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Old 28 August 2018, 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by ThePredator
is it possible/safe to setup 8k revs or higher on forged 2.5l ?
how do they setup jdm 2.5l - lichfield ones
A mapper can change the rev limit in the ECU easy enough and in theory a forged 2.5 could rev past 8k rpm, but you'd have to ask why? With the larger 2.5 engines the torque and peak power is made lower down the rev range. By the time you reach 8k you really ought to be in the next gear using the torque band.
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Looks like the USA & Canada customers getting some money back.
https://www.carcomplaints.com/news/2...-lawsuit.shtml
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By the time you are at 8200 8400 rpm then the torque is not there any more , best torque around 6000 or so plus a bit rpm , my jdm sti reved to silly high revs but felt you were loosing the power as out of the torque band and better off changing gear earlier
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Originally Posted by ThePredator
well porsche use bigger engines and revs 9k , audi over 8k etc
i like how jdm sti revs and scream
Porsche and Audi design their engines for high RPMs. The JDM cars have Twinscroll turbo's but smaller capacity so require the rev spread.
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Will this still affect cars imported from Japan, I might go and look at a 2011 STI A line???
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Originally Posted by Imotepify
Will this still affect cars imported from Japan, I might go and look at a 2011 STI A line???
https://www.gtnet.co.jp/car_info/imp...n/index_en.php

As it comes with the 2.5L engine it will have the same problems.
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Default Off side Head gasket failure at 117k miles


Another blown head gasket. 117k miles on V-power though so did well. You can still see the honing on the bored and no sign of piston crown failure.
Old 07 January 2019, 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by terzoscooby

Another blown head gasket. 117k miles on V-power though so did well. You can still see the honing on the bored and no sign of piston crown failure.
not bad going in all reality, whats the plans now?
Old 07 January 2019, 11:36 PM
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Given the good condition of it I am getting the heads checked and I am going to do a magnified inspection of the pistons. If all is good I am inclined to put it back together.

Am I mad not dropping forged pistons in just didn’t want to touch bottom end as it ran like a sewing machine.
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Personally with that mileage in mind I'd want a rebore, hone and some oversized forged pistons fir peace of mind.
Old 07 January 2019, 11:50 PM
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Originally Posted by terzoscooby
Given the good condition of it I am getting the heads checked and I am going to do a magnified inspection of the pistons. If all is good I am inclined to put it back together.

Am I mad not dropping forged pistons in just didn’t want to touch bottom end as it ran like a sewing machine.
whilst its apart in my opinion you would be mad not to refresh everything, imagine how you would feel paying for it to be bolted back together for it to fail again. false economy in my opinion.

if you plan on keeping the car then do a complete rebuild from scratch and get everything checked as its not just the pistons that can fail on the 2.5 its the actual block aswell.
Old 07 January 2019, 11:56 PM
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definitely do pistons , the bottom end may seem fine , but you won’t know with out stripping it , in both of my fsti when hg went one bottom end went with in a year as i did not get it done , so turned into twice the price , on the other fsti i said strip bottom end , bottom end sounded fine , it was not , crank shaft was polished but bearings had gone i think it was number 3 , it’s false economy not doing it all
Old 08 January 2019, 12:42 PM
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I hear the comments and it all makes sense but so far I haven’t found any signs of wear. Even the cam tips are exceptionally perfect. V-power and fully synthetic race oil from run in has so far done the job.
Old 08 January 2019, 01:50 PM
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you won’t till you strip it , the failure rate of the 2.5 bottom end after hg failure is around 75 per cent , the 2 litre is much less prone , as above i had two go , even the engine builder said it sounded ok , it was only found when it was stripped , otherwise you could be on a bit of a ticking failure , the cost if the bottom end goes will be the hg cost plus bottom end , so surely best done in one whole job as it’s cheaper in the long run , your choice
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Can only concur with above. Total false economy not doing the bottom end if it's already out. Unless you're about to sell it, of course. If you are just going to replace the gasket, FFS put studs in at the very least!
Old 19 January 2019, 08:48 PM
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New head bolts and gaskets going in and heads skimmed. We will see how long it lasts.

