What Trout did on his holidays
24 August 2010, 12:00 PM
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24 August 2010, 12:17 PM
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All fly fishing 
Now here is the thing about steelhead. They are indeed a sea going version of Rainbow Trout.
I remember when I was younger reading that Rainbows were not a trout, but a char like Lake Trout and Bull Trout.
They have now been reclassified as Pacific Salmon, same family as sockeye, coho, etc.
So it is more like Rainbows being landlocked salmon!
Now here is the thing about steelhead. They are indeed a sea going version of Rainbow Trout.
I remember when I was younger reading that Rainbows were not a trout, but a char like Lake Trout and Bull Trout.
They have now been reclassified as Pacific Salmon, same family as sockeye, coho, etc.
So it is more like Rainbows being landlocked salmon!
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24 August 2010, 12:56 PM
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a) no idea but from your posts on here Canada and Florida within a couple of months of each other = nice lifestyle
b) there is no 'right number' but the norm for the average household would be an annual holiday so anything more than that I would consider a luxury the majority could not afford (not just monetary but time off work plus kids at school etc).
24 August 2010, 01:19 PM
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My post wasn't a dig by the way, more of a case of nice position to be in.
a) no idea but from your posts on here Canada and Florida within a couple of months of each other = nice lifestyle
b) there is no 'right number' but the norm for the average household would be an annual holiday so anything more than that I would consider a luxury the majority could not afford (not just monetary but time off work plus kids at school etc).
a) no idea but from your posts on here Canada and Florida within a couple of months of each other = nice lifestyle
b) there is no 'right number' but the norm for the average household would be an annual holiday so anything more than that I would consider a luxury the majority could not afford (not just monetary but time off work plus kids at school etc).
The two luxuries I have are that I travel a lot with what I do and that means I can be in places to take a holiday, or get to know people who can help me out when I get there - like our trip to Orlando.
The second thing is that I set up my own business five years ago to give me the flexibility to travel and I have worked to ensure the business has a significant amount of passive revenue so that it earns even when I am not there.
I guess that now that the kids are starting school then I may be more limited!!!
24 August 2010, 02:15 PM
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All fly fishing
Now here is the thing about steelhead. They are indeed a sea going version of Rainbow Trout.
I remember when I was younger reading that Rainbows were not a trout, but a char like Lake Trout and Bull Trout.
They have now been reclassified as Pacific Salmon, same family as sockeye, coho, etc.
So it is more like Rainbows being landlocked salmon!
Now here is the thing about steelhead. They are indeed a sea going version of Rainbow Trout.
I remember when I was younger reading that Rainbows were not a trout, but a char like Lake Trout and Bull Trout.
They have now been reclassified as Pacific Salmon, same family as sockeye, coho, etc.
So it is more like Rainbows being landlocked salmon!
I am surprised that they have re-classified Rainbows closer to the salmon family. It is interesting that Rainbows which normally dont breed in this country will actually do so in the Wye in the Duke of Devonshire's estate near Bakewell Derbys.
What sort of fly was the demon killer over there then, apart from the orange blob?
Les
24 August 2010, 02:27 PM
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The second thing is that I set up my own business five years ago to give me the flexibility to travel and I have worked to ensure the business has a significant amount of passive revenue so that it earns even when I am not there.
I guess that now that the kids are starting school then I may be more limited!!!
I guess that now that the kids are starting school then I may be more limited!!!
24 August 2010, 03:47 PM
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We spent just over 3 weeks touring British Columbia and the Rockies by car/hotels a couple of years ago.
It is without a doubt the best thing I have ever done and seen by a long way.
Those who want to go..... get saving as it will be worth every penny
Life is too short!
It is without a doubt the best thing I have ever done and seen by a long way.
Those who want to go..... get saving as it will be worth every penny
Life is too short!
24 August 2010, 05:57 PM
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I think they all are descended more or less from Char. There is another type which I am sure you will have heard about and that is "Brook Trout". That was supposed to be a closer descendant from Char, or so they said. SW Water used to stock Fernworthy Reservoir with Brook Trout. They used to deny it but they had a different appearance from Brown and Rainbow trout. They were actually quite good looking fish and they certainly tasted good too. Unfortunately SWW don't stock them any more.
I am surprised that they have re-classified Rainbows closer to the salmon family. It is interesting that Rainbows which normally dont breed in this country will actually do so in the Wye in the Duke of Devonshire's estate near Bakewell Derbys.
What sort of fly was the demon killer over there then, apart from the orange blob?
Les
I am surprised that they have re-classified Rainbows closer to the salmon family. It is interesting that Rainbows which normally dont breed in this country will actually do so in the Wye in the Duke of Devonshire's estate near Bakewell Derbys.
What sort of fly was the demon killer over there then, apart from the orange blob?
Les
Rainbow are now in the genus Oncorhynchus which is the same as Coho, Sockeye, Pink, King, Chum and Cutthroat Trout.
Brook Trout, Lake Trout, Bull Trout, Artic Char are all forms of char. Char also have seagoing versions called Dolly Varden.
All very complicated!
