Ofsted praises Islamic schools which oppose Western lifestyle
But they didn't teach Shar'ia and theocracy, did they? I have to counter otherwise some numpty will look at it and think "good point". Well it isn't a good point, it's naive.
I really hope you do actually know the answer to that question.
And this is the problem: but ignoring it isn't the answer.
And this is the problem: but ignoring it isn't the answer.
And Islamic religious schools teach Islamic ideology that's in opposition to the interests of the West. It's all out there in the public domain, TX. As you've rightly pointed out, the challenge is that at this juncture there isn't the legal framework in place to ban them. We have a system that's forced to be tolerant of a powerful and growing ideological enemy.
Its not the faith so much as the intergration into the UK's society.
Best not forget Abu Hamza http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2006/se...errorism.world
The Islamic school that played host to Hamza
Faith Schools i do not have a problem with as such but and it is a BIG but other than it hardly teaches integration and understanding of other people being separated/segregated due to their religious beliefs. I find this to be dangerous because people are naturally scared and mistrusting of what they do not understand - on both sides of the school walls!!!
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle1336853.ece
http://www.tes.co.uk/article.aspx?storycode=6029870
Many examples out there. I am sure the Jewish and catholic faith schools are not perfect but what concerns me is that in the case of OFSTED the lunatics are taking over the asylum.
This country has developed and evolved over many 100's years we have fought wars and lost countless 1000's of men and women to keep our free speech and rights. I do feel that some people take this for granted and in some cases use this against 'us'
Just my humble opinion.
Best not forget Abu Hamza http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2006/se...errorism.world
The Islamic school that played host to Hamza
Faith Schools i do not have a problem with as such but and it is a BIG but other than it hardly teaches integration and understanding of other people being separated/segregated due to their religious beliefs. I find this to be dangerous because people are naturally scared and mistrusting of what they do not understand - on both sides of the school walls!!!
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle1336853.ece
http://www.tes.co.uk/article.aspx?storycode=6029870
Many examples out there. I am sure the Jewish and catholic faith schools are not perfect but what concerns me is that in the case of OFSTED the lunatics are taking over the asylum.
This country has developed and evolved over many 100's years we have fought wars and lost countless 1000's of men and women to keep our free speech and rights. I do feel that some people take this for granted and in some cases use this against 'us'
Just my humble opinion.
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I can assure you that Catholic, Protestant and Jewish schools do not teach Shar'ia and support theocracy. If you choose to deny this fact, you're at liberty to do so.
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peolpe refusing to see the bigger picture make me laugh, **** like this is a BIG problem.
Surely its a conflict of interest if the inspector writing the reports is a religious nutter with a one sided agenda?
its like i neeed to have a record on repeat, if you dont like wetsern values **** off to the east!
Surely its a conflict of interest if the inspector writing the reports is a religious nutter with a one sided agenda?
its like i neeed to have a record on repeat, if you dont like wetsern values **** off to the east!
It's not a case of not seeing "the bigger picture" it's a case of a couple of users declaring there's a bigger picture but not articulating what they believe it is...
Take JT, he clearly has issues with Islamist stuff, but decides to rather than state what these are play some kind of "you tell me" game with a couple of people on here, almost as if they'll turn around and say "yep, world domination .... that's the goal" then you get his genuine view of the world diminished by TDW being his usual twatish self and just jumping on a bandwagon like some bitch - followed by your ultra "don't like it then **** off" view (which I rather like btw
).
So as we all "don't get it" how about you all spell it out for us
Take JT, he clearly has issues with Islamist stuff, but decides to rather than state what these are play some kind of "you tell me" game with a couple of people on here, almost as if they'll turn around and say "yep, world domination .... that's the goal" then you get his genuine view of the world diminished by TDW being his usual twatish self and just jumping on a bandwagon like some bitch - followed by your ultra "don't like it then **** off" view (which I rather like btw
).So as we all "don't get it" how about you all spell it out for us
I am british and enjoy the fact but you are just a racist,like i said have a look at your old posts,see a pattern forming
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It's not a case of not seeing "the bigger picture" it's a case of a couple of users declaring there's a bigger picture but not articulating what they believe it is...
Take JT, he clearly has issues with Islamist stuff, but decides to rather than state what these are play some kind of "you tell me" game with a couple of people on here, almost as if they'll turn around and say "yep, world domination .... that's the goal" then you get his genuine view of the world diminished by TDW being his usual twatish self and just jumping on a bandwagon like some bitch - followed by your ultra "don't like it then **** off" view (which I rather like btw
).
So as we all "don't get it" how about you all spell it out for us
Take JT, he clearly has issues with Islamist stuff, but decides to rather than state what these are play some kind of "you tell me" game with a couple of people on here, almost as if they'll turn around and say "yep, world domination .... that's the goal" then you get his genuine view of the world diminished by TDW being his usual twatish self and just jumping on a bandwagon like some bitch - followed by your ultra "don't like it then **** off" view (which I rather like btw
).So as we all "don't get it" how about you all spell it out for us
Islam is not compatible with the west, its a backwards religion for idiots who think we are in iraq circa 100 years ago, the world has moved on, islam and its brainwashed followers have not.
