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Andy Forest TD05 20g,
prodrive 3 port boost solind
800cc injectors
parellel fuel rails
fuel lab pressure reg
manifold with equal lenth set up with up pipe
nkg pfr7b spark plugs
3" turbo back exhaust system
front mount intercooler
cold air feed induction kit
cosworth belts and pulleys
i think thats it
prodrive 3 port boost solind
800cc injectors
parellel fuel rails
fuel lab pressure reg
manifold with equal lenth set up with up pipe
nkg pfr7b spark plugs
3" turbo back exhaust system
front mount intercooler
cold air feed induction kit
cosworth belts and pulleys
i think thats it
A lot of money spent needlessly here.
Is it a new turbo or refurbished and what was the intended power output?
What equal length manifold and what uppipe?
What front mount?
How big is the filter on your CAK?
If Simon has mapped this car already I am sure he will have a good idea as to why it is down on power. Rather than slag him before he responds would it not be a better idea to get his input and take it from there. By all means change your mapper but you are hardly giving Simon an opportunity to give you valuable input.
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The car wouldnt hold boost on the rollers and tailed to 1.2bar regardless of settings, the engine is consuming all air it is given and making good power for that boost.
On the road it is a different story and holds boost to redline and flies and I wouod estimate actually about 380bhp.
The induction kit cannot stay like it is so will need checking and tweaking once that is sorted and maybe worth considering an uprated actuator if you are just after dyno figures. Imho it is how the car drives that counts not all about the figures whic in this case dont show the true output.
Many thanks for being mature about it.
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Also the torque is not necessarily lower as your previous dyno figures are from a different dyno that notoriously reads higher.
You need to compare apples with apples.
Tbh I am shocked by your posts and think you should take sometime to think about it.
Simon
You need to compare apples with apples.
Tbh I am shocked by your posts and think you should take sometime to think about it.
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The car is not finished, you were lucky to get it done full stop as the induction kit supplied was wrong which was not your fault either mind but the supplier.
I mapped what I was given and passed on my advice to improve on it when it is tweaked when induction kit is replaced.
Simon
I mapped what I was given and passed on my advice to improve on it when it is tweaked when induction kit is replaced.
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I am not sure what this means and I didn't know you were coming to Darlington but if you want to come just let me know and I will send you directions.
Are you the same guy that bought a flange adaptor and silicon joiner that you then said didn't fit? If so bring it with you for a refund.
I would like you to explain what you mean above.
Are you the same guy that bought a flange adaptor and silicon joiner that you then said didn't fit? If so bring it with you for a refund.
I would like you to explain what you mean above.
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It's the obvious question really given that we all use him, and can vouch for the work, and even moreso if him and Alan have done some of the work
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put right what simon has advised as he wouldnt hesitate in having another look,his after sales is second to none and would not let a car leave him that was down on "graph power" unless it was something that was totally out of his hands/software,ie faulty parts or bad workmanship.
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Ok sent Simon an apology on a pm few days back, ok it's not his fault and he has done almost all he can with what he has, but I haven't had much feed back or Lil information about the car. Thanks again Simon
Guys I no I no should of just used Fb tuning. But that's live and he has given me lots of support already. Thanks again Richard
Guys I no I no should of just used Fb tuning. But that's live and he has given me lots of support already. Thanks again Richard
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Nothing wrong with fuel pump
The reason it only made 350bhp on the rr is because the boost tails off because the actuator is not strong enough, the next problem is the induction kit cannot stay as is and once the actuator is fixed it will cause the maf to max out.
This kind of story will end with the OP fixing the issues outlined and taking the car elsewhere to be finished off and then give them all the credit, despite all the hard work and advice I have given.
Cant win sometimes
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The reason it only made 350bhp on the rr is because the boost tails off because the actuator is not strong enough, the next problem is the induction kit cannot stay as is and once the actuator is fixed it will cause the maf to max out.
This kind of story will end with the OP fixing the issues outlined and taking the car elsewhere to be finished off and then give them all the credit, despite all the hard work and advice I have given.
Cant win sometimes
Simon
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which is why I asked why all the work was not done by one person
if the mechanic does the mapping then its his nuts on the line
I reserve the right to change my opinion
when FB gets my car back to me
if the mechanic does the mapping then its his nuts on the line
I reserve the right to change my opinion
when FB gets my car back to me
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Simon dosnt work on my car apart from mapping, TFS Racing does, but the RA still made 411bhp on a H on v-power and 453bhp on a T, did the quarter in 11.6 at 125mph.. i had problems along the way, but never once blamed anyone and just went back to who did the work and we solved the problem
I had a running problem just before a SDS round, totally nothing to do with Simon, but he came around even tho he was busy and he solved the problem without charging...
