i have had retro fit HID's in for years and they have never failed an MOT

 

Thanks for sharing that with us Mark.

So where did the other 6% go Jeff?

I have not seen any E marked aftermarket HID sets and the fact that cars do pass MOTs with aftermarket HIDs fitted doesn't mean to say they will continue to do so in the future. As far as I am concerned if the light from single filament HIDs is better than standard I am prepared to take the risk but I already know from careful testing that is not the case on H4 full beam and anyone that is particularly interested can carry out the same testing and draw their own conclusions

 

Shouldn't this be in 'lighting & electrical'?

Jeff's post (#42) is spot on imo (& I have an H4 HID kit) ...H4 light's (& that includes halogen!) are basically a bit pant's.

What i will say is that my HID kit, when dipped was a massive improvement on the standard light's, I've been through 4 MOT's with them (I know they're being checked as they re-aligned one of them at the last MOT) & hand on heart I've never been flashed or pulled.

But there are caveat's ...they are not 'plug & play' ...you WILL need to get the beam alignment checked (preferably at an MOT station with the appropriate kit) & the main beam is indeed as useless as the original halogen H4's & as such i would highly recommend fitting/converting your f/fogs to driving lamps (which work far better with a HID kit too)

I can't predict whether the DfT/ Vosa are likely to clamp down on HID's ...but they were lobbied in 2003 iirc by the AA/RAC

 

Errrrrrrrrrrr, sound? Do they not buzz a bit?

 

 

just fitted a H4 Bi - Xenon kit (Hi+Lo) brilliant kit and have the crystal headlights too

 

You must be easily satisfied, or maybe not do much out of town work?

 

Where are the pic's Mark and what manufacurer (not seller) is it?

 

IMO any of the mini projectors will require splitting the headlight. they fit from the front into the back of the HL or reflector assembly and are held there by a locking ring. That's the easy to fit option. If it all goes according to plan you get well aligned projectors and retain the OEM methods of adjusting the HL aim.

Read somewhere about dipped vs high beam. Probably on HIDPlanet. Feeling was that well made projectors are best for low beam. For high beam, the feeling was to have the largest reflector available. It was mooted that a HID projector's reflector is "small" compared to an open reflector system.

The above assumes using HID bulbs in purpose designed HID reflector housings.

J.

 

live in the middle of no-where although it says Peterborough, its a small village outside of P,borough so lighting up the country lanes the HID's come in to there own

Pics on route

 

I wish I could show you my setup, Mark. Then yopu could see some proper night into day.

Here you go: https://www.scoobynet.com/technical-...-lamp-kit.html

Post number 26.

 

Not received a response from the seller yet, I asked for a copy of the instructions, they were out of office until 04/01, so I re-sent it today.

 

That looks like an excellent light setup but I couldnt bring myself to spend £400+ on them.

 

they are mint mine look like side lights compared to that,

 

Harvey.
As you have done lots of tests on different bulbs and HID kits could you post the pictures up from them?

 

the manufacturer is Helligkeit got them for £42.99 inc delivery

 

I did not take photos. That was not the objective and I doubt the photos I would take in the dark would mean very much.

 

For comparison purposes of "in the dark" photos, as Harvey says, you have to be very careful NOT to let your camera adjust itself for the extra light. Other wise you end up with three very similar shots

When I took my three, I used a Nikon D70, and fist set it on auto, and let it tell me what settings to use.
I then put it into full manual, and locked those settings in, also ensuring the built in flash was off, so that each photo used the same shutter speed and the same F-stop. Shutter speed was 2 seconds, which is WAY too long to accurately hand-hold, so the camera was gripped on top of the window glass, door open.

 

They are dodgy with the law... The problem for me is that people but in poor quality ones with a very scattered beam. Get a good kit and they should be fine.

The blue tint ones stand out a mile too and personally look 'cheap' - stick with 4300k (OEM) or similar and you will get better light and it will look nice too.

Personally I went with upgraded bulbs - Osram Nightbreakers (+90%), and they have proved to be very good.

 

Ive got the H4 Bi-Beam kit with 4300k bulbs and is a vast improvement on the standard candles in jars Had 2 mot's with them aswell with no problem

 

OK, I've tried to contact these lot FOUR times now by e-mail and by phone.

Only one e-mail was replied to and that gave me an "out of office until 04/01" message. The phone call got a "no-one to take your call and you cannot leave a message" response.

TBH, if this is their customer service, I think I'd leave their kits alone.

I shall report further, should I ever get a response.

 

Name of manufacturer and a pic to show them off.....

 

This projectors the exact same as others on ebay, except the ones I have seen are half the price. Just search for 'projectors'.

I am sure that people/companies are buying in bulk from China and doubling the price.

Someone is missing from this thread.

 

Yes, conspicuous by their absence...........

I'm really unsure about the cheap Chinese projectors, I've been warned off them before by one who knows, but tbh, HOW do you find out the beam focus is poor WITHOUT stumping up £120 or so? Plus the electronics are often suspect too, with ballasts and even bulbs not lasting mnore than a few months. And then, would you get your £120 back if they proved to be crud? AND you've already split your lights

 

They were the ones from Aztec performance. Not sure of brand. Will sort some pics out soon

 

Edit that name matey or we will get vaped. Just leave it as 'unkown'.

Interesting as to why yours would be without a brand name.

 

I love reading these threads

 

Not long & we'll all be retro fitting/ whinging about these!

http://www.electronicsweekly.com/Art...emium-cars.htm

 

Can't see WHY it should get vaped: the seller has made lots of noise about how good his product is.

I'm still waiting on my mate, who has a set from a well-known dealer, in a Cibie branded, circular, reflector/lens headlight. His are two different colors and the focus is appalling, on bith dip AND main.

Add to that they most definitely were NOT plug and play. I'll try and get him to get some pics this weekend, including one of the colour variation, if poss.

 

Alcazar - thank very much for the posts.. very enlightening (excuse the pun).

To summarise - are you saying that the only way to legally, and accurately (in terms of both focus and brightness) improve the standard of light from classic lenses is the fit Morette twin headlamps and upgrade the bulbs within them?

How about something like what Darms did with his? As in retrofitting the projectors and HIDS into the headlight (I recall reading earlier that you said retrofit is a potential MOT failure).

Also interested if you ever hear something back from the ebay seller..

Like most of us with classics, I might as well have candles on the front on mine but do not want to fit any old kit and blind other road users (plus be disappointed with the results).

Much appreciated