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Old Jan 6, 2011 | 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by gussy
You can enable the clocks to sweep.Ian Litchfield I belive has done it on a few cars but it costs My hawkeye spec-c RA btw does not sweep either.
Agreed... as said previously this can be programmed in to the clocks as I have seen it done with my own mince pies.
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Old Jan 6, 2011 | 06:00 PM
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I thought the Spec C dials don't sweep (mine certainly didn't & it was MY05 Shaun!)? Weight saving measure

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Old Jan 6, 2011 | 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Suberman
Coming back to the gauges, the Spec C does have this function. See here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MefNAX2gGyo
Might not be a Spec C

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Old Jan 6, 2011 | 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by LUCKO
mines a 52 reg sti8 twin scroll it has always sweeped but now the middle one is none responsive.....faulty speedo converter?
I have an MY01 STI JDM, Do your clocks light up green or Red? i know the later blob JDM's had the red ones thats did the sweep but was unsure on the early ones.

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Old Jan 6, 2011 | 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Cannon Fodder
As a side note I was in a MY03 JDM STi on Sunday night and that had the sweep function, outside temp display and a few other things that my MY04 Spec C doesn't have.

I mean taking the weight saving down to the slight weight difference of a slightly heavier display, an extra bit of loom and a temp sensor does seem a little bit too much like OCD.
JDM STis have it, Spec Cs don't ...

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Old Jan 6, 2011 | 06:11 PM
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So far, on my count we have 9 Spec Cs (7 hawk 2 blob) including myself that do not have the sweep function. I think we can all come to the conclusion that the Spec Cs do not have the sweep function from the factory.

I noticed that the owner of the Spec C in the youtube link may have bought the car from Litchfield (his other post showing type20 upgrades). As to why his has the sweep, it is highly possible that Litchfield set it in as they are able to do this albeit at a cost as Gussy has said.

So, i must be dreaming that mine was once sweeping.....
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Old Jan 6, 2011 | 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by mike80
My hawkeye spec c does not do the sweep either, the youtube link may not be a spec c
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Might not be a Spec C

TX.
I believe it is fellas. See his other posts: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5En_...eature=related

I think his might have been "enabled" by Litchfield as i think that's a Litchfield supplied car as it has the type20 kit fitted. Of course i'm speculating.
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Old Jan 6, 2011 | 06:26 PM
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^^ Why would Subaru turn it off on a Spec C when it is enabled on a JDM STi ... seems a tad silly to me!

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MY06 Spec C T20 owner here (not sure if same as the UTube poster although seems probable):

https://www.scoobynet.com/811444-haw...ml#post9804090

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Old Jan 6, 2011 | 06:36 PM
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Mine Sweeps. MY05 JDM STi
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Old Jan 6, 2011 | 06:38 PM
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^^ Yours is "only" a STi John

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Old Jan 6, 2011 | 06:41 PM
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I like these "only" cars, they have more in them than the "special" ones.
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Old Jan 6, 2011 | 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by johnfelstead
I like these "only" cars, they have more in them than the "special" ones.
Valid Point


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Old Jan 6, 2011 | 08:31 PM
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From what I gather a "standard" MY06 Spec C onwards, does NOT sweep from new.
I have spoken to Iain Litchfield about this in the past, as I thought it was a quick software hack in Ecutek etc to enable it, but that wasn't the case.

The clocks/dashboard part have to come out and I believe a part is added. On Iain's original T25 website, in the available extras there was a "Spec C Dashboard dials sweep" for about £90. Link here http://www.type-25.com/pdf/MY07_Type25_options.pdf

The youtube link belongs to CallumW and was for certain a Spec C, as I remember commenting on the sweep action when I saw him at Silverstone a while back.

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Old Jan 6, 2011 | 10:20 PM
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I will say it one more time .... the clocks can be re-programmed to sweep. You don't add any parts. Taking the clocks out and the equipment to re-programme them is what costs the cash... hence the cost associated to it.

