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Old 06 September 2010, 09:11 PM
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Still dont understand why they get their breakfast delivered ? surely on 95 grand a year they can have every single type of Pop Tart at their disposal !
Old 06 September 2010, 10:38 PM
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Theyll have trashed the toaster long since !
Old 06 September 2010, 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul Habgood
Do the guns pictures really need commenting on, by not saying anything i am then guilty of feeling the same way??? or somehow condoning it, it is pub talk highly unlikely that a SN'er is going to get a semi auto cut down pump and blow away the chavs because they read something in the DM - this isn't yet the USofA, the land of the free - free of responsibilities that is.

The pen is mightier that the sword and i would rather have the likes of the DM point this sort of thing out so reasonable people can draw their own conclusions and lobby vote to make things better for us all

flabbergasted, really. I have seen you call all sorts of people all sorts of names on here Martin so yet again do not go the pompous and offended from East Grinstead route!

I would rather tell it like it is, i am hardly pompous, verbose maybe but never afraid to call a spade a spade!
OK let's just disagree on the Daily Mail, but agree on the fact that abuses of our benefits system need sorting.

BTW I do not call people 'all sorts of names' that really is unfair and complete untrue but I'll get over it!
Old 07 September 2010, 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul Habgood
Honestly Les, you are a dimwit!
The only answer is to let this sort of news out is in the Guardian - so the gucci socialists and chattering classes can chat about it first over a bottle or two of chardonnay before the riff-raff like you and me get all foaming at the mouths.

Then if they deem it to be 'real news' suitable for us great unwashed we might get to hear about it ut not before another quango is set up to help those poor unfortunate 'one-offs' that need love and indeed new houses because they broke the old one
I would be grateful if you could explain why Paul. Martin understood the question and why I asked it.

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Old 07 September 2010, 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Martin2005
No
Jolly good.

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Old 07 September 2010, 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Leslie
I would be grateful if you could explain why Paul. Martin understood the question and why I asked it.

Les
Its a tongue firmly in cheek reply Les
Old 07 September 2010, 12:54 PM
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there is only one way to sort this out it may take a while to work , but as of now no more benifits after second child , those allready getting would continue but any child born after 9months from now would mean no extra money . at least this would stop second and third generations of these people breeding for money. and thier children who are about to come of breeding age
Old 07 September 2010, 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Martin2005
BTW I do not call people 'all sorts of names' that really is unfair and complete untrue but I'll get over it!
OK a real quick search as i really do have better things to do:

https://www.scoobynet.com/showpost.p...1&postcount=47
You really are a ***** aint ya


At least the flag doesn't have 'ENGLAND' written on it!


I have been called a ***** a few times (hard to believe i know but true) my understanding is it to be a derogatory slang term, comparing someone to a ***** - not a nice remark possibly insulting even if true

I would say you called someone a 'name' and it is is possibly 'true' that you did so - well bugger my aging footwear Mart and anyway i am sure it is just a one-off!

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Old 07 September 2010, 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul Habgood
Its a tongue firmly in cheek reply Les
Oh alright then!

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Old 07 September 2010, 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul Habgood
OK a real quick search as i really do have better things to do:

https://www.scoobynet.com/showpost.p...1&postcount=47
You really are a ***** aint ya


At least the flag doesn't have 'ENGLAND' written on it!

I have been called a ***** a few times (hard to believe i know but true) my understanding is it to be a derogatory slang term, comparing someone to a ***** - not a nice remark possibly insulting even if true

I would say you called someone a 'name' and it is is possibly 'true' that you did so - well bugger my aging footwear Mart and anyway i am sure it is just a one-off!

Blimey you sure must of had to go trawling to find that, hardly convincing evidence that I call people all sorts of names. (do you not have anything else to do)

Plus in this instance there was some real nasty provocation, which you 'forgot' to mention. With that particular invididual it was not an insult this was just me trying to be as accurate as possible

I reckon if you want to spend time researching any thread that I've posted on you'll find I get way more than I give in terms of abuse.

