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Old 07 December 2010, 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Tone Loc
Interesting thread, one thing confuses me tho...



But then...



So you control the policies but don't make the rules. What's the difference?

Tony.

You really asking such a silly question ?

Do police make the laws? The boss decides on what needs to be done and then the minions do the work .. the same as very other company ..
Old 07 December 2010, 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by warrenm2
Lucky you, end users are a nightmare


Thanks for the personal comments when I explicitly said I wasn't referring to you. You are not me...

Within what they are allowed to do by OFCOM, such as notifying customers to a change in service for instance...

with VM's deception of advertising 50Mb and delivering less than a tenth of that for newsgroup traffic at all the times Im going to be at home....

which since most of this thread is about downloading is completely of no use to me or the other posters on this thread whatsoever.
Which personal comments? you had a rant.. its not an insult ..

50Mb adverts have subject to T&C .. one of which (if its present) will be the traffic monitoring ...

That's pretty much all I have to say on this, if you don't like VM go elsewhere, I personally use them and have never had a problem ..
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i have never had my 50meg connect throttled AFAIK. always max out my news connection. the odd time it drops but a modem and router reset has me back up again. Pimmo any indication of any UBRs in belfast being ready yet?
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Originally Posted by bigsinky
i have never had my 50meg connect throttled AFAIK. always max out my news connection. the odd time it drops but a modem and router reset has me back up again. Pimmo any indication of any UBRs in belfast being ready yet?

The install dates are protected for some reason ...
Old 07 December 2010, 01:11 PM
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i get rougly 35-40mb out of my 50mb connection, and tbh i find that OTT, the rates you get are never that high (or very rarley) because your limited by the other end. so very happy with virgin on that front

the TV service, well thats a different story, there a bunch of useless muppets. but thats a whole different subject lol
Old 07 December 2010, 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by pimmo2000
You really asking such a silly question ?
Maybe i didn't ask the question as clearly as i should, you said this...

Originally Posted by pimmo2000
No mate I'm not misinformed, I control the traffic policies .. I'm not going to risk my job talking about them ..
Indicating to me that there is something in the traffic policies which you are controlling but can't say on here, but the rules should be clear for all to see in the T&Cs... so whats the difference between what you are enforcing as the VM police compared to the whats the Law, i.e T&Cs? Is there a difference?

That was the question, unless i'm miss reading the 'risk my job' statement??
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Speedtest.net is rubbish, I get



That's 371Mbps down and 8.08Mbps up

Now I know that's not possible as the PC is only connected via a 100Mbps Ethernet cable. The upload is correct though I'm on FTTC via PlusNet.
Old 07 December 2010, 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Tone Loc
Maybe i didn't ask the question as clearly as i should, you said this...



Indicating to me that there is something in the traffic policies which you are controlling but can't say on here, but the rules should be clear for all to see in the T&Cs... so whats the difference between what you are enforcing as the VM police compared to the whats the Law, i.e T&Cs? Is there a difference?

That was the question, unless i'm miss reading the 'risk my job' statement??

ok, I get you, I can't really talk about traffic management because if I say the wrong thing, or put it in a none VM way, I would cause complaints and people tend to quote ..

Old 07 December 2010, 06:41 PM
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Virgin don't traffic manage on the 50mb, I get 50mb all the time for downloads unless its a really old newzgroup header which is really slow and I just cancell the download
Old 08 December 2010, 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by stevebt
Virgin don't traffic manage on the 50mb, I get 50mb all the time for downloads unless its a really old newzgroup header which is really slow and I just cancell the download
You've not read this thread have you....
Old 08 December 2010, 02:03 PM
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I dont get throttled on different ports.
Old 08 December 2010, 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by warrenm2
You've not read this thread have you....

He's giving you fact from his own connection .. regardless of what others say or think .. he doesn't get managed ..
Old 08 December 2010, 04:46 PM
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^^^ What he says

I have downloaded five 3D blueray films straight off and it was 272gig and it all downloaded at 50mb

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Old 08 December 2010, 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by stevebt
^^^ What he says

I have downloaded five 3D blueray films straight off and it was 272gig and it all downloaded at 50mb
LOL - using port 443 I bet.... now just try it again using 563 and see what happens!

VM appear to be killing any volume of traffic on 563 but leaving 443 completely unmanaged - or at least they are right now on my 50Mb connection.
Old 09 December 2010, 10:14 AM
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^^^^ yep seems to be the case here in belfast. 563 seems to be slower than 443 for some reason.
Old 09 December 2010, 01:19 PM
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currently 50mb isn't throttled at all, no mater the downloaded amount.

http://shop.virginmedia.com/help/tra...nt-policy.html

if it is they are breaking there T and C and thats a very big no no.

from reading the site there are plans to increse upload speeds, and throttle those back for heavy users across the board.

i regularly download steam games and find that the limit is steam not the connection, downloading 1 thing i get 5-6mbs, 2 gets 5-6mbs per item.

at the min servers on the main can't upload as fast as the 50mb will download and tats where you limit is.
Old 09 December 2010, 07:44 PM
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If you go for the 100mb do you have to use the combined router and modem? I like my current setup.
Old 09 December 2010, 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by chrisowe
If you go for the 100mb do you have to use the combined router and modem? I like my current setup.

Either the N router and VMG300 modem or the new superhub modem ..
Old 10 December 2010, 10:42 PM
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Originally Posted by pimmo2000
Either the N router and VMG300 modem or the new superhub modem ..
That's good I like my shiny modem.
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When they set my 50mb up they never used there own router as mine was far superior so basically I paid a £30 setup fee for someone to plug a modem in which I wasn't happy about!
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I use my own router, but they still gave me the Dlink router and wireless dongle. It's part of the package.
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Originally Posted by pimmo2000
He's giving you fact from his own connection .. regardless of what others say or think .. he doesn't get managed ..
Then all that tells us is that the throttling is applied to certain areas and not others. Whether thats due to a rollout or capacity or usage, only pimmo knows and he's not saying anything useful. So your actual experience varies from area to area, VM lottery. Is that what you're paying for? Good luck

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Originally Posted by Tidgy
currently 50mb isn't throttled at all, no mater the downloaded amount.
You've misunderstood. We are not talking about AMOUNT of data, we are talking about TYPE of data.

As before see http://shop.virginmedia.com/help/tra...nt-policy.html 1st paragraph under the heading file sharing "This policy, which applies to all broadband packages...". VM have to post this BTW under OFCOM rulings, but make it as hard as possible to find as they can get away with... (IMHO )

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Old 12 December 2010, 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by stevebt
When they set my 50mb up they never used there own router as mine was far superior so basically I paid a £30 setup fee for someone to plug a modem in which I wasn't happy about!
The install is to cover the cost of the modem too, they're quite expensive ..

The tech wouldn't have set the router up for you... or at least he shouldn't ... not allowed to touch the customers PC .. so its easier to just tell them to call in if they get stuck ..

Originally Posted by chrisowe
I use my own router, but they still gave me the Dlink router and wireless dongle. It's part of the package.

Agreed, you should of been given a router too .. even if you don't need it, its part of the install.
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pimmo are those ubrs in belfast still locked? 100meg any time soon?
Old 13 December 2010, 11:09 PM
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Originally Posted by bigsinky
pimmo are those ubrs in belfast still locked? 100meg any time soon?

Its not the UBR's that are locked, the Billing code is protected as they want to make sure the UBRs can take it .. dont want to offer 100Mb that doesnt work
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