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Old May 11, 2010 | 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by chris270181
So what have we concluded? Once rolling the vxr is likely to be quicker than a scoob, top end speed the vxr will do more?
from a standing start the scoob will leave it for dead up to whatever speed? On the twists the vxr falls short again? So....... What happens from a standing start on the twists? the scoob wins.. Maybe subaru should release a sti vxr. Instead of the cosworth sti?
How often do you stop in the middle of the road to see who can then pull away quickest.
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Old May 11, 2010 | 08:37 PM
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Some level headed people on here i see, which is refreshing. Anyway i'm off for a drive, may look for some veyron's to beat
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Old May 11, 2010 | 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Voxer
How often do you stop in the middle of the road to see who can then pull away quickest.
As often as i race other cars

Although if this is your thing then there are always traffic lights
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Old May 11, 2010 | 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Voxer
How often do you stop in the middle of the road to see who can then pull away quickest.
Quiet often, normally to wait for the trailing vxr or to find out whats broke this time
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Old May 11, 2010 | 08:52 PM
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As an adult I would't drive like a **** against another car on the road, BUT how on earth can a VXR beating a bug-eye ( eight years old ) be a "win" ?

Sorry, but whilst liking the VXR, it's a young 'uns car.
I'm quite happy with ( so far ! ) un-broken traction, and 400 bhp/500+ Nm.

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P.S. If anyone near Leeds wants to scare me rigid, bring yer VXR down !
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Old May 11, 2010 | 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by chris270181
Quiet often, normally to wait for the trailing vxr or to find out whats broke this time
I don't trail, although with 400lbs of torque I'm open to towing offers.

If you guys want to see 170 I'm your best bet.
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Old May 11, 2010 | 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Voxer
I don't trail, although with 400lbs of torque I'm open to towing offers.

If you guys want to see 170 I'm your best bet.
Bet you are 5' 10" , pretty fit and go to the gym.....
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Old May 11, 2010 | 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by RFC1
Bet you are 5' 10" , pretty fit and go to the gym.....
Nope, 5' 9", used to go to the gym, then got married with children and the stress made me think F**k that I'm having a burger.


Banter is all this argument can over be m8 as VXR's and Scoobs are for different markets.

The VXR is very fast in a straight line and potent in the twisties

The scoob is fairly fast in a straikght line and brutal in the twisties.

They both do one job extremely well and the other is a compromise, neither is better than the other.
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Old May 11, 2010 | 09:26 PM
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thats why God invented the large displacement 3 series
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Old May 11, 2010 | 09:28 PM
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Can't be arsed to read all 6 pages ... the OP must be a fecking useless driver & should sell the STi NOW!

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Old May 11, 2010 | 09:35 PM
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A classic Impreza is 1200kg which must be way less than a lardy VXR. Standard STi will be about 230hp per ton which must thrash a VXR

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Edit - 170hp per ton (apols if mentioned before!):

http://www.performance-car-guide.co.uk/astra-vxr.html

Originally Posted by kully
As mentioned already , with the weight it will have a better power to weight ratio , the VXR will probably have a remap and you're 10 yr old will have lost a bit of power .

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Old May 11, 2010 | 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Voxer
I don't trail, although with 400lbs of torque I'm open to towing offers.
Me too !



And on the other end....

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No twisties, just a moorland jump/dip/lump creavasse....



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Old May 11, 2010 | 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by dunx
Me too !



And on the other end....



No twisties, just a moorland jump/dip/lump creavasse....



dunx
Lol those 2.5's just aren't as good as the 2.0's.

or did I just open a can of wigglies.

good pics m8.
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Old May 11, 2010 | 09:49 PM
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It's a sport.....

Soft suspension caught it out, and I nearly T-boned him as he spun.....

Glad I did the brakes first !

LOL

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Old May 11, 2010 | 09:51 PM
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I already knew both were really good cars, what I have so far learnt from these threads, is both also have their fair share of total tools driving them..............as well as some good guys from both sides!! Sadly the total tools let us all down...............
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Old May 11, 2010 | 09:53 PM
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FWD cars didn't fare too well at the 30-130 day which was a rolling start too!

http://www.lancerregister.com/mlrspr...0100314&last=5

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Old May 11, 2010 | 09:58 PM
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to be fair they didnt have eleventy million bhp either
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Old May 11, 2010 | 10:02 PM
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Where is that vid of the scoob towing a truck?

