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Old 09 November 2010, 11:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeff Wiltshire
Nice to see things don't change round here.....Janspeed spouting on about things he doesn't understand.. Oh well enjoy the Audi bashing.
What bashing?

Seriously, if you pump any engine to those levels (in the videos) it is not going to be same as a lightly modded engine.

Something has to give.

Back on track, stop being paranoid about audi bashing, the RS5 could have been a M3 beating car, but it just fell short which is a shame.
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Originally Posted by Janspeed
Quite suprised to see those results.

Audi is very inconsistent, shame really.
In what way? That the TTRS is so close to the RS5 and R8? Brucie bonus of the RS is that it has a turbo to map. At 410hp or so it will be quicker than the bigger engined RS5/R8's.

I've just bought the red TTRS below, pick it up on friday. £37k, good spec, 3k miles on the clock. I can't wait to get the thing mapped and give it the beans.


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Old 10 November 2010, 01:54 PM
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Looks nice that Mitchy and a cracking price you got. How much are these new as the one your getting seems cheap? 340bhp with 31 combined mpg and only 214g/kg seems impressive.

I was thinking aboout a TTS or TTRS before I got my 335i. I just couldn't be arsed with all the hair dresser comments etc. Then having to explain it 'was the sporty one'
Old 10 November 2010, 02:05 PM
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Looks pretty cool Mitchy. Like the RS4, current S4 and TTRS (and R8) but the rest leave me cold.
Old 10 November 2010, 02:07 PM
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£37k for a used TT is cheap!!!!!

I am astonished!
Old 10 November 2010, 02:08 PM
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The problem is that no matter how good/fast it is, it's a TT, that in itself will make it unacceptable to most heterosexual males.

As Mattee said you then have to make excuses for it, explaining that it's the good one, not the gheyer one.
Old 10 November 2010, 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Jimpreza
Looks nice that Mitchy and a cracking price you got. How much are these new as the one your getting seems cheap? 340bhp with 31 combined mpg and only 214g/kg seems impressive.

I was thinking aboout a TTS or TTRS before I got my 335i. I just couldn't be arsed with all the hair dresser comments etc. Then having to explain it 'was the sporty one'
340bhp doesn't sound a lot but with the weight of the car in addition to its impressive torque from 1600rpm, the car really does fly like sh*t off a shovel. It's already hitting 100 in 10.x secs with 335hp. With a remap, the thing is going to be bonkers and in GTR territory.

I specced my car up on the Audi configurator and it came to £48k. However, Audi do offer good discounts on new orders, 10% is common with as much as 15% in some cases, so this would bring it down to £43-44k new.

That was still out of my price range a little so decided to keep an eye on the Audi used car website...

http://usedcars.audi.co.uk/

I can't link you to mine now as it has been taken down but it was on the site for £39k. I phoned them up, asked them to sort out some figures for me, and they dropped it down to £37k. Deal was very good, I also got more in P/X to what I was expecting so I was pleased.

There is a new 1 listed that is very similar to mine..

http://usedcars.audi.co.uk/carview.aspx?id=601146409

I think they would knock a good £3-4k off that without much effort. I just kept looking at the site daily until I found a car with a list of under £40k and after 4 or 5 days, the red 1 came up to which I have now bought

I think with TTS prices being very close at £35k+, and with limited RS numbers, it should keep the values fairly high. (Hopefully)

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Old 10 November 2010, 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Dingdongler
The problem is that no matter how good/fast it is, it's a TT, that in itself will make it unacceptable to most heterosexual males.

As Mattee said you then have to make excuses for it, explaining that it's the good one, not the gheyer one.
That was the slow Mk1 which had that image

With release of S and RS models into the Mk2 range, these are no longer hairdresser cars

Even the new base model 2.0TFSI 208bhp TT does 0-100mph in 14secs. Stunning performance with such little horsepower.

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Old 10 November 2010, 02:22 PM
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I suppose once something has a gheyer image it's difficult to shake. A bit like a Boxster, a great car I'm sure but many men just couldn't be seen in it. Very shallow of course....

