And the most terrifying and depressing: psychological control by a brutal, makebelieve, perpetual supervisory dictator. No. Way. Out.

 

Try a nice cup of tea, you may feel better.

 

OMG how will you sleep tonight?

Get a grip man

 

I just like the drama.

 

It is always people who cause the troubles!

Les

 

Well it ain't wilderbeast, a member of the cephalapod family or a supernatural entity. In other words, and with respect, who the **** else could it be?!

 

Or even Wildebeest? Chill out man, you'll give yourself a coronary.....

 

No. I meant beasts wilder than homo sapiens, I just kissed the space. And who the hell are you tellng to chill out?!!!!!!! I'm fine!!

 

Sounds like it............

 

Missed. ****!!!!!

 

 

 

I'd be interested to hear some of the forums Muslims explain the notion of apostasy and justify it.

I read in the paper the other day about a wealthy British family adopting a very young Pakistani girl (1 year old or something) from Pakistan. They said they were determined she should be brought up a Muslim.

I thought this was idiot and made no sense.

Why indoctrinate someone?

Thoughts?

 

Over the past ten years, I've never heard a Muslim convincingly refute the claim. Not once. I too would like to see one of our Muslim brothers come on and tell us about their options around belief. Let's talk freedom of conscience; the very essence of human existence.

 

Tony de W and JT,

I am going to be 100% honest with you here. At times you come across to me like you are conducting a witch hunt in NSR as regards Muslims. You say otherwise and I am giving you the benefit of the doubt, but even then I seriously doubt that no matter what argument any Muslims were able to present it wouldn't be enough for you to ever change your views.

Given that, I seriously doubt the Muslims on SN would feel the desire to enagage on these threads.

Just a thought.

 

If you're so passionate about it why not **** off to a muslim forum and debate it?

 

+1 For DCI (a non-muslim brother)

 

I tend to agree, they might even be 'shudder' the same person.

 

Fine, don't debate then.

You realise that refusing to debate is a sign of weakness?

 

Which forum is that then?

 

Yeah, but I think I can live with myself on this occasion. As you can see I am not the only one who feels this way... make of that what you will.

 

f1 - TDW is a **** of the first order of *****

 

What an odd thing to say! Some might say harping on about one subject is a sign of weakness.

 

Learn to think.

 

Aaaah the long lost Feudal System of the **** dynasty.

 

With gems like the below he is certainly auditioning for the role

 

No if you refuse to engage in a reasonable debate it's a sign that your arguments cannot withstand the light of day...being as they are too weak.

On top of that he used an ad hom fallacy to attack me.

It all adds up to him having no reasonable argument.

I can understand the idea of apostasy being a matter of faith - and not being amenable to reason - but I would like to hear that, although it begs the question why it should apply to other people?

 

I tell you what, can you think about facking off for good. Im not in the firing line on this one and you are p1ssing me right off. You dont half talk down to people dont you? If you want to converse with like minded people, this is not the place to do it obviously.

 

I'll talk down to people who attack me sure.

 

I guess Im next then..........