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Old Nov 7, 2010 | 11:17 AM
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Faith schools.... there's been Catholic, CoE and Jewish faith schools since the mid 1850's so it's hardly something new.
But they didn't teach Shar'ia and theocracy, did they? I have to counter otherwise some numpty will look at it and think "good point". Well it isn't a good point, it's naive.
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Old Nov 7, 2010 | 11:22 AM
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But they didn't teach Shar'ia and theocracy, did they? I have to counter otherwise some numpty will look at it and think "good point". Well it isn't a good point, it's naive.
in your opinion
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Old Nov 7, 2010 | 11:24 AM
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Why is a Muslim school any different to a Catholic school ... ban one & you'll need to ban them all. Not likely then ...

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Old Nov 7, 2010 | 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Terminator X
Why is a Muslim school any different to a Catholic school
I really hope you do actually know the answer to that question.

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... ban one & you'll need to ban them all. Not likely then ...

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And this is the problem: but ignoring it isn't the answer.
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Old Nov 7, 2010 | 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by scoobyd00999
in your opinion
It's not an opinion, it's an immutable fact.

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Old Nov 7, 2010 | 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by JTaylor
I really hope you do actually know the answer to that question.
Very funny ... they're both religious schools.

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Old Nov 7, 2010 | 11:38 AM
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No its your opinion not mine and not others on here or are you so far up your own **** to realise that
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Old Nov 7, 2010 | 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Terminator X
Very funny ... they're both religious schools.

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And Islamic religious schools teach Islamic ideology that's in opposition to the interests of the West. It's all out there in the public domain, TX. As you've rightly pointed out, the challenge is that at this juncture there isn't the legal framework in place to ban them. We have a system that's forced to be tolerant of a powerful and growing ideological enemy.
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Old Nov 7, 2010 | 11:52 AM
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how about a catholic school in a muslim country?
I don't think thats gonna happen somehow, if they only want to mix with each other stay in your own country
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Old Nov 7, 2010 | 11:52 AM
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Its not the faith so much as the intergration into the UK's society.

Best not forget Abu Hamza http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2006/se...errorism.world
The Islamic school that played host to Hamza

Faith Schools i do not have a problem with as such but and it is a BIG but other than it hardly teaches integration and understanding of other people being separated/segregated due to their religious beliefs. I find this to be dangerous because people are naturally scared and mistrusting of what they do not understand - on both sides of the school walls!!!

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle1336853.ece
http://www.tes.co.uk/article.aspx?storycode=6029870

Many examples out there. I am sure the Jewish and catholic faith schools are not perfect but what concerns me is that in the case of OFSTED the lunatics are taking over the asylum.

This country has developed and evolved over many 100's years we have fought wars and lost countless 1000's of men and women to keep our free speech and rights. I do feel that some people take this for granted and in some cases use this against 'us' Just my humble opinion.

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No its your opinion not mine and not others on here or are you so far up your own **** to realise that
I can assure you that Catholic, Protestant and Jewish schools do not teach Shar'ia and support theocracy. If you choose to deny this fact, you're at liberty to do so.
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Old Nov 7, 2010 | 12:15 PM
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peolpe refusing to see the bigger picture make me laugh, **** like this is a BIG problem.



Surely its a conflict of interest if the inspector writing the reports is a religious nutter with a one sided agenda?



its like i neeed to have a record on repeat, if you dont like wetsern values **** off to the east!
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Old Nov 7, 2010 | 12:27 PM
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It's not a case of not seeing "the bigger picture" it's a case of a couple of users declaring there's a bigger picture but not articulating what they believe it is...

Take JT, he clearly has issues with Islamist stuff, but decides to rather than state what these are play some kind of "you tell me" game with a couple of people on here, almost as if they'll turn around and say "yep, world domination .... that's the goal" then you get his genuine view of the world diminished by TDW being his usual twatish self and just jumping on a bandwagon like some bitch - followed by your ultra "don't like it then **** off" view (which I rather like btw ).