Btw, excuse my ignorance but is it rwd/fwd/awd?
Old 10 November 2010, 02:28 PM
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Finance details on my deal Jim are £598pm with a final baloon so more affordable than some people may think. (Deposit was low at £2.5k)

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Old 10 November 2010, 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Dingdongler
I suppose once something has a gheyer image it's difficult to shake. A bit like a Boxster, a great car I'm sure but many men just couldn't be seen in it. Very shallow of course....

Btw, excuse my ignorance but is it rwd/fwd/awd?
Audi Quattro yes, so 4wd.

Its main rival I suppose is the 2.9 and 3.4 engined Caymans. I suspect most would opt for the Porka but all in all, I honestly do think the TTRS offers a better overall package. Performance, build and interior quality, running costs, tuning costs, and for me the rear seats that the cayman does not have was a deal breaker as I have a little lad that has to be strapped into the back now and again.

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But don't you think that when you are out with your girlfriend, every time a Porsche goes past she will be thinking, If only....


Old 10 November 2010, 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Mitchy260
Finance details on my deal Jim are £598pm with a final baloon so more affordable than some people may think. (Deposit was low at £2.5k)
Is that over 4 years with a balloon of around £13k?
Old 10 November 2010, 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Trout
But don't you think that when you are out with your girlfriend, every time a Porsche goes past she will be thinking, If only....


Girlfriend?? In a TT? LOL
Old 10 November 2010, 03:01 PM
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I've spilt my green tea now!!

OK then, sister!
Old 10 November 2010, 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Mitchy260
In what way? That the TTRS is so close to the RS5 and R8? Brucie bonus of the RS is that it has a turbo to map. At 410hp or so it will be quicker than the bigger engined RS5/R8's.

I've just bought the red TTRS below, pick it up on friday. £37k, good spec, 3k miles on the clock. I can't wait to get the thing mapped and give it the beans.

The TT-RS sounds like a great car: power, small(ish) and realtively economical.

Some people say it is "boring" to drive, but maybe they should set it as the benchmark for more hardcore "S" and "RS" versions.
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Originally Posted by Mitchy260
Finance details on my deal Jim are £598pm with a final baloon so more affordable than some people may think. (Deposit was low at £2.5k)
Not at all bad!
Old 10 November 2010, 04:55 PM
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Looks nice, when I was shopping and they were new the gap to a similar spec GTR was less than £10K (S4 seemed similar), I think the gap has widened now they are used as a 59 plate GTR with 3000 miles and in perfect condition would be a struggle for only £10k. RS running costs will be much lower, but you can't seriously compare the performance of the two, I think you'd struggle to get a GTR to 100 in over 10 seconds even if you disconnected the wastegate solenoid, mine with just a map is showing 6.8.
Old 10 November 2010, 04:58 PM
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6.8s to 100?!!

****!
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Originally Posted by john banks
Looks nice, when I was shopping and they were new the gap to a similar spec GTR was less than £10K (S4 seemed similar), I think the gap has widened now they are used as a 59 plate GTR with 3000 miles and in perfect condition would be a struggle for only £10k. RS running costs will be much lower, but you can't seriously compare the performance of the two, I think you'd struggle to get a GTR to 100 in over 10 seconds even if you disconnected the wastegate solenoid, mine with just a map is showing 6.8.
You're right John, the GTR is in a different league but that was not my comparison.

Standard 0-100 time for a GTR is around 8.5secs. A remapped TTRS isn't going to be far off that. (Standard car at 10.3) Yes, I know, you're back at square 1 again when you map the GTR but I was comparing a mapped RS to a standard GTR and said their performance is going to be quite similar.

I'm sure you're aware of LMS racing driver Jonny Cocker,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonny_Cocker

He is a member over on the TT forum, and it now looks like he is in America so selling his TTRS.

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2232727.htm

3.15 to 60 and 11.69 1/4 in a fully loaded car. It's ashame really that he has decided to sell up as there was definitely more in the 1/4 with a bit of weight loss. He was confident he would break into the 10's with his car as posted by him many times on the forum. I dont know what completely stock GTR's are doing in the UK? Must be quite similar in mid 11's?

