Poppy Appeal and Muslim opposition
30 October 2010, 03:10 PM
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Sorry for the outburst, people like him just make me sick!!!!!!!!Cheers
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30 October 2010, 07:05 PM
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He's a charismatic demagogue with a following. The more voices shouting an extremist message the more acceptable it become to 'join the movement'.
30 October 2010, 07:53 PM
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30 October 2010, 07:54 PM
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Do you think there are neutral, passive Muslims who will be drawn to ideological activism because this clown's giving it the big one? I should imagine that those susceptible will have already been quietly groomed by members of their community.
30 October 2010, 08:03 PM
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First, I don't think this is an extremist message, I just think he's extremely stupid to show his hand. Extreme implies it's leftfield and opposed to the consensus. Is it? How many Islamic ideologists harbour the same view but conceal it? Second, the more vocal and publicity seeking he is, the easier it is for MI5 to monitor him. If he's drawing the (less cerebral) enemy out from underneath their rocks, fantastic, much better than them being seduced by the sophisticated clerics lurking undetected.
Do you think there are neutral, passive Muslims who will be drawn to ideological activism because this clown's giving it the big one? I should imagine that those susceptible will have already been quietly groomed by members of their community.
Do you think there are neutral, passive Muslims who will be drawn to ideological activism because this clown's giving it the big one? I should imagine that those susceptible will have already been quietly groomed by members of their community.
I think his movement needs to be able to preach to recruit. He mixes lies with truth like any good propagandist, and in the absence of such 'advertisement' I don't think any young people can be drawn to his message.
31 October 2010, 01:08 PM
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Its a sign of extremism, the nuttiest ******* have skin heads and massive beards.
If i go into one of the many news agents round here and one is serving i will walk out, i refuse to engage with backwards illiterate ******* that feel the need to diplay their contempt for the west by shaving heads and growing stupid beards!
If i go into one of the many news agents round here and one is serving i will walk out, i refuse to engage with backwards illiterate ******* that feel the need to diplay their contempt for the west by shaving heads and growing stupid beards!
31 October 2010, 01:39 PM
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31 October 2010, 02:59 PM
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31 October 2010, 03:03 PM
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At the firm where I work it seems to be frowned upon to wear a poppy since some of the pakistani employees made a formal complain about the wearing of poppies 'glorifying the killing of their muslim brothers and sisters' in Iraq or whatever, but we're still allowed to wear them if we want to.
We now celebrate eid in our offices now too
, however on the plus side it does mean free cakes 
We now celebrate eid in our offices now too
, however on the plus side it does mean free cakes
31 October 2010, 05:27 PM
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At the firm where I work it seems to be frowned upon to wear a poppy since some of the pakistani employees made a formal complain about the wearing of poppies 'glorifying the killing of their muslim brothers and sisters' in Iraq or whatever, but we're still allowed to wear them if we want to.
We now celebrate eid in our offices now too , however on the plus side it does mean free cakes
We now celebrate eid in our offices now too
, however on the plus side it does mean free cakes I would wear a poppy and to hell with the consequences, hr couldnt kick off that much!
Complain that eid offends you and you want the office based celebrations banned, see if it does, i bet it doesnt, racism only works if your not white
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31 October 2010, 06:59 PM
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this is the stuff that pi55e5 me right off, your in our country, respect our rules or **** off.
I would wear a poppy and to hell with the consequences, hr couldnt kick off that much!
Complain that eid offends you and you want the office based celebrations banned, see if it does, i bet it doesnt, racism only works if your not white
I would wear a poppy and to hell with the consequences, hr couldnt kick off that much!
Complain that eid offends you and you want the office based celebrations banned, see if it does, i bet it doesnt, racism only works if your not white
31 October 2010, 07:06 PM
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I've a theory on this....
People at work actively look for things to complain about because they know that regardless of how stupid their comments are they'll likely receive some form of action.
People at work actively look for things to complain about because they know that regardless of how stupid their comments are they'll likely receive some form of action.
31 October 2010, 07:48 PM
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At the firm where I work it seems to be frowned upon to wear a poppy since some of the pakistani employees made a formal complain about the wearing of poppies 'glorifying the killing of their muslim brothers and sisters' in Iraq or whatever, but we're still allowed to wear them if we want to.
We now celebrate eid in our offices now too , however on the plus side it does mean free cakes
We now celebrate eid in our offices now too
, however on the plus side it does mean free cakes
31 October 2010, 09:51 PM
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At the firm where I work it seems to be frowned upon to wear a poppy since some of the pakistani employees made a formal complain about the wearing of poppies 'glorifying the killing of their muslim brothers and sisters' in Iraq or whatever, but we're still allowed to wear them if we want to.