Why it is was turned off for Spec C's god only knows.
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Old Jan 8, 2011 | 10:25 AM
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The clocks on my hawkeye spec c DO sweep.


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Old Jan 8, 2011 | 10:58 AM
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Mines a hawkeye 56 plate spec c red dials type 25 an mine sweeps every time.
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Old Jan 8, 2011 | 12:11 PM
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The hawkeye Spec C's are just JDM STi's in drag

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Old Jan 8, 2011 | 12:39 PM
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i have a 03 spec c and the clusters sweep hope this helps.
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Old Jan 8, 2011 | 02:11 PM
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As far as I am aware, all JDM cars from blobeye (03) onwards should have sweeping gauges, so I can't understand why the Spec C woudn'd have this, as they have the same stepper motor gauges.

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Old Jan 9, 2011 | 09:41 AM
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Ok fellas, the verdict is out. Spec Cs do not come with the sweep function from the factory, only the JDM STIs do. I managed to get the information on the 'sequential startup function' from the JDM owners' manual translated.



Heres what it says:

Initializing the Indicating needle
For red luminescent and white luminescent, upon turning the engine switch to "On", all 4 meter indicating needles will indicate the maximum and then immediately return. (excluding STI spec C)

Setting Method
STI indicating needle can be set or deactivated using the method below.
1. When the engine switch is at "ON", and REV Indicator Setting **** is turned either to the right or left, setting or deactivating can be done by pushing the Trip Switch/Trip Meter Reset ****.
When this is done, the buzzer will sound and the external temperature display will change to the initial start-up display. The initial start-up mark and "ON", or "--" will be displayed.

Although the above information is taken from the owners' manual for the MY06-07 hawkeye JDM GDB STI. I believe the sweep function was not included in the earlier Spec Cs as well (MY03-05) as confirmed by CannonFodder and TX.

So i guess the Spec Cs that have the sweep function were programmed in from new by the supplier (as confirmed possible by Robocop and Shaun) or was done by a previous owner.
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Old Jan 9, 2011 | 08:01 PM
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Well done for researching this mate.

Seems that it will need to be programmed.

Now all thats left is to find out how to program them!
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Old Jan 9, 2011 | 08:21 PM
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If it can be programmed then is this possible by the likes of Bob Rawle, JGM etc as if not then it would probably mean a trip to your local dealer.

It is probably just a sofware patch that needs to be applied.
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Old Jan 9, 2011 | 08:30 PM
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There was mention of the cluster having to be removed to program the cluster.

Not sure if this is correct as I have never seen an interface on the cluster.

It seems that Litchfield charge around the £90 to have it done, which is steep if the cluster does not have to come out! If it does then I would say thats a fair price.
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Old Jan 9, 2011 | 08:32 PM
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I doubt they will have the ability to program these clocks.... you need a special bit of hardware that has nothing to do with ECU programming. The clocks need to be removed and the hardware plugged in to the back of the clocks iirc. Litchfield's should be able to sort it out for you.
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Old Jan 9, 2011 | 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by DoZZa
There was mention of the cluster having to be removed to program the cluster.

Not sure if this is correct as I have never seen an interface on the cluster.

It seems that Litchfield charge around the £90 to have it done, which is steep if the cluster does not have to come out! If it does then I would say thats a fair price.
I have seen it done myself at Litchfield's. There is no interface on the clocks that you would think is an interface, but iirc there are a row of contacts on the circuit board that the handheld device (connection loom) makes contact with. The clocks need to be removed to do this as the contacts are on the board itself.
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Old Jan 9, 2011 | 08:36 PM
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No one has yet confirmed why no sweep on the factory Spec C's though

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Old Jan 10, 2011 | 03:06 PM
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Old Jan 10, 2011 | 06:27 PM
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I thought all jdms had the sweep? my 03 spec c ltd has the sweep.
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Old Sep 28, 2011 | 10:36 PM
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I spoke to Litchfileds about doing this but as it will zero the milage they are not willing to do it.

Has anyone else had this done by anyone else.
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