Lee247

This really is digusting. Who started all this Human Rights milarky? It really does need kicking into touch. It seem it only applies to the ******* living in the Country and not the law abiding citizens.

Was there not something on the news today about trying to get him kicked out of the Country as there has been such an uproar about it.
I hope I didn't imagine it!

JTaylor

Would his children go with him?

ScoobyWon't

Not if you run them down in a hit and run.

Martin2005

Yeah, bloody humans, they don't deserve any 'rights'

mart360

Do what they do in Oz, to people waiting deportation...

Immidiate removal to a detention centre, and charged $50 per day for each day they use the detention centre's facility's

Failure to settle the bill before deportation (in some cases 2 weeks),

results in an immediate and Permanent exclusion from the country!!!

Given some of our lot string it out for 12 months's, just think of the

revenue it would generate ..£18,250

Personally i think it should be a maximum turnround of 14 days, with no

appeals after that.

This guy should be on the next flight out of here today, what happens

after that is his own lookout not ours!

Mart

JonMc

iTrader: (51)

It is exactly the same issue when convicted prisoners expect anything other than basic life support facilities because they have 'human rights'. It may be a bit draconian, but as adult men and women we have the freedom to choose to do right or wrong; if we chose wrong and get caught then surely it is that choice that forfeits your 'human rights' especially if your actions have violated the human rights of your victim to lead a respectable and full life.

The fact that this individual has been granted permission to continue to leech of UK society despite being a repeat offender just because he has kids is intolerable. His kids don't stand much chance given his record and if this runs true to form his kids will be just as a bad, feeling that they are owed something, and will just take, take, take. Sorry, it's not racist as there are just as many umpteenth generation Brits who are just as hateful and it is one of my bug-bears; I cannot stand people who lack respect for others and do not pull their own weight or justify their existence especially given the number of people who have and still do give their lives to protect our way of life.

DCI Gene Hunt

There's nowt wrong with "human rights" but it should be on the basis that the person being entitled to them show's some form of humanity themselves...

Clearly the Iraqi didn't and therefore shouldn't be entitled to any in return...

Martin2005

I think it's bloody terrible of course. I was reacting to the usual SN nonsense about how unnecessary 'human rights' are. The law (or the way it's being interpreted) needs changing absolutely without question.

I could equally argue that you are using the death of a 12 year old to make your own fairly dubious anti-everything points....but i wont.

dpb

Yeah, bloody 'humans', they don't deserve any rights


Martin misappropriated his apostrophes to cause a stir , as usual

The Zohan

Morning Martin,

I do doubt anyone wishes harm to the scumbags kids or wife/partner.

The outrage and disgust for me is this.

The scumbag is/has:
Violent
Drug Dealer
Disqualified driver who killed a 12 y/o girl though his actions (his choice to dive whilst disqualified)
Fled the scene leaving the child trapped under the car to die
Committed more crimes after killing the girl

This is not a nice human being by any stretch and does not deserve to stay in this country.


Now to compund his crimes he is allowed to stay - why because we are slaves to ECHR and EU law and the real kicker is that this POS has played the system had his kids and chances are knowing he will be allowed to stay here because of this.
This now also sets a president to all Illegal scumbags - have kids here and stay do what you want to who you want...

This boils my pi$$.

Camoron, you wrote to the farther of that poor girl saying you would do all you could to deport this POS - Not much then eh Dave? - you are the PM and run this country yet you cannot or will not do the right thing!

DCI Gene Hunt

I feel that soon he'll be asking to be returned to Iraq

JonMc

iTrader: (51)

Hopefully the start of a mass exodus of unwanteds and undesirables

Leslie

The next problem no doubt is that when that murdering lout is let out on the streets again he will just go and do it all over again going by his previous record.

That prat Clarke will have a lot to answer for with his attitude to keeping all these criminals out of prison.

Les

GC8WRX

you really are a **** arent you mate?


so you think he should be able to stay here to run over more kids|?



When will people realise if your a criminal you automatically give up all human rights!

GC8WRX

cos if you did you would be shot down and banned form this site for spouting complete pc bollocks

Lee247

Yes, if they want to stay with their Father.

No one is saying human rights are unnecessary. They are being used and abused. Common sense should prevail in circumstances like this. He should have NO human rights at all. Anyone who can do what he did, is not human, in my eyes. I don't want him around me and mine and if that means he goes, he goes. End of.

David Lock

OK so where do you draw the line on the "send 'em back" argument?

Say you have an asylum seeker here and, whist the authenticity of his claims are being investigated, he breaks the law and gets a parking ticket or perhaps more seriously he is caught selling skunk? Do you throw him out to a possible death back in his home country.

Now the guy in this thread may well have burnt his boats but there must be a line drawn somewhere so where is it?

dl

JonMc

iTrader: (51)

There is drawing a line and it is not as difficult as some people make out - parking ticket, private use of skunk = misdemeanours, but stabbing some old woman for the money to pay for the skunk, running over and leaving to die a young child are definitely over the line. If the act is inhumane, then the individuals right to humane treatment is lost. Put it to the test, if it was your daughter what would you do/think, or even simpler if someone close to you was adversely affected by the criminal actions of someone seeking asylum would you be as sympathetic or tolerant?

Lee247

Possible death in his own country does not bother me one jot. He has killed a child.
As I said, common sense and some new laws. Serious crime means immediate removal, less serious should be the same as what is dished out to anyone else. None of this human rights stuff should even be brought into the equation. They do the crime, they do the time.
I am not meaning to be harsh, but I will not welcome or encourage people like him to our land. He has come here seeking asylum and has abused our hospitality.

dpb

His misdemeanors should have meant he wasnt accepted to start with !

The only reason hes here at all is because these particular set of people are at the top of list for people that cant be sent back , that and the fact hes procreated

Adrian F

I believe asylum seekers have to settle in the first safe country they arrive in since when have we bordered Iraq these aren't asylum seekers these are economic migrants using the pretence of asylum seeking to be allowed to settle here and in many cases live a better standard of living paid for by the State through your Taxes.

Australia has the correct system if we need your skills and you have sufficient money in the bank you are welcome other than that they send you back and as i said all these people we are discussing have traveled through other European countries to get here they will stay there in future if they know that there is no chance to settle here.we have well over 3 million people unemployed we dont need economic migrants for low skill jobs do we!

If you commit and are convicted of a crime sufficient for a prison sentence then you have your right to stay with drawn, see easy to set a boundary, there are lots of honest hard working people who have come to this country and make a positive contribution i am sure they would support that rule they dont want these type of people here anymore than anyone else

Adrian F

And i hope he takes his children with him otherwise they will only know a life of living on benefits and what sort of example would that be.

though i do wonder what their mother is like have children with this type of man?

Leslie

Well said Lee. It came originally from the Eu of course and Billy Liar signed us up to them to curry favour with that corrupt organisation.

The PC Plonkers have seized on it to go OTT as they love to do of course.

Les