but you have tried for 4th and hit 2nd instead, that will result in piston exit stage left or right, or possibly both, or gearbox spitting out teeth lol

 

Voxer - can you & some of your VXR friends come along to next years 30-130 day? I'd genuinely (sp?) like to see you there re how a powerful FWD car gets along against the same albeit 4WD. It's a rolling start so there can be no excuses

TX.

 

haha! fortunately not tried tht. don't fancy some big boxer piston prints in my wings or g box gears tht decide they dont like thier teeth my mate in his ek9 type r did however go for 5th n hit 3rd at 9,000 rpm. lets just say his g box never forgave him

 

lol, saw the results of one, nto pretty at all, killed whole of the engine even the block arrive in various pieces.

 

tht sounds like a nice mess somehow the engine in the civic was in one piece. but the internals of the g box were in millions of tiny ones those v tec engines are hell of a strong wen serviced properly though

 

hehe tbh i dont think many engine will take that without going bang

 

Would there be any point of a 330bhp\410lbs Vec going up against a 500-600 and 700bhp modded monsters.

It would only serve a purpose if against similarly powered cars.

 

^^ They're not all like that. Mine isn't 600hp + there were some Golfs & Escorts there this year. Sounds to me like you're chicken

TX.

 

HAHAHAHAHAHAH I CANT BELIVE THIS THREAD IS STILL GOING STORNG!!....them vxr lads must b having a right giggle!!

 

If you knew my past you wouldn't be saying that.

I don't mind going up against similarly powered cars on a 30-130 day, it would be a great day, especailly watching some of those monsters, the issue is distance, the last one was near 500miles away from me with it being a 1000 mile round trip.

Unfortunately Scottie land doesn't have as many fun places for this type of thing as Engerland does.

if there's one that's not going to kill me on fuel then defo.

 

Where abouts in Scotland are you bud?

This thread has certainly got me thinking though if nothing else......

been looking for a kinda descent, big friendly cruiser for when the kids arrive in the very near future..... Vectra VXR might just be the best option!

 

If budget allows I'd go for the newer Insignia VXR. Then again on that sort of budget you could easily get yourself a second hand M5.

 

I'm in Ayrshire m8, down by Burns country.

 

No, toys at all, not even elecy windows, central locking, airbags, abs etc, but thats why it's only 1100kg!!
Voxer, what 1/4 mile times did your mates car get against the RS?
I know where you're coming from Tony, the brakes were very poor as standard,(a bit improved with 4 pots and decent discs/pads, but still not the best), and a few arb's, lock kits, braces' etc has transformed the car.
I also blew the engine at xmas , but Api came to the rescue with a forged rebuild.
Not killed the box (yet), but did 2 on the UK 2.5 classic i had. There's a lot more to tuning an early impreza than a remap, but the weight saving makes up for it.

 

If you can't make it then get some mates along. I'd like to see how the VXRs go. Was a great laugh this year, mix of standard cars mildly tuned ones + big power monsters. Great day out.

TX.

 

I believe on the day he pulled a 14.2 but suffered from lots of spin and missed 3rd gear.

The vec will never be a 1/4 mile king for the same reason the Focus will get beaten. There just too heavy for good launches.

 

Good morning Voxer

Heres a few facts to help with the debate. Heres my old Vectra VXR with a £500 remap (nothing else)



Thats 300 bhp and 394 lb/ft

and now, for some in gear acceleration results taken from dynolicious



0-10 mph 1.02 seconds
0-20 mph 1.89 seconds
0-30 mph 2.72 seconds
0-40 mph 3.89 seconds
0-50 mph 5.01 seconds
0-60 mph 6.14 seconds
0-70 mph 7.67 seconds

30-70 time is 4.95 seconds

and by comparison

Standard UK Turbo is 6.6 seconds

http://www.autocar.co.uk/CarReviews/...o-4WD-/200077/

Focus RS is 5.8 seconds

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/front_w....php?id=238456

Evo X FQ330 SST is 4.6 seconds

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/front_w....php?id=238456

and a Standard Impreza STI330s ???

5.1 seconds

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/front_w....php?id=238456

Now dont get me wrong, im not going to claim that dynolicious is 100 % accurate, but the 1/4 mile time in that run was 14.5 seconds ... which remapped VXRs can hit all day long.

So its going to be accurate to within one or two tenths of a second. If not faster, a remapped Vec VXR is going to keep pace with a PPP 2.5 STI once rolling from 30mph.

 

or you could have chosen the standard P1.... 4.3 seconds to 60 IIRC!!! Or is it 4.6? Cant remember.

AND it is 10 years old.

 

Why are we comparing standard cars to a modified vec? like for like please!

Banny

 

the STI330S is essentially an STI UK with the PPP package of uprated fuel pump / remap and exhaust no ?

 

Standard factory generic map, we are talking aftermarket remaps specific to the car

Banny

 

road tests are too old, ive searched all the usual suspects (evo, autoexress, autocar etc..) and none of them have digital versions of the P1 road test as its too old and i suspect no digital media remains.

Only way would be if some fan site somewhere has a scan of the magazine, but i cant find any.

its alright, when you cant shake one off your tail in the real world, you can re-assure yourself its only because its a remap

Point being - this isnt a "who's is best" competition -this is about what happens when you go up against cars in the real world, and find yourself surprised when it keeps up.

 

Nothing has suprised me so far and plenty have tried up and down the mad mile

Banny

 

As for the original comparison (between the astra and the type R)

Standard Astra VXR with 240bhp

http://www.autocar.co.uk/CarReviews/....0-VXR/216726/

30-70mph in 5.7 seconds

anybody got a time for classic type R ?

 

Like for like then

a £600 ecutek remap on a 330s gives 380bhp

As Banny said.. there is a HUGE difference between a Prodrive map and an ecutek map...

 

We seem to have lost our way on this thread the original post was an Astra VXR vs a standard classic STi Typer R the OP is obviously gay beyond belief to get beat ...

"hello people...i was up against a vxr last night and was shocked how he completley bumed me!!! cant not belive the proformance of them things!!...is this usual for a vxr to eat a standard sti type r or has he got a few secrets under the bonnet???"

TX.

 

Yes, and it was decided it wasn't standard.
Gay beyond belief? To get beat by a more powerful car? Why?

 

^^ It seems to have moved on to the Vectra VXR is all

TX.

PS

Standard Type R is 276hp & 1200kg = 230hp per ton.
Standard Astra VXR is 237hp & 1400kg = 170hp per ton. Even a 300hp one is "only" 214hp per ton
Once you start modding the scoob (apples vs apples) the diff is night & day.

 

Im sorry WTF are you lot going on about?

A Subaru is a Subaru and a Vauxhall is a Vauxhall.

Got beat by a Vauxhall.......my advise..........learn how to drive your Subaru !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Rant over !

 

finally got a shot in a veccy vxr standard my08(sadly no map) still, pulled pretty well and sat so low in the revs on the motorway (so used to my 5000rpm at 100mph). guys gettin it mapped soon, so i'll be able to get a proper wee run with the 2, i'm gonna get beat so bad on the motorway from rollin when it's mapped, fun times