try to dictate to everyone, but Apple are ten times worse! The app store has had all sorts of apps removed because Apple don't think you are capable of making a decision on what is suitable.

And, as for Flash.......

Keeping malware/viruses/buggy software out = good
Censorship = bad.

Originally Posted by JackClark
As for the Browser being the place for Applications, you are so far off the mark you may as well be on a different planet. Look at what Apple has done to the Mobile market, have you not noticed the incredible revenue generated selling apps in the Marketplace, Android, iOS and WP7? All that good stuff is now heading to the desktop.
Android was around before iPhone and Apple App Store. The Android App store came out just under 2 months after Apple App store, are you really trying to say this is all down to Apple?

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Don't believe me, well time will tell, as you're probably aware I haven't been proved wrong yet and I'm not wrong now.
Correction: You have said you have been right, that is not the same as being right


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Old 07 January 2011, 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Geezer
.... Apple are the first to market, they didn't think it up. It's quite a different thing.
You could say Bodega was and also Fink and MacPorts for the free stuff.

What Apple are doing is not new anyway, anyone who has ever used Linux knows that, Ubuntu's apt-get for instance.
Old 07 January 2011, 02:49 PM
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I see that the Apple App store and purchases have been cracked already
Old 07 January 2011, 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by SwissTony
I see that the Apple App store and purchases have been cracked already
Yes, this is the thing that Nac/Apple fanboys used to crow over, how secure it all was.

Well, strangely enough, as some Apple products have become mainstream, they are worth hacking now, and guess what? They have been.

Secure my ****, niche is what protected them.

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Old 07 January 2011, 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Geezer
Yes, this is the thing that Nac/Apple fanboys used to crow over, how secure it all was.

Well, strangely enough, as some Apple products have become mainstream, they are worth hacking now, and guess what? They have been.

Secure my ****, niche is what protected them.

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Ah not quite. Steady on there laddy. It is not the store itself just the apps.

And remember Apple have never been exempt from hacking as proven several times over. It is the level of available exploits, virus, malware that you speak of and in those terms, they are way behind the curve.
Old 07 January 2011, 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Geezer
Secure my ****, niche is what protected them.

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Absolutely 100% correct!!
Old 07 January 2011, 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by JackClark
Times are good for me, I'm on the road for six months minimum a year and I like to buy the best available, £2000 bought me a stunning laptop that will no doubt last six years.
Well whatever it is you do you must need that extra processing power or whatever as £2000 is a crazy amount of money in my book.

Six years - you don't need to spend £200 to get something that will last 6 years. Have 3 Dell m520s in my company, bought new in 2003 - all still going strong and in use every day.

Not having a dig, just incredulous tbh
Old 07 January 2011, 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
Absolutely 100% correct!!
100% wrong and 100% wrongly quoted
Old 07 January 2011, 04:51 PM
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Correctly quoted I would say.
Old 07 January 2011, 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by SwissTony
100% wrong and 100% wrongly quoted
Why? What do YOU think makes Apple products immune to hackers and virus writers.

This is going to be good Detailed answer please.

Sits back and awaits either another ill informed fanboy answer or some humble pie being eaten
Old 07 January 2011, 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by JackClark
That's the past, welcome to the future. The managed desktop application.
the future is apple charging throught he nose for features that were previously free to desk top users, the desk top app store will bring nothing but iphone apps and charges for stuff google docs and open office will do for free!
Old 07 January 2011, 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by SwissTony
I see that the Apple App store and purchases have been cracked already
good, may the "community" continue to stick two fingers up to steve jobs extortionate business model.



Charging for ringtones, WTF.



No bluetooth cos it means we loose mp3 revenue, we dont want people having free access to music they have already paid for, we want to charge you twice!



Have to use itunes to get data to and from the phone is bollocks, itunes is badly coded for windows on purpose, why cant we just see it as a new drive letter?


jailbreak and you can do all of the above easily, windows will label my 32gb iphone 4 as a drive and i can drag and drop onto it, my bluetooth works properly and i can make my own ringtones without paying a quid for each one!


