if i need anywork doing or maping then rich at fb tuning is the man for the job

 

^^^ 2nd that mate.....oh well what is done is done. Try not to loose any sleep over it.... she'll get sorted with some FB help

 

Mate gutted for u hope u get it sorted soon !!!

 

Why 800cc injectors, parallel fuel rail and pressure regulator?
A lot of money spent needlessly here.
Is it a new turbo or refurbished and what was the intended power output?
What equal length manifold and what uppipe?
What front mount?
How big is the filter on your CAK?

If Simon has mapped this car already I am sure he will have a good idea as to why it is down on power. Rather than slag him before he responds would it not be a better idea to get his input and take it from there. By all means change your mapper but you are hardly giving Simon an opportunity to give you valuable input.

 

I have had no email from you.

The car wouldnt hold boost on the rollers and tailed to 1.2bar regardless of settings, the engine is consuming all air it is given and making good power for that boost.

On the road it is a different story and holds boost to redline and flies and I wouod estimate actually about 380bhp.
The induction kit cannot stay like it is so will need checking and tweaking once that is sorted and maybe worth considering an uprated actuator if you are just after dyno figures. Imho it is how the car drives that counts not all about the figures whic in this case dont show the true output.

Many thanks for being mature about it.

Simon

 

Also the torque is not necessarily lower as your previous dyno figures are from a different dyno that notoriously reads higher.

You need to compare apples with apples.

Tbh I am shocked by your posts and think you should take sometime to think about it.
Simon

 

pm sent and they are the same dyno, so apples to apples no point in that as they are the same. pms where sent

 

and Harvey i will get to u soon when i come to Darlington!

 

The car is not finished, you were lucky to get it done full stop as the induction kit supplied was wrong which was not your fault either mind but the supplier.

I mapped what I was given and passed on my advice to improve on it when it is tweaked when induction kit is replaced.

Simon

 

I am not sure what this means and I didn't know you were coming to Darlington but if you want to come just let me know and I will send you directions.
Are you the same guy that bought a flange adaptor and silicon joiner that you then said didn't fit? If so bring it with you for a refund.
I would like you to explain what you mean above.

 

read this through now and have to wonder
why did you not let FB do all the work?

 

May be it was because he was tied with some old wreck

It's the obvious question really given that we all use him, and can vouch for the work, and even moreso if him and Alan have done some of the work

 

put right what simon has advised as he wouldnt hesitate in having another look,his after sales is second to none and would not let a car leave him that was down on "graph power" unless it was something that was totally out of his hands/software,ie faulty parts or bad workmanship.

 

Took the words right out of my mouth!!

Russ!

 

350bhp from TD05-20g is really low bhp from 20g(i have fitted VF34 and this make 350bhp all the day).
Which induction kit you are using?





Jura

 

which is why I adviced what was needed to improve but OP seems to have either not been told or not taken it on board.

Simon

 

Ok sent Simon an apology on a pm few days back, ok it's not his fault and he has done almost all he can with what he has, but I haven't had much feed back or Lil information about the car. Thanks again Simon
Guys I no I no should of just used Fb tuning. But that's live and he has given me lots of support already. Thanks again Richard

 

Is the fuel pump up to the job?

 

Nothing wrong with fuel pump

The reason it only made 350bhp on the rr is because the boost tails off because the actuator is not strong enough, the next problem is the induction kit cannot stay as is and once the actuator is fixed it will cause the maf to max out.

This kind of story will end with the OP fixing the issues outlined and taking the car elsewhere to be finished off and then give them all the credit, despite all the hard work and advice I have given.

Cant win sometimes

Simon

 

Shocked at how Simon has told you about problems with the car and you slag him off for low bhp... a mapper is only as good as the car supplied to him

 

which is why I asked why all the work was not done by one person
if the mechanic does the mapping then its his nuts on the line

I reserve the right to change my opinion
when FB gets my car back to me

 

 

Simon dosnt work on my car apart from mapping, TFS Racing does, but the RA still made 411bhp on a H on v-power and 453bhp on a T, did the quarter in 11.6 at 125mph.. i had problems along the way, but never once blamed anyone and just went back to who did the work and we solved the problem

I had a running problem just before a SDS round, totally nothing to do with Simon, but he came around even tho he was busy and he solved the problem without charging...

So to blame him when you dont get the figures your after is just wrong in my eyes

 

Have to say ...if a mapper tell's you there is a problem with parts on your car which is restricting power outputs then you listen to him .....

I have used many subaru Engine mappers in the past and not one has been wrong with there diagnostis ..
especially Simon


I do sympathise with your problems chap but coming on here and coming accross how you have ...



Btw the 20g you bought ...could be a cheap imatation which are renown for failure .


as i said i feel for you but you really are doing yourself no favours by coming on slaggin people off in my opinion especially when mappers especially simon etc are responsiable for a lot of high powered 20g cars with the same mods

 

dont fb only map with open source???, maybe the ecu already has the ecutek licence so why would you want to go backwards?

i can imagine every mapper each week on a regular basis get cars taken to them with faulty parts/leaking pipes/ill fitted parts with the owners still expecting great results .

 

Hi matey if you are make same power with Open Source,why bother with EcuTek or so?
But without trying you never know,which is good or bad.

I have similar problem,but this has been related to O2 sensor,with bad/knackered O2 senor(fail safe map) i make 265BHP,with replacement O2 sensor i make 275BHP,and again Open Source Map.



Jura

 

(without opening a new can off worms on this one) not knocking os mapping each to there own but if it was that great would all the top mappers use it,andy/jgm/bob/zen to name a few.

i know os has come along way over the years but for me ecutek is my preferred choice everytime, no disrespect to fb or duncan as i know they get good results but any cowboy can download os to the lap top and start mapping in which there is plenty of it going on, as with ecutek there is a select few from ecutek with proper investment in keeping the software upto date.

 

Good point,matey
Depends on personal preference and at this time most on money.
My car is mapped OS by Neil@Slowboy Racing and i'm happy with this.


Jura

 

This thread is just one big WTF

Slaging off One of the best mappers (Simon)is wrong from op, BUT. When someone intervens and calls FB and Duncan cowboys because of using an open source map???? Get your facts on the table 1st or u just fkn jealous that u can't do what they can do??? How the hell do u know how and what they do when mapping??? Anyway, i hope everything gets sorted out , jumping from one technician 2 another one trying 2 save few quid has never been right thing IMO.

 

and my original post was if you already have the licence why go backwards no amount of software will make wrong parts fitted right will they?


read the post properly please.
"no disrespect to fb and duncan as i know they get great results"
"anybody can download os and call them self a mapper" point meaning ecutek have a selected few mappers where ANY home user can get os