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Old Mar 9, 2018 | 08:59 AM
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Sadly, I would probably agree.

But that said too every single marque has their issues and potential failures. The Ford Focus RS engines blow up regularly and have very known issues, Evos have their issues, etc etc.

I've owned powerful RX7's, RX8, Pulsars and loads more all with well known ticking time bomb issues. That's always the problem with owning a powerful car, you're always chasing the weak spots and weakest components in a tuned system.

If you worried too much about these things you'd have a 1L corsa and never have any fun in life!!!!

If you don't have the cash to maintain a car like this then maybe it's not the right car for you at this time of life. I don't own a car I can't afford to do these jobs on, it's part of the ownership in my opinion.


For accuracy, this thread title really needs to be changed to: 2006 - 2018 2.5ltr Engine Failures





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Old Mar 16, 2018 | 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Sarg400
I know a guy his 330s on 90k took advice on here and got a remap wasn't long after it went bang
Bit stupid to remap a car that had 90K on it
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Old Mar 16, 2018 | 09:57 AM
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Bit stupid to remap a car that had 90K on it
not really, i know plenty of cars that have been mapped with that or high milage and not had problems.

Not saying it couldn't have contributed, especially given how hard some mappers push engines, but a custom map even at a later stage don;t right should help the engine anyway.
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Old Mar 16, 2018 | 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by BrownPantsRacing

For accuracy, this thread title really needs to be changed to: 2006 - 2018 2.5ltr Engine Failures
Is there any 2014-18 cars that have had their engines let go and were completely standard?

They guy on here had his engine go but that had a CAI. There's been one on Ebay for months and months with a blown engine but it's been up so long and it's a 2014 car so it should have still been in warranty so what had been done to the car for Subaru not to honour the warranty?

I have a 2017 on 8K. If mine goes then I'll ask for the ketchup as I eat my hat but to be fair I barely hammer mine. Spends most of it's time in "I" and on the motorway I tend to play the MPG game. So mine doesn't really have a hard time. If mine goes then yeah, either unlucky or they genuinely are sh1te. Fortunately, they aren't crippling money wise to repair. I've been quite close recently to junk mine for a B8 RS4 but without a third party warranty the repair bills are like house deposit size!

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Old Mar 16, 2018 | 05:36 PM
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Subaru already confirmed there are no issues at all with the 2.5 engine!


https://www.honestjohn.co.uk/news/le...litre-engines/


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Old Mar 16, 2018 | 09:21 PM
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"My low miles STI blew up"

Subaru- "you probably over reved it"

"I maybe did once or twice, it is a performance car"

subaru- "bye"
............................
"My low miles STI blew up"

Subaru- "you probably put 95ron in it"

"I maybe did as it was all that was available a few times"

subaru- "bye"
. . . . . . . . . . .

"I missed an oil change by a while as my mechanic was booked up. . . . .

"bye"

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Old Mar 16, 2018 | 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by EddScott
Is there any 2014-18 cars that have had their engines let go and were completely standard?

They guy on here had his engine go but that had a CAI. There's been one on Ebay for months and months with a blown engine but it's been up so long and it's a 2014 car so it should have still been in warranty so what had been done to the car for Subaru not to honour the warranty?

I have a 2017 on 8K. If mine goes then I'll ask for the ketchup as I eat my hat but to be fair I barely hammer mine. Spends most of it's time in "I" and on the motorway I tend to play the MPG game. So mine doesn't really have a hard time. If mine goes then yeah, either unlucky or they genuinely are sh1te. Fortunately, they aren't crippling money wise to repair. I've been quite close recently to junk mine for a B8 RS4 but without a third party warranty the repair bills are like house deposit size!

Not all the ones clinic have had in have been moded

as mentioned all sort of excuses. subaru UK have no interest and tbh i think they are doing their best to shut subaru down in the UK judging by their actions.
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Old Mar 17, 2018 | 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by BrownPantsRacing
I wouldn't have said an oil separator was essential at all Matty to be honest.


With regards to the Prodrive map, in my opinion it's still a generic "one size fits all" type of ECU plug in map. It's not tailored to your car, your cars sensors, fuel grade, engine etc.


If it were my car and money I'd still get a professional to do a bespoke map.
Any good map will have tolerances unless it's tuned for peak performance and reliability is not taken into account.
A "custom" map is as good as that, "custom" for when the vehicle was mapped for the state of mechanical parts at that time.
If mechanical things start wearing out, boost leaks happen etc. a custom map won't necessarily be any better than e.g. a Prodrive map.
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Old Mar 17, 2018 | 11:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Tidgy
Not all the ones clinic have had in have been moded .
Have they had many 14-17 cars in that have blown?

Mines only had 99 momentum and the shift buzzer is set at 4500 so yeah, if mine blows while under warranty and Subaru UK play silly buggers I will trailer it to their HQ and set fire to it 😊
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Old Mar 18, 2018 | 02:45 AM
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Originally Posted by EddScott
Have they had many 14-17 cars in that have blown?