So as we all "don't get it" how about you all spell it out for us
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Originally Posted by JTaylor
I can assure you that Catholic, Protestant and Jewish schools do not teach Shar'ia and support theocracy. If you choose to deny this fact, you're at liberty to do so.
I dont deny that fact, but looking back at your previous posts you seem to have a problem with muslims and narrowminded enough to assume that all muslims run around with bombs strapped to their chests.If you feel that strongly on the subject vote BNP and take your argument to their forum.
I am british and enjoy the fact but you are just a racist,like i said have a look at your old posts,see a pattern forming
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Old Nov 7, 2010 | 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by GC8WRX
people refusing to see the bigger picture make me laugh, **** like this is a BIG problem.
That about sums it up in a sentence.
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Old Nov 7, 2010 | 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by DCI Gene Hunt
It's not a case of not seeing "the bigger picture" it's a case of a couple of users declaring there's a bigger picture but not articulating what they believe it is...

Take JT, he clearly has issues with Islamist stuff, but decides to rather than state what these are play some kind of "you tell me" game with a couple of people on here, almost as if they'll turn around and say "yep, world domination .... that's the goal" then you get his genuine view of the world diminished by TDW being his usual twatish self and just jumping on a bandwagon like some bitch - followed by your ultra "don't like it then **** off" view (which I rather like btw ).

So as we all "don't get it" how about you all spell it out for us
ill spell it out, in 30 years we (the indiginous population, white middle class england, if you will) will be outnumbered by illiterate religious ******* who hate everything about the country they are in, WILL change it to suit them cos our governmnet wont do a thing about it and take pleasure in basically taking england back to 1500 A.D



Islam is not compatible with the west, its a backwards religion for idiots who think we are in iraq circa 100 years ago, the world has moved on, islam and its brainwashed followers have not.
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Old Nov 7, 2010 | 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by scoobyd00999
I dont deny that fact, but looking back at your previous posts you seem to have a problem with muslims and narrowminded enough to assume that all muslims run around with bombs strapped to their chests.If you feel that strongly on the subject vote BNP and take your argument to their forum.
I am british and enjoy the fact but you are just a racist,like i said have a look at your old posts,see a pattern forming
while they dont have bombs strapped to their chests, they all agree with the islam will dominate sh1te, even people like aladdin try to come across as reasonably normal, then when someone posts "islam will dominate the world", hee immediately posts FTW or for the win, all muslims have been brainwashed into the idealologyjust most wont admit it!
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On the one hand JTaylor bleats on about our western values and social development, and on the other he is pro-euro, possibly one world government? (we are vulnerable you see, so we need protection, Comrades). So, happy to defend the almighty achievement that is western democracy (insert extreme sarcasm here) on the one hand, and then trample all over it on the other.

It's as clear as mud.
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Old Nov 7, 2010 | 12:46 PM
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If these schools oppose the western lifestyle, then it's only right that they should oppose public funding from the "westerners". Hypocritically they preach/teach their ideology that rejects this country's way of life, but are quite happy and open to accepting public money from those they hold in contempt. They bite the hand that feeds them, but stupidly we still keep feeding them!
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Originally Posted by Terminator X
Why is a Muslim school any different to a Catholic school ... ban one & you'll need to ban them all. Not likely then ...

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they all need banning, religion is for weak minded people the jedi mind trick would work on!



<waves hand> this is not the religion your looking for!

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Old Nov 7, 2010 | 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by scoobyd00999
I dont deny that fact, but looking back at your previous posts you seem to have a problem with muslims and narrowminded enough to assume that all muslims run around with bombs strapped to their chests.If you feel that strongly on the subject vote BNP and take your argument to their forum.
I am british and enjoy the fact but you are just a racist,like i said have a look at your old posts,see a pattern forming
You've completely misjudged me, which is your right. I'll make a very clear statement for you to ponder. I am not anti-Muslim, I am anti-Islamism. Islamism is a threat, by definition, to the West. I defend the right of any person to pursue their religion (and their right to leave it) and I defend my right to attack an ideology that threatens that very freedom.

