Galeforce9

Hi All,

Just a quick update after battleing with Subaru till now. They are now saying they MIGHT do this as good will! they are now OK with service history and that the ECU has not been touched. I'd asked that everything be checked that could be before a strip down. All being well it will be back in for a stirp down at the end of next week and I'll keep everyone informed on the outcome.

If for any reason they will not do the rebuild as good will (warrenty in my opinion) then they will not be doing the rebuild & I'll do as recommended. I still beleive it fits perfectly with a "not fit for purpose" case as other makes dont die after <20K miles. When I do speak with the Imgroup they still say there are no issues!

Lets see what happens as the cars now start failing with expired warrenty!

Thanks for all the comments.

Ian

Ali-T

Long time without posting but I eventually bought a 330S back in April 2009. While it's not failed yet, it seems to be on it's way out now. On Sunday, coming back from work, I noticed a distinct burning smell which then disappeared after 5 minutes, but left me with a car with around 100bhp fewer bhp than it had before! The 2.5-3k hesitation is present on part throttle as well. Went into a certain Lothian dealers yesterday and I got it back with the classic "we couldn't find anything wrong with it". However, this morning, I'm also getting blue smoke on start up, so they have accomplished something....I expect the engine's life is coming to an end but am rather hoping they actually do something about it before it leaves me stranded somewhere!


Date bought:01/04/2009
Mileage: 12
Date of failure:First signs: 28/08/2011
Mileage: 21,400
Outcome: In progress!

P1Fanatic

Any known failures of 2011 STI's? I kid myself that IM maybe secretly sorted something out with the mapping of the new car especially with the 320r version.

Tone Loc

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Without reading through all the thread again, has anybody done a comparison of how many UK cars have failed compared to euro imports. The mapping etc should be the same but it seems mostly UK cars that have failed, has it not???

Littleted

No 2011 yet so I see, USA have a lot but they seem to have the Cobb port and mod them alot not many USA come out from showroom without some tinkering

Australians don't have any either

I'm on 12k now and still sweet as a nut

Neils wrx

Just found this thread, and am now a bit worried as I've traded my Bugeye WRX for a 08 STI.
Anybody recommend a good warrenty company? Car is coming from a non Subaru Dealers. Car has 36k on the clock and I wonder if I have just brought myself a problem...

Alan Jeffery

Most warranty companies wouldn't do much for you in the event of a failure, although you could say every little helps! I'm told the AA offer a pretty good deal, and are more likely to pay up than some.
The issue is the weakness of the piston ring lands. A breakage would be classed as a failure in the insurance sense, so you would at least have a decent claim.
By no means all of them have problems, and I'd say these are great cars. Put some money aside just in case, then relax and enjoy it!.

Don Clark

The original "map" problem was sorted.

The MY11 cars only got the free 320R upgrade as a "buyer incentive" and "was" originally for a limited period only..........
http://subaru.co.uk/news/more-power-...for-iconic-sti

Littleted

check its history Neil and dont go mad with the Mods without proper care, if your gonna do any get the rings done and pistons first before changing and mapping
Im on 12k now on the new 2011 and its fine, i also did 14k in a wrx-s and all was fine, but i do drive errrr Normally with the odd bez now and again, No track days no launches etc,

Neils wrx

Thanks, my fingers are crossed... I have used the AA before, and they paid out for a HGF on my MGF.
The dealer are offering an extended Warrenty for up to 2 years so I'll be reading it's small print....

rob84

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All I will say is if they offer you a warranty from autoprotect which I'm sure they will, its not worth the paper its written on you may as well use it to wipe your **** with. (They pay for F**K ALL) Put the £300 or whatever they charge these days in a pot like alan jeffery suggested and build on it lol

ScottishRayman

[quote=Littleted;10251300], if your gonna do any get the rings done and pistons quote]

What would the cost of this be?

Littleted

not too sure sorry not done mine but some have here so youll get the answer soon

Ted1

Hi all.

First post on this forum so look after me folks!

Now having a mid life crisis and after selling my new discovery 4 and swapping for a Bipper van (change of circumstances) have got urge to buy my first Sccob after years of fancying one.

Really fancy a 10 plate sti wrx with black pro-drive wheels and upgraded pro-drive back box all ready to go (2 years warrenty left)

Anyway, after reading this little lot i spoke to the dealer who knew all about these issues (very clued up)but has assured me the car has has the re-maps and works and there will be no issues, guarenteed

Sort of set my heart on one of these after owning alsorts of hot hatches over the years, insurance sorted etc.

Any thoughts or input would be much appreciated

MM.

Littleted

Ted this Little Number wouldnt happen to be red would it ? and the person youd spoke to would happen to be Ayub or Chris ?

Ted1

Yes, spot on little Ted.

MM

Littleted

hehe its where i got mine from good lads, i was actually there friday for 3 hours and noticed the red 1 sat alone at the side looked very nice with them wheels on, good price i thought too, I bet you can screw him down a bit too.