Mines only had 99 momentum and the shift buzzer is set at 4500 so yeah, if mine blows while under warranty and Subaru UK play silly buggers I will trailer it to their HQ and set fire to it 😊
at least 3, prob more by now. 1 was def moded other 2 were stock as far as im aware, i'll ask next time im up.
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Old Mar 18, 2018 | 09:53 AM
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Subaru’s sell in the uk especially in more rural areas , I don’t think they’re going anywhere as for the sti etc yes that’s well gone the brz or forester Xt are the sportiest Subaru’s now , I agree with tidgy it’s doesnt really matter what mileage your on for a re map , if the cars well maintained ,, I think the thing is here it doesn’t really mater what happens 2.5 is a pane in the **** if you manage to avoid ring land failure and head gasket issues , then your bearings are prob going to be ruined by 120k if your lucky so it’s rebuild time then anyway , with scooby engines although a lot of parts need replacing for a rebuild ,, ie gaskets etc it’s not that hard of a job and is common practise now

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Old Mar 20, 2018 | 06:48 PM
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just adding to this 2004 fsti , head gaskets went at 87,000 just that was done , it’s an ej255 engine not the ej257 , the bearings should have been done but were ok at the time , until a year later and they failed , full rebuild done then head gaskets went again so always use arp bolts , it’s now on 155,000 miles and running well , second fsti 2005 plate hg went , bearings seemed ok but i learnt from my mistake and lucky i did , when it was stripped one bearing was on its way out , full rebuild with bearings and arp bolts and runs like a train , in simple pistons were always fine , but use race bearings better pistons arp bolts and always do a full engine rebuild it’s much cheaper in the long run , still love the cars and look at it as one of those things , plus boost improved on both rebuilds ? they are great sleepers
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Old Mar 26, 2018 | 08:34 PM
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2008 hatch sti low compression 89000miles swallowed 5litres of oil in 2000miles
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Old Apr 12, 2018 | 09:38 PM
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Update engine now stripped wheres the super glue






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Old Apr 12, 2018 | 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by peter zippy reid
Update engine now stripped wheres the super glue






looks fine to me
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Old Apr 17, 2018 | 12:23 PM
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Ouch.
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Old Apr 17, 2018 | 01:07 PM
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Subaru in the US are getting some fire over the pooh.5 for the second time.
It does tend to blow the whole IM Subaru UK argument out.
https://www.honestjohn.co.uk/news/le...litre-engines/

https://www.torquenews.com/1084/suba...ailure-lawsuit

https://www.torquenews.com/1084/suba...ailure-lawsuit

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Old Apr 17, 2018 | 01:36 PM
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My car only got the ecu reflash once i bought it five months ago a bit to late
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Old Apr 17, 2018 | 01:45 PM
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I think at this stage the damage is long gone and done to peoples opinions of the 2.5, that's irreversible now.
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Old Apr 17, 2018 | 01:51 PM
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I bought mine knowing it would most likely need rebuilt
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Old Apr 17, 2018 | 03:12 PM
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Same here. At some point I expect a rebuild.
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Old Apr 17, 2018 | 06:05 PM
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Me too , just didn't think it would be after 11 months of ownership.
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Old Apr 17, 2018 | 06:39 PM
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5 months for me lol
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Old Apr 18, 2018 | 09:19 AM
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11 years for me owning modified (unforged) 2.5L engine Subarus as daily driver/toys with no failures to date.
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Old Apr 20, 2018 | 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by BrownPantsRacing
11 years for me owning modified (unforged) 2.5L engine Subarus as daily driver/toys with no failures to date.
thats the hit and miss side of it showing, lucky for you, not so for others.
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Old Apr 20, 2018 | 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Tidgy
thats the hit and miss side of it showing, lucky for you, not so for others.
lol its hit or miss for anyone running a modified engine.
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Originally Posted by bioforger
lol its hit or miss for anyone running a modified engine.


Yep, completely agree.
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Old Apr 23, 2018 | 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by bioforger
lol its hit or miss for anyone running a modified engine.
but it isnt only modified engines failing.
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Originally Posted by Tidgy
but it isnt only modified engines failing.
Ya well as we've said before many times, all manufacturers have failures, but the numbers are a lot less versus those owners who've modded them poorly or fecked up running them properly.

I've yet to seen or read proper proof of a standard 2014> STi in the UK blowing up without mitigating issues, i.e run on the wrong fuel etc.

And don't say (again) that SC have had a few in, that isn't proper proof without knowing the history of each case.

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Old Apr 24, 2018 | 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by bioforger
Ya well as we've said before many times, all manufacturers have failures, but the numbers are a lot less versus those owners who've modded them poorly or fecked up running them properly.

I've yet to seen or read proper proof of a standard 2014> STi in the UK blowing up without mitigating issues, i.e run on the wrong fuel etc.

And don't say (again) that SC have had a few in, that isn't proper proof without knowing the history of each case.
why is it your the only one who ever argues about it? Do you work for subaru or something? cos your doing them proud in the damage control PR lol

although that said its all a tad irrelevant now given they dont make them any more.
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