Yes, I know there are GTR's breaking 9secs, the cars are animals I know. I just dont think people appreciate the pace a mapped RS has to offer. There are not many sub £50k cars that offer such pace GTR is not sub £50k

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There is a lot more to a car than performance,afterall there is no road in the UK you can explore the full potential of a car so purely determining what is the better car by performance is ridiculous.Unfortunately in the GTR case the only thing it has is performance the rest of the car is just bland when you compare it to German interiors and overall looks
Back on topic (sort of) i passed a TTRS earlier on my way to work and it looks amazing in the flesh so much nicer than the porker boxster and cayman
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There are two at work, one with the fixed spoiler, another with the auto spoiler.

Still not decided which looks cooler.

The R8 looks great in GT form, maybe the RS5 should have a spoiler............

Maybe it would be spoilt from then on!
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Originally Posted by Mitchy260
In what way? That the TTRS is so close to the RS5 and R8? Brucie bonus of the RS is that it has a turbo to map. At 410hp or so it will be quicker than the bigger engined RS5/R8's.

I've just bought the red TTRS below, pick it up on friday. £37k, good spec, 3k miles on the clock. I can't wait to get the thing mapped and give it the beans.


Looks nice. i specced a Blue on up, but it was closer to £50k.

Though you are comparing modified with standard regarding the R8 (V8).

The thing with the R8, is that it has been designed with a clean sheet of paper. It's low, wide, and has it's engine as low as possible to help with the centre of gravity. I've driven one several time on a race track, and no TT-RS could live with an R8 on the bends.

The TT after all is just an A3 with a different body. Bit like a Caviler and a calibra.
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It is a good car, under-rated by many arguably, but expensive, and 10.3 to 100 is sadly nothing like 8.5 in terms of excitement, g-force, feel, car lengths etc. The effort required for me to knock off another 1.8 seconds off my 0-100 is considerable, although for the purposes of argument of course I'm twisting it a bit as further drops get harder and losing 1.8 seconds from a near 7 second run is much more significant than 1.8 seconds from a near 10 second run.

To add 100 BHP to a 350 BHP car is impressive with just exhaust, intake, software. On the GTR we add about the same to 500 BHP with the same mods.

Nice car, I just couldn't make the numbers add up for me with it, but it could counter with good running costs and resale.

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Not very cheap, but looks good:

http://www.mtm-online.de/en/Audi/TTR...ZID=TTRS8J250Q
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And I thought GTR modding was expensive!

Once you've modded it to near stock GTR performance in a straight line along with some work on suspension and brakes, it ends up costing at least as much doesn't it?

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Originally Posted by john banks
And I thought GTR modding was expensive!

Once you've modded it to near stock GTR performance in a straight line along with some work on suspension and brakes, it ends up costing at least as much doesn't it?
Not quite John, not quite.

http://www.tt-forum.co.uk/forum/view...?f=27&t=184105

£2.2k will get you to the 450hp figure. I have no idea what MTM are playing at with their pricing, ludicrous. Suspension and brakes however would need a tweak so another few £k on top.

Running costs scare the sh*t out of most for GTR ownership. TTRS is relatively cheap to run.

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Originally Posted by stilover
Looks nice. i specced a Blue on up, but it was closer to £50k.

The TT after all is just an A3 with a different body. Bit like a Caviler and a calibra.
those two comments make a 911 seem like a bargain
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Originally Posted by Mitchy260
Not quite John, not quite.

http://www.tt-forum.co.uk/forum/view...?f=27&t=184105

£2.2k will get you to the 450hp figure. I have no idea what MTM are playing at with their pricing, ludicrous. Suspension and brakes however would need a tweak so another few £k on top.

Running costs scare the sh*t out of most for GTR ownership. TTRS is relatively cheap to run.
Ah my old friend James, not spoken to him in a few years. Glad he is still doing good value and effective tuning.
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Originally Posted by Mitchy260
Not quite John, not quite.

http://www.tt-forum.co.uk/forum/view...?f=27&t=184105

£2.2k will get you to the 450hp figure. I have no idea what MTM are playing at with their pricing, ludicrous. Suspension and brakes however would need a tweak so another few £k on top.

Running costs scare the sh*t out of most for GTR ownership. TTRS is relatively cheap to run.
Have these figures been substantiated? 340 to 420 BHP ie 80 BHP by just a remap? That is quite a lot isn't it from a remap alone? Is there something about this VAG engine that makes it more tuneable than other turbo charged engines?


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