We now celebrate eid in our offices now too , however on the plus side it does mean free cakes
We now celebrate eid in our offices now too
, however on the plus side it does mean free cakes I wear a cross, proudly and this has never been commented on or even frowned on. All of the companies employees wear their poppies with pride and again, this has never been mentioned at all by the Pakinstani employees or visitors.
31 October 2010, 10:16 PM
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At the firm where I work it seems to be frowned upon to wear a poppy since some of the pakistani employees made a formal complain about the wearing of poppies 'glorifying the killing of their muslim brothers and sisters' in Iraq or whatever, but we're still allowed to wear them if we want to.
31 October 2010, 10:20 PM
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By Siobhan McFadyen ( Notw )
Celtic have banned a charity from selling poppies at Parkhead for Remembrance Sunday .
Now fundraisers are hoping that hoops chairman John Reid - former defense Secretary - will overturn the ruling.
The ban follows protests by supporters who claim poppies are " hugely insensitive " to Irish fans.
The Poppy Appeal,with its 48 member charities,helps raise millions for war veterans injured in active service.
A charity insider said : " We've never been turned away by any of the big clubs and we find it shocking that Celtic would implement this ban " .
Our welfare work is a lifeline for thousands.We hope Mr Reid will reconsider ".
About 100 fans walked out of a match in2008 when players wore poppies on their shirts.
But most of the 50,000 fans joined a one-minute round of applause to mark the anniversary of the end of WWI.
A Celtic spokesman said " We don't do collections in the grounds for anything ".
Celtic have banned a charity from selling poppies at Parkhead for Remembrance Sunday .
Now fundraisers are hoping that hoops chairman John Reid - former defense Secretary - will overturn the ruling.
The ban follows protests by supporters who claim poppies are " hugely insensitive " to Irish fans.
The Poppy Appeal,with its 48 member charities,helps raise millions for war veterans injured in active service.
A charity insider said : " We've never been turned away by any of the big clubs and we find it shocking that Celtic would implement this ban " .
Our welfare work is a lifeline for thousands.We hope Mr Reid will reconsider ".
About 100 fans walked out of a match in2008 when players wore poppies on their shirts.
But most of the 50,000 fans joined a one-minute round of applause to mark the anniversary of the end of WWI.
A Celtic spokesman said " We don't do collections in the grounds for anything ".
People are worried about the Pakistani population protesting about the poppy appeal when there is a so called Scottish team who constantly boast about their charity work refusing to help a charity....
31 October 2010, 10:30 PM
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Cant give a link but thats as that paper has the cheek to charge for web access.
People are worried about the Pakistani population protesting about the poppy appeal when there is a so called Scottish team who constantly boast about their charity work refusing to help a charity....
People are worried about the Pakistani population protesting about the poppy appeal when there is a so called Scottish team who constantly boast about their charity work refusing to help a charity....
31 October 2010, 11:35 PM
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Yeah it does, funny how it's always the lefties who are questioning the believability of any stories they feel are un-PC?..
31 October 2010, 11:48 PM
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OK then put your money where your mouth is. PM me the name and number of the company and I will give them a call about this policy. Don't worry I won't mention any names.
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01 November 2010, 12:41 AM
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No just questioning the stories of people who I think embeliish things to suit their own agenda. As you can see from the other responses I am probably not the only one, I just say it a bit more directly.
OK then put your money where your mouth is. PM me the name and number of the company and I will give them a call about this policy. Don't worry I won't mention any names.
OK then put your money where your mouth is. PM me the name and number of the company and I will give them a call about this policy. Don't worry I won't mention any names.
I'm not saying all people make up stories but I look at these tales with a little caution.
At my work, we had two Muslims start, before they even did their first shift, people were up in arms about 'them' being allowed to pray during working hours. They were just assuming as they hadn't even started yet. I'm not sure whether they do (they both only do 5 hour shifts, so not sure of how many times they'd need to pray if they do at all) but as this has never been mention again, I assume it didn't become a big problem. What I did ask the complainers straight away was what would be the problem so long as it was done during break time? No answer to that other than to still claim it's not right.
It's ok for a person with more or less the same break entitlement to split theirs in two because they smoke, but it's not ok for someone to possibly use theirs to pray. There was another a few years back, and people around Christmas time were moaning about feeling awkward sending Christmas cards because it might offend and they shouldn't be made to feel that way. He even sent them all cards anyway, so obviously more of a problem to my white collegues than him.
I have no time for people not willing to integrate within society, or the extremists out there, but I think we need to get a grip a little. Alot of what we hear are non stories put out there to stir up more hatred. And the overly PC brigade cause as many problems as they try to solve.