24 August 2010, 06:00 PM
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That is something i'd love to be able to do as would many I would guess but I haven't got the boll0cks to give up the guaranteed monthly income. Take the risk and reap the rewards and it certainly looks like you are. Out of interest is it financial services you are in?
So I consult to the consultants! Now how about that for getting as far as possible from actually making something!
24 August 2010, 07:57 PM
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Very cool pictures there trout.
We have a client that goes off on these Salmon fishing trips to Russia. It's not my thing but he's quite obsessive about it.
Trains are my thing
We have a client that goes off on these Salmon fishing trips to Russia. It's not my thing but he's quite obsessive about it.
Trains are my thing
24 August 2010, 08:10 PM
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The salmon fishing in Russia is amazing. The main downside is that you fly around to the fishing everyday in old, Sikorsky helicopters full of bullet holes with vodka saturated pilots - even at breakfast time!
24 August 2010, 09:58 PM
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very nice and even better when it includes fishing trips to Canada! How big are the Rainbows over there? I've only caught tiddler Rainbows over here float fishing although still big enough to eat and prepared myself.
24 August 2010, 10:54 PM
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The rainbows in BC are a reasonable size. If you want BIG rainbows then you need to fish in Alaska.
When the sockeye salmon are spawning in their thousands, massive rainbows, char and grayling gather below them to hoover up all the loose eggs and bits of flesh that break off as the salmon deteriorate rapidly during and after spawning.
Fishing with an egg fly or flesh fly you can catch rainbows and lake trout up to 20lbs!!!
When the sockeye salmon are spawning in their thousands, massive rainbows, char and grayling gather below them to hoover up all the loose eggs and bits of flesh that break off as the salmon deteriorate rapidly during and after spawning.
Fishing with an egg fly or flesh fly you can catch rainbows and lake trout up to 20lbs!!!
25 August 2010, 02:31 PM
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You are right about Brook Trout - another member of the char family.
Rainbow are now in the genus Oncorhynchus which is the same as Coho, Sockeye, Pink, King, Chum and Cutthroat Trout.
Brook Trout, Lake Trout, Bull Trout, Artic Char are all forms of char. Char also have seagoing versions called Dolly Varden.
All very complicated!
Rainbow are now in the genus Oncorhynchus which is the same as Coho, Sockeye, Pink, King, Chum and Cutthroat Trout.
Brook Trout, Lake Trout, Bull Trout, Artic Char are all forms of char. Char also have seagoing versions called Dolly Varden.
All very complicated!
So it was the orange blob fly then.
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25 August 2010, 05:59 PM
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The steelheads were mostly caught on a Pink Teeny (the only fishing fly with a patent - designed by THE Pacific Salmon expert Jim Teeny).
As the rivers are SO rocky the locals don't use a tied fly as such, just a very strong hook with a 2inch tuft of very soft fluorescent pink wool. The local knitting shops even sell it as Steelhead Pink. And very effective it is too!
As the rivers are SO rocky the locals don't use a tied fly as such, just a very strong hook with a 2inch tuft of very soft fluorescent pink wool. The local knitting shops even sell it as Steelhead Pink. And very effective it is too!
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[quote=Trout;9562142]I went to Canadia to annoy the local Steelhead Trout!!
Before you started your own company was you the lead singer in the band Bad Manners?
Before you started your own company was you the lead singer in the band Bad Manners?
27 August 2010, 03:36 PM
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The steelheads were mostly caught on a Pink Teeny (the only fishing fly with a patent - designed by THE Pacific Salmon expert Jim Teeny).
As the rivers are SO rocky the locals don't use a tied fly as such, just a very strong hook with a 2inch tuft of very soft fluorescent pink wool. The local knitting shops even sell it as Steelhead Pink. And very effective it is too!
As the rivers are SO rocky the locals don't use a tied fly as such, just a very strong hook with a 2inch tuft of very soft fluorescent pink wool. The local knitting shops even sell it as Steelhead Pink. And very effective it is too!
Maybe I ought to try a pink fly on the sea trout then.
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27 August 2010, 05:40 PM
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The pink we were using was the colour of a Staedler Pink Flouro Marker of the type you get in WH Smiths.
The materials came from Veniards but they were special order by Angling Direct.
I will try and get a photo up of a Pink Teeny.
And yes, I think they would work on Sea Trout as it was a killer colour for all the salmon we caught.
The materials came from Veniards but they were special order by Angling Direct.
I will try and get a photo up of a Pink Teeny.
And yes, I think they would work on Sea Trout as it was a killer colour for all the salmon we caught.
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The pink we were using was the colour of a Staedler Pink Flouro Marker of the type you get in WH Smiths.
The materials came from Veniards but they were special order by Angling Direct.
I will try and get a photo up of a Pink Teeny.
And yes, I think they would work on Sea Trout as it was a killer colour for all the salmon we caught.
The materials came from Veniards but they were special order by Angling Direct.
I will try and get a photo up of a Pink Teeny.
And yes, I think they would work on Sea Trout as it was a killer colour for all the salmon we caught.
Les
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