Unless it destroys the block I am still better off.
Old 25 January 2019, 10:10 PM
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i would definitely do forge pistons and head studs.
Also seen a few pipe up pipes cracked/split at bracket weld.So change that.Tony
Old 02 April 2019, 01:20 PM
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Subaru of America to give customers of 2012-2017 models extended warranties and refunds for engine repairs 😳
https://www.torquenews.com/1084/suba...mpression=true
Old 04 April 2019, 06:49 PM
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Is this US only? I wouldnt mind an extended 8yr warranty FOC

Who is eligible?
Anyone who leased or purchased a 2012-2017 Subaru Impreza WRX or WRX STI

Old 04 April 2019, 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Gary Tractor boy
Subaru of America to give customers of 2012-2017 models extended warranties and refunds for engine repairs 😳
https://www.torquenews.com/1084/suba...mpression=true
cos they were having the living crap sued out of them.
Old 08 April 2019, 07:06 AM
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Originally Posted by terzoscooby

Another blown head gasket. 117k miles on V-power though so did well. You can still see the honing on the bored and no sign of piston crown failure.

117k miles!!! I've never owned a car with that many miles on it lol what year is the car??

so well done
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One of of the first MY11 cars so late 2010.
All back together now and another 2000 miles in the clock.
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Originally Posted by terzoscooby
One of of the first MY11 cars so late 2010.
All back together now and another 2000 miles in the clock.
unless you've owned a car from new, or almost new, you'd be thinking at the back of your mind hows it been treated and looked after.

117k miles is good going, as its above average mileage.

but all will be good now
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Guys,

Not wanting to start a seperate tread, hence asking here. Recently bought a completely standards 2008 uk hatch sti, obviously I'm aware of the gasket and ringland issues. The car has been looked after Subaru main dealer throughout its lifetime and looks like it's been looked after and driven sensibly, I'm watching the coolant and oil like a hawk and there aren't any bad signs.

Car is on 80k miles - is it worth going in before it goes bang or would you say that since it's made it to this mileage that it might be ok? Any cost benefit in going in early or shall I just wait and budget for when or if?
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I got it priced up , the summary from the engine builder was wait for it to go , at 80k you will need a rebore and valves doing plus heads, plus crank bearings , if you have money to burn then go for it , i even had a used engine forged a while ago with 80 k miles on it , and it’s not worth doing a half job on that it’s either the full lot or nothing , if a 2.5 does ever have just hg issue always do the bottom end too
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Originally Posted by terzoscooby

Another blown head gasket. 117k miles on V-power though so did well. You can still see the honing on the bored and no sign of piston crown failure.

only just seen this, jebus,it was detting its **** off
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Originally Posted by Tidgy
only just seen this, jebus,it was detting its **** off
Tidgy,
Curious, what are the visible signs of detting in the pic? I wouldn't know what to look for!
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Originally Posted by vulnax999
Tidgy,
Curious, what are the visible signs of detting in the pic? I wouldn't know what to look for!
The over-cooked pistons
Old 24 September 2019, 08:56 PM
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While not the same piston, if you look at the pic here,



see how smooth the machining is around the lip?

on the pic's from the engine above you can see how nibbled the edges are, thast caused by det.
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Originally Posted by SimonCZ
Guys,

Not wanting to start a seperate tread, hence asking here. Recently bought a completely standards 2008 uk hatch sti, obviously I'm aware of the gasket and ringland issues. The car has been looked after Subaru main dealer throughout its lifetime and looks like it's been looked after and driven sensibly, I'm watching the coolant and oil like a hawk and there aren't any bad signs.

Car is on 80k miles - is it worth going in before it goes bang or would you say that since it's made it to this mileage that it might be ok? Any cost benefit in going in early or shall I just wait and budget for when or if?
My 2008 STI hatch had hg failure at ~92,000 miles. I replaced the gaskets and fitted studs. That was about 3 months ago. I should have read this thread first. Now think my pistons need replacing.
It's difficult to say how things will fail but in my case it's very undramatic. Apart from high oil consumption, my car's running well, touch wood.

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