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Old 07 September 2010, 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Martin2005
Blimey you sure must of had to go trawling to find that, hardly convincing evidence that I call people all sorts of names. (do you not have anything else to do)

Plus in this instance there was some real nasty provocation, which you 'forgot' to mention

I reckon if you want to spend time researching any thread that I've posted on you'll find I get way more than I give in terms of abuse.
Martin, Martin Martin, do not try to wriggle, belittle and manouver, a real man knows and admits when he is beaten/found out

you stated you do not call people names and yet you obviously do - and provocation makes it all right does it??? to find it was very easy and took less that 2 minutes of my day. No trawling though endless posts just knowing my way around SN like so many people do, simples

And remember; two wrongs do not make a right unless you read the DM which i understand you do not...or do you???
TTFN

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Old 07 September 2010, 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by madscoob
there is only one way to sort this out it may take a while to work , but as of now no more benifits after second child , those allready getting would continue but any child born after 9months from now would mean no extra money . at least this would stop second and third generations of these people breeding for money. and thier children who are about to come of breeding age
But isn't child benefit itself around £20 a week - not exasctly a kings ransom. The issue is more the other benfits associated with children and low earners. I know as I went to the CAB the other day with regards my debt issues which accrued when unemployed. The big thing is child tax credits which like for like replace the earnings. Example being when my Mrs maternity pay runs out some time next september (shes starting it around december/january), if she decided not to work and be at home with our child her wage would technically be replaced almost in full by child tax credits. Shes only min wage factory fodder BUT if you counter in a few more kids, the odd disability you can see how it escalates into a farcical situation.
Me, I'm not on the scrounge but will certainly accept the credits we are entitled to (unless it changes) as we have both put into the system for approximately 15 years between us. If the situation changes and the government do an overhaul then I will simply work more or she will have a part time job whilst baby is young to provide for ourselves. I certainly won't be suddenly getting a bad back or developing super sperm to breed several times over for welfare benefits.

The key to all of this is children.... have them and the right attitude and the benefits system is there for the picking currently. Explains why I got bugger all when unemployed.
Old 07 September 2010, 05:52 PM
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Follow up for my buddy. They can have the shop up and running for next week. Just in time for his job seekers stopping.
They need to replace the existing sign above said shop. Council wants £95 for them to do this.
They are on the bones of their ar$es until this shop is up and running, the Council is not interested. They just want the money.
Wonder of one of the 95k a year scroungers will lend it to them
Old 07 September 2010, 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by chocolate_o_brian
But isn't child benefit itself around £20 a week - not exasctly a kings ransom. The issue is more the other benfits associated with children and low earners. I know as I went to the CAB the other day with regards my debt issues which accrued when unemployed. The big thing is child tax credits which like for like replace the earnings. Example being when my Mrs maternity pay runs out some time next september (shes starting it around december/january), if she decided not to work and be at home with our child her wage would technically be replaced almost in full by child tax credits. Shes only min wage factory fodder BUT if you counter in a few more kids, the odd disability you can see how it escalates into a farcical situation.
Me, I'm not on the scrounge but will certainly accept the credits we are entitled to (unless it changes) as we have both put into the system for approximately 15 years between us. If the situation changes and the government do an overhaul then I will simply work more or she will have a part time job whilst baby is young to provide for ourselves. I certainly won't be suddenly getting a bad back or developing super sperm to breed several times over for welfare benefits.

The key to all of this is children.... have them and the right attitude and the benefits system is there for the picking currently. Explains why I got bugger all when unemployed.
exactly what i ment when i said benefits i was refering to all the benefits not just child benefit . they all need to have a ceiling to stop them breeding . therfore making dole passengers worse off having more kids like us working people who have to consider the financial implications of having more children before giving the wife one. as at the moment its a KIDS FOR CASH situation
Old 07 September 2010, 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by madscoob
exactly what i ment when i said benefits i was refering to all the benefits not just child benefit . they all need to have a ceiling to stop them breeding . therfore making dole passengers worse off having more kids like us working people who have to consider the financial implications of having more children before giving the wife one. as at the moment its a KIDS FOR CASH situation
Sorry, my misunderstanding.
Old 07 September 2010, 10:28 PM
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"Honestly Les, you are a dimwit!
The only answer is to let this sort of news out is in the Guardian - so the gucci socialists and chattering classes can chat about it first over a bottle or two of chardonnay before the riff-raff like you and me get all foaming at the mouths.

Then if they deem it to be 'real news' suitable for us great unwashed we might get to hear about it ut not before another quango is set up to help those poor unfortunate 'one-offs' that need love and indeed new houses because they broke the old one"

Did the person who wrote this really accuse Martin of name calling?
I guess I'll just have to hope I don't get called a name

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