Chris can do very good finance he bet everybody i rang that was across 6 garages 1 thing i will say is this unless your buying it outright or with a loan, get chris to work out a new one, becuase the deals that can be done VS a used normally work out very cheap. And dont forget they can also Obtain Saloon and the new hatch Spec cs from the UK pots so for an extar few K you could have a near new-un

do i sound like a salesmen.

If you speak to em again tell em youve spoke to Rob with the Plasma Blue Saloon :P

Ted1

Thanks for that little ted, need to have a think.

What about the dodgey engines though?

MM

Littleted

well none at all on the new model have gone yet, and nothing i dont think changed really.
It was mainly the 08/09 that was the problem and mapped ones, if the red one is standard and hasnt been tinkered with at all, then i really dont see any issues, im on 12000 miles now and its a sweet as the day i got it, doesnt use a drop of oil at all which i find weird, in fact in all the cars ive had it seem better on oil.

If your really worried then either go for the 2011 Model but a used one or new, or ask Brian in service at MKAR to run a compression test for you, and give you the read out as part of the deal maker.

But i think youll be safe, or do you plan to mod its nutts off

Littleted

here is a great explenation and maybe one of the modders/ machanics can answer

" So is the general consensus that these are the two issues causing ringland failure?

"STIs have a proven overheating problem when driven hard-especially the '08+ cars, which are equipped with radiators half as thick as in previous years. For emissions' sake, they also run a factory-preset closed-loop 14.7:1 air/fuel tune until 4,000 rpm, which severely limits timing advance and power output. And then there's the problem of them blowing up. "There are certain steps you should take when building an STI," explains Paul Leung, Yimisport's lead tuner, "First, get an Accessport and have it tuned the day you buy your car. Then buy bolt-ons, a good suspension and lower the car a little, do your alignment, and have fun." But he cautions, "Make sure to upgrade the oil pan, intercooler and radiator, and add an oil cooler before you go racing. And if you upgrade the turbo and injectors, build the block. Replace the pistons at the very least-stock ones don't usually last long." Typically, cylinder four leans out and detonates due to excess back-pressure that builds at its near-90-degree exhaust port, keeping the proper amount of fuel from entering combustion. "A good turbo manifold and some mild porting will take care of this," Leung advises."

Are the exhaust manifolds on the '08+ the same as all other model years? I know the intake manifold is different, as are the heads. . . did the runner lengths change in the intake mani?


Ok ignore accessport thats a yank thing as they have crap fuel, Well not just yank but its what they all seem to do as standard over there, but as for the RAD and BACK pressure comments can anybody comment

does the new 2011 have any differing exhaust setup ? or radiator

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Only 8k more to go then. 20k has been mentioned for the Hawkeye Headgaskets etc that go Although of course this varies. Standard/Non standard makes no difference. It's either serviced and properly looked after or it's not. Not sure there's enough in number or age of the latest ones to conclude they are ok.

Littleted

Both us in the uk and Australia have had none go only USA seem to have an issue but they do buy a lot

What's the deal with the head gasket then what causes them to go ? I don't do much in mine apart from the m1 so fingers crossed been great so far

Much better than my Audi ever was

Ok according to google mynbest friend the gasket on the hawks was a fault and was rectified with a new diff one, as was the legacy and outback issue,

I can't find any 2008+ with any sign of head gaskets errors

Watch someone post one now,

GordonC

Hi Ted,

Apologies for the late reply!

Cheers for that. I run it on 95RON for the first 3 months as again I was not told, but after doing some research it's only ever filled with V-power, just to be on the safe side. I recon for an extra £20 a month fuel bill it's probably worth it given the grief I had with the dealer over the EU import/PPP situation in the first place.

GC

codie247

Does the 2.5 in the hawkeye suffer with failure? Or is it the hatch which suffers?

Lee

rob84

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Has been Known, I've just rebuilt a spec D last week for ringland failure

stu144

Hi All,

Bought a 08 hatch 6 weeks ago, i have been checking the oil every week oil seems to be going down slowly already added 1.5 liters but only been doing small journeys, this week i took my brother down to newcastle from fife for a interview so car had a good run topped up the oil before i left and when i checked the oil when i got back it had used about 0.5 liters. such high oil comsumption doesnt sound right to me i heard high consumption is a sign an engine failure might be soon!!, car is still under warranty where i bought it but just wanted some advise before i phone them tomorrow

bushiwarrior

the 2.5's can use oil and my08 sti does. Since the last service at the start of the year its used around 2 litres

rob84

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Subaru will state, 1000 miles per 1ltr of oil is the acceptable limits of the EJ257

Littleted

its really weird beacuse ive done just over 12500 and i dont seem to have done much oil in my new Saloon, not as much as 1lt anyway, i am doing alot of motorway Miles

I,ll check this week if its gone down since service

IggyRB320

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The 2.5 in my daily run RB320, which i've owned from new & is on 40k miles doesn't & never has used a drop!
I do change the oil & filter every 6 months.

Hope I haven't tempted fate.....

Although I am aware if a couple of RB's suffering HG failures, so I guess it's only a matter of time! Although I think this was only after being re-mapped.