So to blame him when you dont get the figures your after is just wrong in my eyes
I had a running problem just before a SDS round, totally nothing to do with Simon, but he came around even tho he was busy and he solved the problem without charging...
So to blame him when you dont get the figures your after is just wrong in my eyes
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Have to say ...if a mapper tell's you there is a problem with parts on your car which is restricting power outputs then you listen to him .....
I have used many subaru Engine mappers in the past and not one has been wrong with there diagnostis ..
especially Simon
I do sympathise with your problems chap but coming on here and coming accross how you have ...
Btw the 20g you bought ...could be a cheap imatation which are renown for failure .
as i said i feel for you but you really are doing yourself no favours by coming on slaggin people off in my opinion especially when mappers especially simon etc are responsiable for a lot of high powered 20g cars with the same mods
I have used many subaru Engine mappers in the past and not one has been wrong with there diagnostis ..
especially Simon
I do sympathise with your problems chap but coming on here and coming accross how you have ...
Btw the 20g you bought ...could be a cheap imatation which are renown for failure .
as i said i feel for you but you really are doing yourself no favours by coming on slaggin people off in my opinion especially when mappers especially simon etc are responsiable for a lot of high powered 20g cars with the same mods
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i can imagine every mapper each week on a regular basis get cars taken to them with faulty parts/leaking pipes/ill fitted parts with the owners still expecting great results .
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dont fb only map with open source???, maybe the ecu already has the ecutek licence so why would you want to go backwards?
i can imagine every mapper each week on a regular basis get cars taken to them with faulty parts/leaking pipes/ill fitted parts with the owners still expecting great results .
i can imagine every mapper each week on a regular basis get cars taken to them with faulty parts/leaking pipes/ill fitted parts with the owners still expecting great results .
But without trying you never know,which is good or bad.
I have similar problem,but this has been related to O2 sensor,with bad/knackered O2 senor(fail safe map) i make 265BHP,with replacement O2 sensor i make 275BHP,and again Open Source Map.
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(without opening a new can off worms on this one) not knocking os mapping each to there own but if it was that great would all the top mappers use it,andy/jgm/bob/zen to name a few.
i know os has come along way over the years but for me ecutek is my preferred choice everytime, no disrespect to fb or duncan as i know they get good results but any cowboy can download os to the lap top and start mapping in which there is plenty of it going on, as with ecutek there is a select few from ecutek with proper investment in keeping the software upto date.
i know os has come along way over the years but for me ecutek is my preferred choice everytime, no disrespect to fb or duncan as i know they get good results but any cowboy can download os to the lap top and start mapping in which there is plenty of it going on, as with ecutek there is a select few from ecutek with proper investment in keeping the software upto date.
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This thread is just one big WTF
Slaging off One of the best mappers (Simon)is wrong from op, BUT. When someone intervens and calls FB and Duncan cowboys because of using an open source map???? Get your facts on the table 1st or u just fkn jealous that u can't do what they can do??? How the hell do u know how and what they do when mapping??? Anyway, i hope everything gets sorted out , jumping from one technician 2 another one trying 2 save few quid has never been right thing IMO.
Slaging off One of the best mappers (Simon)is wrong from op, BUT. When someone intervens and calls FB and Duncan cowboys because of using an open source map???? Get your facts on the table 1st or u just fkn jealous that u can't do what they can do??? How the hell do u know how and what they do when mapping??? Anyway, i hope everything gets sorted out , jumping from one technician 2 another one trying 2 save few quid has never been right thing IMO.
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This thread is just one big WTF
Slaging off One of the best mappers (Simon)is wrong from op, BUT. When someone intervens and calls FB and Duncan cowboys because of using an open source map???? Get your facts on the table 1st or u just fkn jealous that u can't do what they can do??? How the hell do u know how and what they do when mapping??? Anyway, i hope everything gets sorted out , jumping from one technician 2 another one trying 2 save few quid has never been right thing IMO.
Slaging off One of the best mappers (Simon)is wrong from op, BUT. When someone intervens and calls FB and Duncan cowboys because of using an open source map???? Get your facts on the table 1st or u just fkn jealous that u can't do what they can do??? How the hell do u know how and what they do when mapping??? Anyway, i hope everything gets sorted out , jumping from one technician 2 another one trying 2 save few quid has never been right thing IMO.
read the post properly please.
"no disrespect to fb and duncan as i know they get great results"
"anybody can download os and call them self a mapper" point meaning ecutek have a selected few mappers where ANY home user can get os
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