Iphone are nice products, apples business model is for ******* with more money than sense!
Old 07 January 2011, 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by STi wanna Subaru
err... why did you buy an iPhone then?
Must admit that thought crossed my mind
Old 07 January 2011, 06:00 PM
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To be fair, they are good phones when you Jailbreak them, but when you first buy them they are locked down pieces of s**t.
Old 07 January 2011, 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
Why? What do YOU think makes Apple products immune to hackers and virus writers.

This is going to be good Detailed answer please.

Sits back and awaits either another ill informed fanboy answer or some humble pie being eaten
When I get home I shall explain in easy to understand terms for you
Old 07 January 2011, 07:01 PM
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Loads of terrible arguments against Apple, misconception galore.

Your negativity just makes me feel rightfully smug. You crack on keeping your beloved Microsoft products running, I'll crack on using great products.
Old 07 January 2011, 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by JackClark
Loads of terrible arguments against Apple, misconception galore.

Your negativity just makes me feel rightfully smug. You crack on keeping your beloved Microsoft products running, I'll crack on using great products.
+1

I will never go back to using a PC
Old 07 January 2011, 07:45 PM
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I'm PC user,but i use MacOSX on my Hackintosh,great product for making music and that's it.If you are gamer,proper gamer not just COD etc.,PC is only one way.Or if you are working at Profi CAD/CAM studio you are need PC.
And about the Mac/App store,great idea,just wait what Microsoft make(new W8? with cloud computing?)



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Old 07 January 2011, 07:51 PM
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I hope Microsoft do great things Jura, and I'll applaud them. No hatred here. I make a living from Microsoft and Ubuntu and do so from my MacBook. Which runs Win 7 when it has to.
Old 07 January 2011, 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by JackClark
Loads of terrible arguments against Apple, misconception galore.

Your negativity just makes me feel rightfully smug. You crack on keeping your beloved Microsoft products running, I'll crack on using great products.
What do you think of Ubuntu's AppGet?

It is what Apple have just started doing, but AppGet is free, has more content and is better, but what do you think of it?
Old 07 January 2011, 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Dedrater
What do you think of Ubuntu's AppGet?

It is what Apple have just started doing, but AppGet is free, has more content and is better, but what do you think of it?
I'd never heard of it, but a quick search and read shows it's incomplete and as buggy as sin. Can you get Angry Birds? Do they take all major credit cards?
Old 07 January 2011, 09:28 PM
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Link me what you have read. imo it is all sorted and works fine, it has been non beta for two years, so you would think so.

Yes, but I have no idea why is it relevant, Rovio media are, for some reason, bringing Angry Birds to Linux.

Take credit cards? Linux dev ‘App store’ has been capable of supporting paid applications for months now.

You have to be more objective about technology Jack, I/you/anyone owe them nothing.
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I was looking at the wrong thing I think http://www.app-get.com/whatisappget/ got a link to the real one?
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Like the tactic, but wrong angle

Edit: It is much better integrated than Itunes

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Originally Posted by JackClark
I think it should stay here, it concerns every user of Scoobynet. Whether you know it or not it will change the way you purchase software, that includes you Windows users as well.

How is it not a revolution? Never before have desktop computer users been offered this service, no more virus infected, toolbar installing, unsupported, dodgy website uncertainty when it comes to using software on your computer.

As for the Browser being the place for Applications, you are so far off the mark you may as well be on a different planet. Look at what Apple has done to the Mobile market, have you not noticed the incredible revenue generated selling apps in the Marketplace, Android, iOS and WP7? All that good stuff is now heading to the desktop.

Don't believe me, well time will tell, as you're probably aware I haven't been proved wrong yet and I'm not wrong now.
Ubuntu has had it's own app store for ages
Old 07 January 2011, 10:01 PM
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I must admit, when i first read this i thought "is this not just the android market for a desktop?"

Then i thought "hold on a min, doesn't my Ubuntu running laptop have some kind of app store on it?"
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Originally Posted by SwissTony
When I get home I shall explain in easy to understand terms for you
I look forward to it very much.
Old 07 January 2011, 10:31 PM
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Love the way the primary mark of a good software shop now is whether you can get Angry F**king Birds... give me strength FFS!!!
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
I look forward to it very much.


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