One of the major challenges this country faces is that anyone who dares speak out against Islamism (not Muslims) risks being branded as a bigot. It's a low shot, but an effective counter in lieu of a real argument. As such people are fearful of speaking out and this provides fertile ground for the slow creep of Islamism on the one side and the bitterness and ignorance that surpressed thoughts brings on the other. A I stated on another thread: truth springs from argument amongst friends. We're desperately in need of thoughtful, honest, dialogue amongst real people, not just within the bubble of ideologues, academics and politicians.
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imho any specific religous school has no place in our FORCED multicutural society, if the goverment want us all to comply and go along with thier games then they should make the rules fair once and for all and stop the us and them situation ,
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Originally Posted by GC8WRX
ill spell it out, in 30 years we (the indiginous population, white middle class england, if you will) will be outnumbered by illiterate religious ******* who hate everything about the country they are in, WILL change it to suit them cos our governmnet wont do a thing about it and take pleasure in basically taking england back to 1500 A.D



Islam is not compatible with the west, its a backwards religion for idiots who think we are in iraq circa 100 years ago, the world has moved on, islam and its brainwashed followers have not.

Try reading abit of history did the normans(french if you didnt know) not take over england all those years ago,Its the way the world works.We invaded countrys all over the world and now its some one elses turn
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Originally Posted by JTaylor
You've completely misjudged me, which is your right. I'll make a very clear statement for you to ponder. I am not anti-Muslim, I am anti-Islamism. Islamism is a threat, by definition, to the West. I defend the right of any person to pursue their religion (and their right to leave it) and I defend my right to attack an ideology that threatens that very freedom.

One of the major challenges this country faces is that anyone who dares speak out against Islamism (not Muslims) risks being branded as a bigot. It's a low shot, but an effective counter in lieu of a real argument. As such people are fearful of speaking out and this provides fertile ground for the slow creep of Islamism on the one side and the bitterness and ignorance that surpressed thoughts brings on the other. A I stated on another thread: truth springs from argument amongst friends. We're desperately in need of thoughtful, honest, dialogue amongst real people, not just within the bubble of ideologues, academics and politicians.

if i have misjudged you then please look back at all your old threads(from an outsiders point of veiw)and then tell me that you dont have a problem with the muslim faith
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i do have a problem with the muslim faith, a big problem!
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Old Nov 7, 2010 | 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by scoobyd00999
and if you enjoy it so much **** off to another forum where people may give a **** about your views

You must be feeling left out...no one has taken any significant notice of what you say so far.

Perhap's you should **** off to another forum then!

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lol les, did he rattle your cage tyhat much, you are usually the placid type!
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Originally Posted by scoobyd00999
if i have misjudged you then please look back at all your old threads(from an outsiders point of veiw)and then tell me that you dont have a problem with the muslim faith
Oh yes, I have real issues with Islam, I'm a secular humanist and so for me to take any other position would be absurd. If you really want me to condense it down for you I will. Muslims have no choice: born a Muslim, try to leave - ostricism or death and an eternity in Hellfire either way. My issue is not with the individual, they have had their choices removed, my issue is with the construct from which they can't escape. Islamism proposes the surrendering of reason and submission to a supernatural deity across the planet. It is reasonable for me and others to actively oppose it.

I will not condemn any Muslim or Islamic organistion that supports secularism and the right to freedom of expression and conscience.
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Originally Posted by scoobyd00999
Try reading abit of history did the normans(french if you didnt know) not take over england all those years ago,Its the way the world works.We invaded countrys all over the world and now its some one elses turn
.....and there you have it. The truth keeps coming out, time and time again and yet there are still people on this forum who refuse to acknowledge the threat.
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lol les, did he rattle your cage tyhat much, you are usually the placid type!
I think someone has reduced the bromide content of his tea

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