I need to get a shot of the other halfs RAV with standard lights, on here ...far far worse scatter than that.

What is it with Japanese cars & poor head lights? ...do they have street lighting everywhere in Japan?

 

Standard facelift headlights.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...=STRK:MEWAX:IT

 

I have just had a look at my mates 07 Clio 197 which has factory fitted xenons and they dont kick up to the left.

As for the main beam being the same a dip but higher that is correct, but then again the 197 is the same his lift but not as much as mine and he has 2 other bulbs which come on with full beam and to be honest on there own there dogger.

 

finally took some pics.
dipped beam

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main beam



the main beams could maybe require aligning to a more cental position for the purists but i find them more than adequate when driving on country lanes

 

they are poo i had some for past 6 months and as i pickt my car up getting a dccd controler fitted they told me my car woz on fire the black box just set on fire nearly lost 15g

 

What lights are those again?

No kick up to the left, either, again.

 

I'll translate...

Those lights are not very good, I have had some fitted for the last 6 months. I am getting DCCD fitted and the garage told me the little black box had caught fire. I nearly lost fifteen thousand pounds...

 

 

Did you read my comment above? Factory fitted with projectors that don't kick up.

 

Hello burbling, yes I read your comment, but his AREN'T factory fitted, they are from the states.

All the cars I've ever driven here with factrory fit HIDs have the kick up to the left.
Maybe it's being done away with to allow cheap left/right usage?

But if so, why do the sites in the USA, selling these things, ask if you want right-, or left-hand drive? If there's no difference?

 

what sites m8???

sedge

 

http://www.google.co.uk/#sclient=psy...7438fb088773d1

The one I've enquired at, Retrofit-Source, pretty good by all accounts, has/had a section about L/R dip.

IF the dip cutoff is flat, as above, why would they ask?

Bro in law has projector dips on his Jag, cutoff is PIN sharp and kicks up to the left.

 

yeah see what you mean, i had the kit on my01 bugeye but took them off and got uprated bulbs instead, the bulbs are just as good as the hid's and the high beam is 10 times better

sedge

 

It's what most people say, but those who do mostly DIP beam driving seem satisfied.......

 

Alcazar - did you ever receive the fitting instructions from that ebay seller?

I'm thinking the only way to do this properly is to buy one of the complete projector kits from the retrofitsource.

 

Nothing. They promised a set, I sent them an address, no response.

I'd NOT deal with them, given their customer care so far.
And yes, Retrofit from the states looks the way forward.

 

I've just converted to late facelift headlights fitted with Osram nightbreakers. More than enough light output from these and they are certainly not candles in jars (like my old early facelift lights were )

 

Cheers.

I agree. I've sent a query over to the U.S. to ask some questions in relation to the most appropriate projector kit for GC8 lamps and so on.

 

Your probably right everything that's built nowadays revolves around price with a small thought of quality.

If manufacturers are selling these then I presume its not a legal requirement to have a kickup.

 

Guys what side lights could you recommend to match 6k hids ?? multi led tower type ?? looking for pure white light as opposed to the blue that you often get with led type sidelights.

any ebay links ??

 

these were not a cheap kit, they are salvaged parts taken from real cars. the projectors are manufactured by valeo, these came from a rhd cadillac.

 

You bunch of tarts just eat more carrots

 

^^^

 

Did you get them from the USA? If not, where? You can PM me if you don't want to say.

 

I have gone back to my old H4 bulbs already. Changed them back over a week ago. HID is deffo not for me. Scratched that itch! Sold them already.

They were much brighter to look at, yes. But I wanted them to put more light on the road which the HID's did not do.

So now I can speak with knowledge.

If you want to make your lights look brighter to everyone else then buy some H4 HID's, they do this very well indeed.

If you want more light on the road for your own use then buy some decent H4 focussd bulbs. The 55w Halfords set I have currently are pretty good.

I have just bought some Ring Rally 100w H4's, I wonder what these will be like

 

Iffy. I guess not. Its certainly legal on a temporary basis at the very least. MOT beam pattens give a line where the "break point" for the kick-up should start, and an angle at which it must be at. but it does not define how high or low the kick-up has to be to the far left of break point (as the far left will not be seen on a beam tester). I assume the kick-up can go as high as you like so long as its at the correct angle.

We have a LHD Seat Altea with beam adpater stickers. Basically all this does is block the kick-up, so the dipped beams is a single level across the full witdth. Its pretty pants without the kickup, so I often resort to using the front foglamps to get better pavement/curb illumination on quiet unlit roads (when nobody is infront to annoy).

Many projectors just have a "step" as a kick up, so the beam kicks up to the left, but only up to a fixed point. As opposed to Fresnel lens headlamps fitted to classic Imprezas which often have a kick-up going to infinity (i.e the further left, the higher the beam). Its partially this reason why HIDs fitted in fresnel lens headlamps will dazzle traffic more on tight bends.

Some projectors actually have built in plates to block the kickup which are operated by a lever found behind a dust-proof cap. Operating this lever removes the kick up, so the car can be driven in other countries without dazzling oncomming traffic (and those infront via the rear view mirrors).

Notably BMW with projectors have this, but other cars with projector headlamps could also have this feature (our BMWs have them, My VW does not). Could your Clio infact have one of these levers thats been positioned in the wrong place? Eitherway a headlamp without good kick-up is rather poor in my opinion.

I've got some pics of various OEM beams against the the garage door to give a good reference of how it "should" be. But unfortunatly its camera phone as I've lost my camera. I can also get pics of a BMW with the kick up blocking levers operated (H7 halogen projector though) if anyone wants to see what I'm quacking on about.

 

I know what you mean. when I take the Xantia to France, it has old fashioned lights with the lenses doing the focusing, so I have part of the lenses taped to eliminate the kickup.

I then end up using it's foglights, (or fogLIGHT, since the bulb has gone on one and it's a bumper-off job to replace it ), to illuminate the edges of country roads.

 

Guys, just fitted a set off hid lights to a toyota corolla, everything fine apart from the fact that when lights are switched on they are causing a very weak / no radio signal. looked on google and it would appear its not unheard off, have heard that using a relay harness can cure the problem, anyone in the know confirm if this harness could infact prevent the interfierence from the cars electrical system causing probs with radio reception ??

these relay harness easy enough to fit ?? one harness do both lights ??

 

Give Aztec Performance a PM. He'll sell you something..

 

LOL, Yes a relay is easy to fit, but may not help, it depends on what sort of electronic control the kit has.

Basically, you want an on/off relay, and put it in between battery and the ballast.

85 from headlight main beam, 86 to earth.
30 FROM battery +ve, 87 to ballast/s