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Old May 11, 2010 | 10:38 PM
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isn't 50-70 times in 5th a good indicator of 'once rolling'? and are usually pretty accurate as there is no launch to perfect, just mash and go?

kudos to the the vectra vxr though, just about the same as the lotus carlton from 50-70 in fifth. The standard Wrx is 10s, i won't print the sti as it will be not 'real world' and be obviously wrong.

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Old May 11, 2010 | 10:39 PM
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ther lotus carlton was 7.6s 50-70 in fifth?
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Old May 11, 2010 | 10:40 PM
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i have never been in a vxr but i can understand why there quicker then an old scoob, theres a lot of progression on cars since the classic imppreza's were first designed and made. don't get me wrong i love my scoob but a standard classic will struggle against a golf gti or a vxr. btw i don't drive like a pansie and can get a shift on, on track of course and still struggle against the new hot hatches due to the fact of transmission loss and big lag when starting.

i'll still have anything in the twisties though.
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Old May 11, 2010 | 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by gallois
isn't 50-70 times in 5th a good indicator of 'once rolling'? and are usually pretty accurate as there is no launch to perfect, just mash and go?

kudos to the the vectra vxr though, just about the same as the lotus carlton from 50-70 in fifth. The standard Wrx is 10s, i won't print the sti as it will be not 'real world' and be obviously wrong.
Not being funny mate, but who would do a rolling start drag race from 50mph in 5th gear?
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Old May 11, 2010 | 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted by badman1972
Not being funny mate, but who would do a rolling start drag race from 50mph in 5th gear?
i'm not being funny either mate, but it's the actual times that are the point, not the sporting event.
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Old May 11, 2010 | 11:00 PM
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my dads harder than your dad....... im glad this thread is up, having only just moved from an astra vxr to an sti. the astra is now with my brother and as this seems to be a touchy subject about vauxhalls being rather good cars nowadays, we are planning on doing some 'real world testing' when we get off work for the summer. il get the results up and hopfully raise one or two eyebrows.
we all love our cars and slagging each other is just stupid. if you wanna slag each other join youtube and join the internet hard men and let the rest of us crack on.
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Old May 11, 2010 | 11:03 PM
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..........but surely when people are saying VXR is quicker from a rolling start, they mean in the best and quickest possible gear from that speed................starting from a set-speed in a set gear would depend too much on gear ratio's etc.. and not be truly reflective of genuine rolling speed acceleration.

Accepted that the figures are impressive all-the-same........
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Old May 11, 2010 | 11:05 PM
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Originally Posted by dan69royal
my dads harder than your dad....... im glad this thread is up, having only just moved from an astra vxr to an sti. the astra is now with my brother and as this seems to be a touchy subject about vauxhalls being rather good cars nowadays, we are planning on doing some 'real world testing' when we get off work for the summer. il get the results up and hopfully raise one or two eyebrows.
we all love our cars and slagging each other is just stupid. if you wanna slag each other join youtube and join the internet hard men and let the rest of us crack on.
PMSL couldn't agree more mate......I have never posted on YouTube for fear of the keyboard gangsters that lurk there LOL
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Old May 11, 2010 | 11:11 PM
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So what we've concluded is, if we race to the Impreza's strengths then it will win and if we race to the VXR's strengths then that will win

glad we've got that sorted out now
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Old May 11, 2010 | 11:23 PM
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There are quite a few different model scoobys , so which are you guys saying that a vxr is better than or faster than etc
Figures interest me so any concrete timings of the cars mentioned
Thanks mick
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Old May 11, 2010 | 11:24 PM
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it'd be a fun having a meet with the two clubs, i've never been in a VXR, would love a ride, espesially in a tuned one. Anyone have one in Beds?
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Old May 11, 2010 | 11:37 PM
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Originally Posted by STI Mav
Lol - the good old Subaru come back

The ST's and RS's are better than most of the VXR's etc but they still aern't going to keep pace with 4WD perfomance - used to love driving the STI hard through the twisties.
i think the dc5 type r is even better through the bends
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