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I dont deny that fact, but looking back at your previous posts you seem to have a problem with muslims and narrowminded enough to assume that all muslims run around with bombs strapped to their chests.If you feel that strongly on the subject vote BNP and take your argument to their forum.
I am british and enjoy the fact but you are just a racist,like i said have a look at your old posts,see a pattern forming
I am british and enjoy the fact but you are just a racist,like i said have a look at your old posts,see a pattern forming

On the one hand JTaylor bleats on about our western values and social development, and on the other he is pro-euro, possibly one world government? (we are vulnerable you see, so we need protection, Comrades). So, happy to defend the almighty achievement that is western democracy (insert extreme sarcasm here) on the one hand, and then trample all over it on the other.
It's as clear as mud.
It's as clear as mud.
If these schools oppose the western lifestyle, then it's only right that they should oppose public funding from the "westerners". Hypocritically they preach/teach their ideology that rejects this country's way of life, but are quite happy and open to accepting public money from those they hold in contempt. They bite the hand that feeds them, but stupidly we still keep feeding them!
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<waves hand> this is not the religion your looking for!
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I dont deny that fact, but looking back at your previous posts you seem to have a problem with muslims and narrowminded enough to assume that all muslims run around with bombs strapped to their chests.If you feel that strongly on the subject vote BNP and take your argument to their forum.
I am british and enjoy the fact but you are just a racist,like i said have a look at your old posts,see a pattern forming
I am british and enjoy the fact but you are just a racist,like i said have a look at your old posts,see a pattern forming

One of the major challenges this country faces is that anyone who dares speak out against Islamism (not Muslims) risks being branded as a bigot. It's a low shot, but an effective counter in lieu of a real argument. As such people are fearful of speaking out and this provides fertile ground for the slow creep of Islamism on the one side and the bitterness and ignorance that surpressed thoughts brings on the other. A I stated on another thread: truth springs from argument amongst friends. We're desperately in need of thoughtful, honest, dialogue amongst real people, not just within the bubble of ideologues, academics and politicians.
imho any specific religous school has no place in our FORCED multicutural society, if the goverment want us all to comply and go along with thier games then they should make the rules fair once and for all and stop the us and them situation ,
ill spell it out, in 30 years we (the indiginous population, white middle class england, if you will) will be outnumbered by illiterate religious ******* who hate everything about the country they are in, WILL change it to suit them cos our governmnet wont do a thing about it and take pleasure in basically taking england back to 1500 A.D
Islam is not compatible with the west, its a backwards religion for idiots who think we are in iraq circa 100 years ago, the world has moved on, islam and its brainwashed followers have not.
Islam is not compatible with the west, its a backwards religion for idiots who think we are in iraq circa 100 years ago, the world has moved on, islam and its brainwashed followers have not.
Try reading abit of history did the normans(french if you didnt know) not take over england all those years ago,Its the way the world works.We invaded countrys all over the world and now its some one elses turn
You've completely misjudged me, which is your right. I'll make a very clear statement for you to ponder. I am not anti-Muslim, I am anti-Islamism. Islamism is a threat, by definition, to the West. I defend the right of any person to pursue their religion (and their right to leave it) and I defend my right to attack an ideology that threatens that very freedom.
One of the major challenges this country faces is that anyone who dares speak out against Islamism (not Muslims) risks being branded as a bigot. It's a low shot, but an effective counter in lieu of a real argument. As such people are fearful of speaking out and this provides fertile ground for the slow creep of Islamism on the one side and the bitterness and ignorance that surpressed thoughts brings on the other. A I stated on another thread: truth springs from argument amongst friends. We're desperately in need of thoughtful, honest, dialogue amongst real people, not just within the bubble of ideologues, academics and politicians.
One of the major challenges this country faces is that anyone who dares speak out against Islamism (not Muslims) risks being branded as a bigot. It's a low shot, but an effective counter in lieu of a real argument. As such people are fearful of speaking out and this provides fertile ground for the slow creep of Islamism on the one side and the bitterness and ignorance that surpressed thoughts brings on the other. A I stated on another thread: truth springs from argument amongst friends. We're desperately in need of thoughtful, honest, dialogue amongst real people, not just within the bubble of ideologues, academics and politicians.
if i have misjudged you then please look back at all your old threads(from an outsiders point of veiw)and then tell me that you dont have a problem with the muslim faith
I will not condemn any Muslim or Islamic organistion that supports secularism and the right to freedom of expression and conscience.
.....and there you have it. The truth keeps coming out, time and time again and yet there are still people on this forum who refuse to acknowledge the threat.



